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Hi all, here is another one I picked up the other day without a tag. Any ideas what it might be?

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Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

Dear Matt :)

Even i have one of those growing in a pot but it has not put a trunk structure yet..In my old threads some members did ID that cycad,but i cannot remember it.

its 10 years now in a decent sized pot,but no trunk formation yet.Very slow grower ! for my climate.

Love,

Kris :)

love conquers all..

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Matt.

Looks like a Cycas seemannii with the relatively clean rachis.

Used to also be known as "cycas sp. neocaledonica" though there is some discussion that it is different.

Bruce

Now living the life in Childers, Queensland.

Posted
Dear Matt :)

Even i have one of those growing in a pot but it has not put a trunk structure yet..In my old threads some members did ID that cycad,but i cannot remember it.

its 10 years now in a decent sized pot,but no trunk formation yet.Very slow grower ! for my climate.

Love,

Kris :)

Hi Kris,

Do you have any pictures of your Cycas? I would like to see it.

Take care,

Matt

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted
Matt.

Looks like a Cycas seemannii with the relatively clean rachis.

Used to also be known as "cycas sp. neocaledonica" though there is some discussion that it is different.

Bruce

Bruce,

Thank you for your help. I searched my Whitelock Cycad book but there is not a good picture of that one. The description does mention that it is distinctly revolute, which I believe accounts for the V shape of the leaflets on the rachis, is that correct?

Edit: I just found in the description that C. seemanii is spineless on the petiole, mine has spines.

Matt

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

Matt,

I am by no means an expert on Cycas, but I agree with Bruce on the C. seemannii ID. FYI, "revolute" has nothing to do with the orientation of the leaflets; rather, it refers to the margins of the leaflets rolling under as in C. revoluta. The V-shaped cross-section of the leaf is referred to as "keeled".

Jody

Posted
Matt,

I am by no means an expert on Cycas, but I agree with Bruce on the C. seemannii ID. FYI, "revolute" has nothing to do with the orientation of the leaflets; rather, it refers to the margins of the leaflets rolling under as in C. revoluta. The V-shaped cross-section of the leaf is referred to as "keeled".

Jody

Thank you Jody, I'm trying to get all this stuff down, I've had this one wrong for a long time then.

As far as the ID, Whitelock says seemanii is spineless on the petiole, mine has spines about a third to halfway down.

Matt

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

Posted

Hi Matt,

I'm over in Phoenix for the weekend and don't have much reference material here but this is as far as I can remember,

I think it was Ken Hill who lumped at the "South Pacific" Cycas under the old Cycas seemannii description which included plants from a number of Islands such as Fiji, Samoa, New Caledonia and Vanuatu, Some of these populations are variable with most of the seed which was available a few years ago coming from the New Caledonica location. The plants from this population have some spines such as yours.

The closest plants to the New Caledonica location are Cycas bougainvilleana from the Solomon Islands and they too can have either clean or armed petioles,

Bruce

Now living the life in Childers, Queensland.

Posted
As far as the ID, Whitelock says seemanii is spineless on the petiole, mine has spines about a third to halfway down.

Actually, Whitelock says: "[p]etiole... long, unarmed or rarely with a few short spines" -- which fits your plant.

Jody

Posted

Speaking of Whitelock's book, have you seen the prices requested on Amazon.com? Cherish your books and don't let them out of your sight!

It would be a very expensive replacement. You would rather spend the money on more cycads.

Best regards to all,

Ron.

Coral Gables, FL 8 miles North of Fairchild USDA Zone 10B

Posted
Speaking of Whitelock's book, have you seen the prices requested on Amazon.com? Cherish your books and don't let them out of your sight!

It would be a very expensive replacement. You would rather spend the money on more cycads.

Best regards to all,

Ron.

Yes, I've sold a couple on Amazon.com wish I had have picked a few more when they were selling for around $30.00 on Overstock.com

Last week I found one in Borders Books in Scottsdale, a shelf copy which I offered $25.00 for and got it.

Bruce

Now living the life in Childers, Queensland.

Posted

cycas id's are some of the hardest to make....there are just so many of them that look so very similar. ...one of the hardest plants to id IMHO.

Posted

Thank you gents, I appreciate all your help in ID'ing my Cycads and for sharing your knowledge.

Jody, I guess I keyed in on that one word "unarmed" and did not finish reading the rest. That will teach me :)

Matt

Matt in Temecula, CA

Hot and dry in the summer, cold with light frost in the winter. Halfway between the desert and ocean

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