Pandanus Utilis

[epicure3]

I originally put this in the Freeze section by mistake.

I was just wondering what experiences are.

Thanks

[rozpalm]

I have 100's of seedlings under my trees so I don't think there is much to growing them. Amazingly, when they grow in the grass you can be cut them just like the grass and the usually grow back just as fast. I did take one an put it in a pot and it seems to grow at a moderate rate.

Edit: Sorry, I just realized you were asking people in Ca.

[Gonzer]

It seems that my 3 year old/18" high plant did not take kindly to temperatures under 40 deg. Mush.

[epicure3]

It seems that my 3 year old/18" high plant did not take kindly to temperatures under 40 deg. Mush.

Did you have it in the ground? Did it do well the other couple of years?

[tropicalb]

It seems that my 3 year old/18" high plant did not take kindly to temperatures under 40 deg. Mush.

that's what i'm talking about.....i'm sure there were PLENTY of pandanas that turned to mush during the last FL freeze a few days back.

While the ones i have in 15 gal pots did not turn to mush, and are not dead (even after being outside but under canopy during the '07 freeze here in CA), they burned pretty badly, and it takes some time for them to start looking good again.

I will try and post some pics sometime today.

[DoomsDave]

The Freeze section is perfect, actually!

Mr. Freeze, my large P. utilis, did not like the temps in the upper 30s at night for weeks.

Not mush, but not happy, either. A pic is forthcoming, complete with Shoe . . . . .

[edric]

From what I've read, they are strictly 10a up, Ed

[tropicalb]

here are the pics as promised....like i said, they don't like the cold:

here are the stilts just forming:

[epicure3]

It seems that my 3 year old/18" high plant did not take kindly to temperatures under 40 deg. Mush.

that's what i'm talking about.....i'm sure there were PLENTY of pandanas that turned to mush during the last FL freeze a few days back.

While the ones i have in 15 gal pots did not turn to mush, and are not dead (even after being outside but under canopy during the '07 freeze here in CA), they burned pretty badly, and it takes some time for them to start looking good again.

I will try and post some pics sometime today.

They really don't look as bad as I was expecting.

[Hollywood Palms]

Anyone have a sources here in SoCal?

David

[Gonzer]

Epi, mine was potted in a 10" pot and already had 4 'little finger' sized stilts. Actually toppled over after one night, and I KNOW it did not get below 39°.

[DoomsDave]

I present to you:

Mr. Freeze, my P. utilis. NOT looking good, but will survive.

[Gonzer]

Davey lad, for some reason that's a spooky lookin' plant. Has that Halloweeny look.

[BS Man about Palms]

Question: Is there any difference between utilis and madagascarensis? I have a "green" one and one with the "red edge", both look fine and regularly see 34-35F. The bigger one did see 28F at my place in Jan 07 and it DID NOT like that.

[epicure3]

Question: Is there any difference between utilis and madagascarensis? I have a "green" one and one with the "red edge", both look fine and regularly see 34-35F. The bigger one did see 28F at my place in Jan 07 and it DID NOT like that.

I think the red margined one is Utilis.

[tropicalb]

Question: Is there any difference between utilis and madagascarensis? I have a "green" one and one with the "red edge", both look fine and regularly see 34-35F. The bigger one did see 28F at my place in Jan 07 and it DID NOT like that.

I think the red margined one is Utilis.

and you would be correct sir!

[DoomsDave]

Question: Is there any difference between utilis and madagascarensis? I have a "green" one and one with the "red edge", both look fine and regularly see 34-35F. The bigger one did see 28F at my place in Jan 07 and it DID NOT like that.

There most definitely is.

I have a madagascarensis, and it's clean, green and the coolest plant I've ever seen, no sign of damage at all. Much slower growing, but grows multiple heads.

Pics coming. . . . .

[Donald Sanders]

I grew Pandanus for many years in S. Cal. The Pandanus family is huge and not really studied in detail. I germinated seed I collected in Florida, the one with red margins. It did very well and the cold did not bother it. I collected Pandanus utilis here in Hawaii, at least I think it was utilis, sprouted many and tried them various ways when I lived in S. Cal. They do not like cold and look terrible after a cold winter in S. Cal. I planted mine in protected locations, filtered sun, bright open shade. Good to note that Pandanus does not like to dry out completely and during heat waves I kept them wet. 20 years ago when I lived in S. Cal, I knew of several old pandanus growing beautiful for many years. Pandanus vietchii does well, it's varigated and for years there was a beautiful one at LOTUSLAND. I never lost any to cold but I only put them out when they were a decent size like I would with a delicate palm. There are many pandanus from cool mountain regions like New Guinea and Madagascar and should be beautiful in cool climates. When the late Ron Harris was the curator of the Palm Garden at the Huntingtion,(20 years ago) he recieved some interesting Pandanus seeds from a collector, species unidentified. We germinated and planted them in deep shade, very protected in the jungle garden. Last I heard from a friend they were huge and beautiful. With Ron I planted many things in the Huntington and someday when I return to LA I hope to visit the garden and my plants.

Today, I still collect Pandanus and I am always in awe around the huge stands of native pandanus on the island. It is very unusual to find other who are interested in Pandanus even here in Hawaii. I only have about 6 species and I know that there are so many yet to be introduced to cultivation. If anyone finds a source for Pandanus please pass it on to me.

Good luch with Pandanus in S. Cal. It is a beautiful family of plants that deserves a lot more attention.

[epicure3]

I grew Pandanus for many years in S. Cal. The Pandanus family is huge and not really studied in detail. I germinated seed I collected in Florida, the one with red margins. It did very well and the cold did not bother it. I collected Pandanus utilis here in Hawaii, at least I think it was utilis, sprouted many and tried them various ways when I lived in S. Cal. They do not like cold and look terrible after a cold winter in S. Cal. I planted mine in protected locations, filtered sun, bright open shade. Good to note that Pandanus does not like to dry out completely and during heat waves I kept them wet. 20 years ago when I lived in S. Cal, I knew of several old pandanus growing beautiful for many years. Pandanus vietchii does well, it's varigated and for years there was a beautiful one at LOTUSLAND. I never lost any to cold but I only put them out when they were a decent size like I would with a delicate palm. There are many pandanus from cool mountain regions like New Guinea and Madagascar and should be beautiful in cool climates. When the late Ron Harris was the curator of the Palm Garden at the Huntingtion,(20 years ago) he recieved some interesting Pandanus seeds from a collector, species unidentified. We germinated and planted them in deep shade, very protected in the jungle garden. Last I heard from a friend they were huge and beautiful. With Ron I planted many things in the Huntington and someday when I return to LA I hope to visit the garden and my plants.

Today, I still collect Pandanus and I am always in awe around the huge stands of native pandanus on the island. It is very unusual to find other who are interested in Pandanus even here in Hawaii. I only have about 6 species and I know that there are so many yet to be introduced to cultivation. If anyone finds a source for Pandanus please pass it on to me.

Good luch with Pandanus in S. Cal. It is a beautiful family of plants that deserves a lot more attention.

Very helpful observations Donald. I believe that the hardiest veitchia most commonly seen in cultivation is the P. Furcatus which comes from a mountainous region in some far away land that I don't remember.

[BS Man about Palms]

Question: Is there any difference between utilis and madagascarensis? I have a "green" one and one with the "red edge", both look fine and regularly see 34-35F. The bigger one did see 28F at my place in Jan 07 and it DID NOT like that.

I think the red margined one is Utilis.

and you would be correct sir!

So thats what your pop gave me? Thanks again!

[Jeff in St Pete]

Has anyone tried this Pandanus in California? I posted these photos before and I believe it was identified as (most likely) P. dubius. I might be able to get a few seeds from this one later this year if anyone is interested in trying it.

And with a person for scale

[BS Man about Palms]

Has anyone tried this Pandanus in California? I posted these photos before and I believe it was identified as (most likely) P. dubius. I might be able to get a few seeds from this one later this year if anyone is interested in trying it.

And with a person for scale

If I get some seeds from you, will my results be dubious?

[epicure3]

Has anyone tried this Pandanus in California? I posted these photos before and I believe it was identified as (most likely) P. dubius. I might be able to get a few seeds from this one later this year if anyone is interested in trying it.

And with a person for scale

If I get some seeds from you, will my results be dubious?

Good luck with that, Bill. LOL

[tropicalb]

Question: Is there any difference between utilis and madagascarensis? I have a "green" one and one with the "red edge", both look fine and regularly see 34-35F. The bigger one did see 28F at my place in Jan 07 and it DID NOT like that.

I think the red margined one is Utilis.

and you would be correct sir!

So thats what your pop gave me? Thanks again!

you are welcome mr. bill....SCORE!

[rozpalm]

Jeff that is a really nice looking Pandanus. Aren't they dioecious? Do you have both sexes near by?

[DoomsDave]

Hm.

Today, the ugly . . . .

Tomorrow, the Chain Saw . . . . .

RNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN. . . .. etc

[Jeff in St Pete]

Jeff that is a really nice looking Pandanus. Aren't they dioecious? Do you have both sexes near by?

Hi Ron, yes they are dioecious. There are three of them in this particular location so hopefully both sexes are growing there.

These Pandanus have very wide, thick leaves and I thought they might be able to tolerate some cooler temps, but I admit I don't know much about this species.

[DoomsDave]

Hm.

Today, the ugly . . . .

Tomorrow, the Chain Saw . . . . .

RNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN. . . .. etc

No chain saw, instead the machete, knuckles dragging on the ground . . .. .