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Posted

In north Florida.

Low of 21 F, 10 hours at freezing temps.

3 days of freezing temps.

No overhead protection.  Little or no frost.

No damage.

Small plants with a few character leaves in the ground.  Even smaller plants in 1 gal pots showed no damage as well.

Jason

Gainesville, Florida

  • 2 years later...
Posted

Low of 14F. 14 days straight of below freezing temps. Minor overhead protection. ~50 Plants in pots (3gal to 15gal) and in the ground had 50 to 100% leaf damage. 95% look like they will make it.

Jason

Gainesville, Florida

  • 8 months later...
Posted

One night 28F for two hours. Heavy frost.

Two nights 30F for five hours. Light frost.

I thought it was not a tender palm... :(

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I'm very surprised your palm got so much cold/frost damage. I have a Sabal domingensis that I planted three years ago when it was about the size of your palm. Mine has never been cold/frost damage. My palm is still small, maybe a 1.25 meters in overall height. As you know from my other postings, I've dropped down to almost 20 degrees F (-6.6C), with five other nights around -5C, and my Sabal domingensis looks fine. And BTW, it's planted in the open.

You palm looks like it will be fine. Perhaps has it gets larger it will be less prone to cold/frost damage.

Mad about palms

Posted

Rafael, probably your plant come from greenhouse coltivation.

Ciao

Giovanni

Noci (BA) Italia

350m a.s.l.

Zone 8b

Posted

Rafael my sabal domingensis and Livistonia nitida and sabal causarium have resisted to 28F/29F , no damage

GIUSEPPE

Posted

That´s kind of ridiculous, but i am thinking about protecting this palm from the next frost episodes...

Livistonia nitida and sabal causarium, no damage, but this one like this... :hmm:

I wouldn't be overly concerned. First, you palm is still very small (I don't know the history of it in terms of how long you've had it in the ground). Second, it's always colder closer to the ground. While you may have well recorded 28 degrees F (at what height and where in your yard), it may have been several degrees colder by your palm (at least if you had a radiational freeze, i.e., no/little wind and clear sky).

Still, you are correct in protecting it. I would at least put a heavy covering (made of cotton) over it.

While your sabal may not need this, on some small cold tender species of palms I place a plastic jug of hot water against the palm (then cover it) just before going to bed so the hot water will give it some heat for part of the night. This is mainly to protect the bud. Once all the heat transfers out of the jug, the water will have to freeze first before the palm stalk/bud will due to mineral salts in the palm (like ocean water freezes at a lower temperature than fresh water). One my African oil palm (on the coldest nights) I used two one gallon plastic jugs of hot water (one jug on opposite sides of the short emerging trunk) then I wrapped the trunk and jugs with a heavy mover's quilt. The next morning the water in the jugs was not frozen, so I can fairly assume the palm's bud wasn't cold damaged, at least to any great degree.

Mad about palms

Posted

Walt is right. Your plant will probably show less damage during similar conditions as it grows up from the ground. Also, S. domingensis do not like frost, especially when young. I think Merrill Wilcox related to me that while S. domingensis show cold damage at higher temps than S. causiarum, they will "survive" a hard freeze better.

I've had three 3ft'ers in the ground for the past 2 years and these have made it through temps into the mid teens (F), although with substantial leaf damage.

Jason

Gainesville, Florida

Posted

I have been growing S. domingensis here in Jax for the last 15 years --- I didnt have them in the ground in 1989 but they have seen 20 a bunch of times. Large trees now they get foliage damage but still pull through. I have the large S. maritima also --- it gets burnt but I have it in the woods.

I live about 70 miles northeast of Gainesville where Merrill lives so it is a bit milder (as it is more coastal)

Best regards

Ed

Posted

hello rafael!!

and your dypsis decipiens!!! does it take some frost without damage?

OLIVIER

Posted

Olivier, so far, my 3 dd are fine, without frost damage :)

it's a good news!!

To be continued ...!!

  • 1 year later...
Posted

Sabal domingensis in A 5g.

A dry 24f - no damage

Blake

  • 11 years later...
Posted

Second winter in the ground Sabal domingensis in Colington (Kill Devil Hills) NC.  Low of 18 degrees F and almost 2 days below freezing. It is in a cluster with other Sabals, and it is by far the largest.  Some browning on old leaves and leaf tips - but generally in good shape. Gardening glove for scale.

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Posted
16 hours ago, LeonardHolmes said:

Second winter in the ground Sabal domingensis in Colington (Kill Devil Hills) NC.  Low of 18 degrees F and almost 2 days below freezing. It is in a cluster with other Sabals, and it is by far the largest.  Some browning on old leaves and leaf tips - but generally in good shape. Gardening glove for scale.

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That's good news. I was never sure about domingensis' cold hardiness because of its tropical origin. But it appears to be close to causiarum. Another large Sabal that should be planted more often.

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Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

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Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

Posted

I did protect it minimally.  Spun polyester + a gallon jug with colored water for solar mass year 1.  Water jug and bottom half of a pop-up plant protector here year two.  It'll be too big for any of those soon.

Posted

Well not as far north as  @LeonardHolmes and not as cold, but here's mine grown from seed which saw lows of 25F last December with zero damage here in Jacksonville FL.

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  • 1 month later...
Posted
On 4/19/2023 at 6:08 PM, Scott W said:

Well not as far north as  @LeonardHolmes and not as cold, but here's mine grown from seed which saw lows of 25F last December with zero damage here in Jacksonville FL.

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Nice palm!  They really grow quickly

Mine is trying to get wider

 

 

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  • 1 year later...
Posted

live without even a single burn on the leaves,at  - 5.7 degrees celsius,in   january 2017

GIUSEPPE

Posted

live without even a single burn on the leaves,at  - 5.7 degrees celsius,in   january 2017

GIUSEPPE

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

Sabal Domingenisis faces west, growing inbetween two Sabal minors (North Carolina ecotype.) They grow in between two homes and garages, wind from north west creates a wind tunnel but it’s usually slightly sheltered in general. We had the snow and it stayed below freezing for many days at a time. The lowest we got during the cold snap was 17f in the day, 3f that night. Coldest, it was, recorded: 7f, 3f 5f 9f nighttime lows  I’d guess the daytimes were in between 17-26f It seems to be rougher than other years but remember the snow cover insulated the roots for a few weeks.  Here are 2 early fall pictures IMG_5008.thumb.jpeg.21ede7754454bf74365cabf0c903616d.jpegIMG_4922.thumb.jpeg.d6dfb05a4fe7082dc323a6678155bb0d.jpegNow here’s two photos I took 15 minutes ago:IMG_5522.thumb.jpeg.7360cd3ef4518041b6c37874eaeeaa6d.jpegIMG_5523.thumb.jpeg.235fd2d4fad4de3004edfeb6c4c352b2.jpeg
Thanks for reading !

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