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I have just been given a pot of bamboo (4 mtrs high) but he didn't know what type it is. But he thinks that it is a clumper.

How can I tell if it is P. nigra or B. lako or G. atro or D. asper var. Hitans or D. brandisii var. black?

It is compleatly pot bound -- there is no soil in it. I don't know how it lived, and in full sun too.

It has been in the pot for about 10 years with no maintaince with only a couple of roots out the bottom into the ground. Here are some clues to help you.

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Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

Posted

Definitely not dendrocalamus!!! I would bet it is B. lako. I doubt that it would be P. nigra, but I don't grow that one.... so not quite sure. I am actually quite surprise that it does so well in a pot.

Regards, Ari :)

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

Posted

Running bamboos have a "notch" in the culm that runs the length between the segments. It is hard to explain, and I have no "runners" to photograph. But if see a notch, as opposed to smooth all the way around, then it's a runner. Because of the color it is hard for me to see if there is this notch, but I think I see it. And it also appears as if it is trying to "run" out of it's pot already.

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Posted

But B. lako doesn't have as tight clumps as you say B. oldhamii, though Dean?? Although the fact that it does so well in pots, probably not bambusa at all. Oh well, just ignore me... I have no idea now...

Ari & Scott

Darwin, NT, Australia

-12°32'53" 131°10'20"

Posted
  On 2/4/2011 at 1:53 AM, Dypsisdean said:

Running bamboos have a "notch" in the culm that runs the length between the segments. It is hard to explain, and I have no "runners" to photograph. But if see a notch, as opposed to smooth all the way around, then it's a runner. Because of the color it is hard for me to see if there is this notch, but I think I see it. And it also appears as if it is trying to "run" out of it's pot already.

I thought that I could see a notch in a couple of places. Also where the root comes out the bottom it appears like a runner. A clumper has short fat roots. I think those at the top are new shoots not roots.

see this

http://www.floridabamboo.com/about.html

Darkman in Pensacola - Looking for cold hardy palms and plants that make Pensacola look tropical

Life - Some assembly required, Side effects frequently experienced, Mileage may vary, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong!

Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable!

Statistics - Opinions that analyst twist to support the insanity of those that pay them.

Posted
  On 2/4/2011 at 1:53 AM, Dypsisdean said:

Running bamboos have a "notch" in the culm that runs the length between the segments. It is hard to explain, and I have no "runners" to photograph. But if see a notch, as opposed to smooth all the way around, then it's a runner. Because of the color it is hard for me to see if there is this notch, but I think I see it. And it also appears as if it is trying to "run" out of it's pot already.

Nice to know, we have some green runners in the ground from the last person to live here, it shows up everywhere and come to think of it, it has a notch. My friend has some of the black on top of a concrete pad and has still found its way into the ground. Pretty, but hard to control.

Posted

Definitely a runner ..... see photo

I have B. Lako and Gigantochloa atroviolacea , they look nothing like it. post-4088-063997800 1296785594_thumb.jpg

Posted

Thanks Guys and Gal. Is this the notch you are talking about? :)

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Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

Posted

Yep - that be the (in)famous notch of the "runner".

Regards

Michael

Just north of Cairns, Australia....16 Deg S.
Tropical climate: from 19C to 34C.

Spending a lot of time in Manila, Philippines... 15 Deg N.
Tropical climate: from 24C to 35C.

Posted

Yep!

P nigra is my bet!

Darkman in Pensacola - Looking for cold hardy palms and plants that make Pensacola look tropical

Life - Some assembly required, Side effects frequently experienced, Mileage may vary, As is no warranty, Batteries not included, Instructions shipped separately and are frequently wrong!

Kentucky Bourbon - It may not solve the problem but it helps to make it tolerable!

Statistics - Opinions that analyst twist to support the insanity of those that pay them.

Posted
  On 2/4/2011 at 2:55 AM, Darkman said:

Yep!

P nigra is my bet!

Agreed...keep that one in a pot!

South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

Posted

There is a black bamboo like that I saw once in an older neighborhood in San Diego. It had "taken over" the entire city block. People had it coming up everywhere. And where some of the houses had tried to landscape, and had eradicated it within their lot, it was constantly trying to get back in. It was coming up out of every crack in the sidewalks and curb on all sides.

The only thing that contained it was the street surrounding the block. And even in a few cracks in the street you could see a few shoots. But it appeared as if 30-40 feet of street and traffic was an effective barrier. Because I didn't see it popping up across the street. But I didn't look that hard.:)

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Kona, on The Big Island
Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes

Posted
  On 2/4/2011 at 2:57 AM, Jonathan said:

  On 2/4/2011 at 2:55 AM, Darkman said:

Yep!

P nigra is my bet!

Agreed...keep that one in a pot!

I have to say it does look just like my neighbors Phyllostachys nigra. The reason I know it so well? Because it comes up all over my yard! :(

Glenn

Modesto, California

 

Sunset Zone 14   USDA 9b

 

Low Temp. 19F/-7C 12-20-1990         

 

High Temp. 111F/43C 07-23-2006

 

Annual Average Precipitation 13.12 inches/yr.

 

             

Posted

It does look attractive and healthy though for such a small pot. Seems like it would be absolutely beautiful if planted in a glazed pot as a specimen!

-Krishna

-Krishna

Kailua, Oahu HI. Near the beach but dry!

Still have a garden in Zone 9a Inland North Central Florida (Ocala)

Posted
  On 2/4/2011 at 4:08 AM, Dypsisdean said:

There is a black bamboo like that I saw once in an older neighborhood in San Diego. It had "taken over" the entire city block. People had it coming up everywhere. And where some of the houses had tried to landscape, and had eradicated it within their lot, it was constantly trying to get back in. It was coming up out of every crack in the sidewalks and curb on all sides.

The only thing that contained it was the street surrounding the block. And even in a few cracks in the street you could see a few shoots. But it appeared as if 30-40 feet of street and traffic was an effective barrier. Because I didn't see it popping up across the street. But I didn't look that hard.:)

Yes, the P nigra from my neighbors yard has taken over adjacent lots, especially those to the south. And there is no end in sight for those that "causually" maintain their landscapes. One to three times a year, I have to spend an entire afternoon digging it from my lot. It drives me nuts when people come to see my garden and their first comment is "that sure is a pretty bamboo your neighbor has."

Glenn

Modesto, California

 

Sunset Zone 14   USDA 9b

 

Low Temp. 19F/-7C 12-20-1990         

 

High Temp. 111F/43C 07-23-2006

 

Annual Average Precipitation 13.12 inches/yr.

 

             

Posted

Compared with clumpers, running bamboos have that unique charm and see-through effect with their well spaced culms. I was once visiting Dick's garden in Walnut Creek with a bunch of serious gardeners/horticulturalists. Unfortunately most of them were not very familiar with palms. So it is not a surprise that their favorite plant was the beautiful grove of Phyllostachys pubescens (Moso) out in front. I remember Dick also said that his bamboo gets more inquiry and comments than his palms from pedestrians.

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  On 2/4/2011 at 4:18 AM, ghar41 said:

Yes, the P nigra from my neighbors yard has taken over adjacent lots, especially those to the south. And there is no end in sight for those that "causually" maintain their landscapes. One to three times a year, I have to spend an entire afternoon digging it from my lot. It drives me nuts when people come to see my garden and their first comment is "that sure is a pretty bamboo your neighbor has."

Fragrant Hill Design

www.fragranthill.com

Mountain View, California

Posted

I've heard of the woman who was seated on her toilet and had a heart attack due to black bamboo growing up the pipe and touching her bottom. I kid thee not! Honest Injun too!

 

 

Posted
  On 2/4/2011 at 1:28 PM, Gonzer said:

I've heard of the woman who was seated on her toilet and had a heart attack due to black bamboo growing up the pipe and touching her bottom. I kid thee not! Honest Injun too!

There was a myth busters episode on using bamboo to torture people. The myth was that if you pin someone down to the ground laying on an emerging bamboo shoot, within a few days the bamboo will grow into the person's body. The myth was confirmed. The segment starts at 6:40.

Ron

Wellington, Florida

Zone 11 in my mind

Zone 10a 9a in reality

13miles West of the Atlantic in Palm Beach County

Posted
  On 2/4/2011 at 2:16 PM, rozpalm said:

  On 2/4/2011 at 1:28 PM, Gonzer said:

I've heard of the woman who was seated on her toilet and had a heart attack due to black bamboo growing up the pipe and touching her bottom. I kid thee not! Honest Injun too!

There was a myth busters episode on using bamboo to torture people. The myth was that if you pin someone down to the ground laying on an emerging bamboo shoot, within a few days the bamboo will grow into the person's body. The myth was confirmed. The segment starts at 6:40.

Woah! Thanks for sharing.

:) Jonathan

Jonathan

Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

Posted

P. nigra for sure. Don't let that loose unless you have a very dry garden.

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

you mean like the fugitive ?

Happy Gardening

Cheers,

Wal

Queensland, Australia.

Posted

exactly

Matt Bradford

"Manambe Lavaka"

Spring Valley, CA (8.5 miles inland from San Diego Bay)

10B on the hill (635 ft. elevation)

9B in the canyon (520 ft. elevation)

Posted

OK thanks guys, I'll tie her up real tight. But first I want to repot it into about 4 pots, and actually put some dirt in them for it to eat.

Can I literally just put the axe through it or saw it into quarters? That stuff is tough it is just solid roots.

Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

Posted

cut it into quarters....use handsaw as it will ruin a chainsaw.

The Palm Mahal

Hollywood Fla

Posted

Thats Phyllostachys nigra for sure! I have one planted in my Pyrgos Garden that i may unfortunately have to dig outsad.gif I bought it 2 years ago as a clumper but found out the hard way that its a runner as it popped 2 meters away just the following year!(didnt do enough research as i should before getting it) To be honest,i like the look and you can surely walk and have your whole garden for the fact under this bamboo,knocking down the shoots that come up in bad places during its single shooting season(for me its February) annually. I am a little afraid though that it may come up in tight spots or right next of below precious seedlings and annoy them,plus that it will be a lot of work a decade down the road...

Lets see where it will come up this yearunsure.gif

''To try,is to risk failure.......To not try,is to guarantee it''

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