DoomsDave 10,022 Report post Posted January 28, 2007 Howdyall: I've found the information in this particular series of threads useful. I suggest we keep it up for, say, six months so we can report on recovery of frozen plants? That's useful, too. How about it Dean? dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PALM MOD 585 Report post Posted January 28, 2007 Dave, My thoughts on this "project" are as follows: As mentioned, there are several references already in existence regarding cold hardiness. Geoff's is excellent, and he has been kind enough to contribute here as well. Someone mentioned that Larry Noblick had/has one too. And a few others. This is after all a forum, a continuum of thoughts and experiences. It is what we do best. I am all for just letting it continue as is. It is not perfect, but it contains a lot of valuable real time info that a data base can never capture. If someone wants hardiness info on a species, it is here. However, a data base is also a necessary tool. But aside from being a tremendous amount of work, I think it would be better suited to what will become the research area of the new IPS sebsite. I will lobby, and perhaps you all can as well, to establish such a data base on the new website. Maybe Geoff and Larry, or some volunteers from here, could integrate all this new info with the existing. I think it could be a valuable asset for the IPS. In the meantime, I'm all for letting our format continue and evolve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter John 219 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 Hi Deano or anyone else, was a summary ever done, you know, listing the best survivors versus the worst ? Top ten style could be interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVE IN SO CAL 15 Report post Posted May 15, 2007 I have a rather extensive amount of info to add, but I'm still finding new damage after 5 months (eg starting to pull spears on some Phoenix palms)...I'll start putting in some stuff this week, hopefully. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,495 Report post Posted May 16, 2007 Yep- I'm still all over the map. I'm still pulling spears on palms I thought had made it and seeing life in a few I thought were gone! (or close too) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cymbids 0 Report post Posted July 6, 2007 Hello all, I am newly registered to this forum but many years in No. SD County, CA. In36+ years have not experienced such a prolonged period of below freezing temperatures (both hours/day and days total) as the Jan, 2007 event. Pretty hit or miss on damage and/or losses.......small Bismarckia nobilis (20" box) in a low spot = dead/total loss. Large Veitchia McDanielsii (~20ft) planted higher elevation close to building, minor leaf burn but thriving...along with some plumerias. 1 gal Bismarckia (under cover) doing fine. Red gingers, Indonesian Wax Gingers under cover but no heat = dead. Alexander palms (23 year olds in ground) are fine. I know microclimates were very important since the damage occurred in zonal formations with cold air drainage zones the worst. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madagascarbob 3 Report post Posted July 7, 2007 I hate to say it but now is the time some palms will be dying that didnt die strait away ,looks like I'm loosing my Burretiokentia koghiensis ,its mature and flowering 4 feet of trunk ,the last leaf that opened died in a month after opening ,the new spear is only out a foot and opening and the crown is getting soft.Dypsis lasteliana (just forming trunk ) is doing the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BS Man about Palms 2,495 Report post Posted July 7, 2007 MAJOR bummer Bob! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osideterry 95 Report post Posted July 8, 2007 Sorry about those two MB. I take it your Burretiokentia hapala and Dypsis leptocheilos are still okay? It's a good thing having hardier types as well. I just "popped" the crownshaft off my A. alexandra with a simple twist of the wrist. No spear movement since February. It had 3ft of trunk. My 3 Kentias still can't produce a normal spear. Each leaf is brown-tipped and comes out partially open and rubbery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madagascarbob 3 Report post Posted July 8, 2007 Thanks Bs and OST the hapala is doing fine just put out a huge infloresence and the teddy is recovering.I just peeled off the sheath on the koghiensis and it looked more solid heres hoping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madagascarbob 3 Report post Posted July 10, 2007 Update on koghiensis ,it's toast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epicure3 95 Report post Posted July 10, 2007 Sorry, Bob. That's horrible. The good news, if there is any, is that now you can plant something else if you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madagascarbob 3 Report post Posted July 10, 2007 Or make a tiki ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
epicure3 95 Report post Posted July 11, 2007 (madagascarbob @ Jul. 10 2007,18:34)QUOTEOr make a tiki ! Sure. Only after an acceptable period of mourning, of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walter John 219 Report post Posted August 13, 2007 Any chance of update reports and pics ? Wins versus losses etc. This is when it is really helpful to us all, after 8 months have passed, all the verdicts should be handed down by now. Thanks in advance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STEVE IN SO CAL 15 Report post Posted August 13, 2007 Wal...you're right. I have lots of winners and losers...just no time now with the mother of all remodels going on...soon, grasshopper...soon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
John in Andalucia 636 Report post Posted April 1, 2008 Here's a link providing some interesting freeze-damage data for cold-hardy palms. The tests were conducted by a nursery in the U.K. UK Hardy Palm Trial Results John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites