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Looking for some cultivar recommendations for New Zealand flax and internet sources for purchase.  I need two or three colors that will work in full sun in my zone.  Where I'm putting them, they can't get giant, maybe 4' wide and tall max.  Blacks and purples would be bonus.

Ideas?

Thanks,

Steve

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fastfeat

Steve--

Don't know how well these will do in the rain/humidity (and clay soils?) of your area. Hopefully someone is growing them successfully.

Lots of cool colors, dwarf forms are available in CA. I suggest looking for growers there.

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iwan

Steve,

I have had bad luck and have given up on growing Phormium here in full sun in our hot/dry summers.  They look like crap and then decline and die.  Not sure if I am doing something wrong, but they don't that great in commercial landscapes if they are in full sun either.

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steve 9atx

I had 65 1/2" of rain last year.  Would this turn them into mush?  Even in a raised bed?

Steve

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LJG

Steve, I think Ken pointed out the toughest thing - rain/humidity. Just rain is fine. I have about ten cultivars in my garden and I have never lost one. They are planted in a tropical garden so I gets waters daily in summer. But in winter I cut WAY back. So rain is not the issue if the drainage is good. The humidity may be trouble.

As far as cultivars, there are tons. More every year. I am lucky in that my local nursery's buy from Monrovia Growers and San Marcos Growers which have a lot of selection. Some standard and some crazy. See Phormium 'Evening Glow' that Monrovia has.

http://www.monrovia.com/PlantIn....tart=11

http://www.smgrowers.com/search....11&y=13

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Mats

(steve 9atx @ Feb. 28 2008,20:12)

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Looking for some cultivar recommendations for New Zealand flax and internet sources for purchase.  I need two or three colors that will work in full sun in my zone.  Where I'm putting them, they can't get giant, maybe 4' wide and tall max.  Blacks and purples would be bonus.
4' tall black or purple?  I would suggest Platt's Black.  It's stable and doesn't fade.  Here are some links - Platt's Black and Platt's Black 2

Another good one close to the color you want is Dark Delight.  But it might not like the heat in So. Texas.

Suncrest says: 'Dark Delight’. This is the latest sensation among phormium lovers. It is less rampant than most, slowly increasing from a narrow base. The leaves are up to 3’ (or more??) long and colored a uniform, vivid reddish purple.  

Dark Delight and Dark Delight 2

Here's some good general info - Phormium Info and Cultivars

Len is right - the rain isn't going to be a problem if they are in a raised bed and you give them good drainage.  The humidity might be your main problem.

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fastfeat

I just checked Fairchild's list of living plants, and no Phormium. While Miami isn't Galveston, it's climate is closer to yours than is SoCal's. So I'm guessing it'll be a tough plant for you, Steve.

Maybe Eric is growing some at Leu Gardens in Orlando and can offer input.

Seems to me I remember seeing some in Austin and San Antonio, where, obviously, conditions are different than your area. But you may be able to pick some up or at least see some (relatively) close by.

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Eric in Orlando

We have tried several cultivars here with no luck, they croak half way through summer. I think what gets them is the high night temperatures. So far our best substitute for it is Dianella tasmanica, Flax Lily. The striped form 'Variegata' has become very common in the last few years. They get 2-3ft tall. There is also a gold striped form called 'Gold Stripe' I have never seen the all green form sold. Some other Dianella species/cultivars are becoming available now.

D. tasmanica 'Variegata'

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D. tasmanica 'Gold Stripe'

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D. revoluta 'Little Rev'

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steve 9atx

Thanks, Eric.  Our climates are similar enought that if you can't grow them, I wouldn't be able to either.  Nice substitue, though, and the little flowers are bonus.

Steve

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Mats

Steve, I've been using THESE a lot the last 2 years with good success.  They have great color and stay under 3'.  We have large homes on small lots here in So. O.C. and many of the phormiums get too large for the spaces I'm trying to fill.  Here are two links - Festival Grass and 'Festival Grass' Cordyline

They like good drainage but that shouldn't be a problem in your raised bed with a little amending.

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