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[Frog]

Hello to you all, a new young on the site. To begin, I appear. I live in France and I am a lover of palm trees and cycads. I live in zone 8a and I try to acclimatize diverse tropical plants to my zone of rustic character .Sorry for my English which is very approximate.

I have small one concerns of identification has to subject you. I bought a cycad in Paris region which I do not manage to identify. Could use me to give him a Christian name?

Thank you in advance for your help

Edited November 23, 2008 by Frog

[Gbarce]

looks like a Dioon, not sure of the exact species though

[Frog]

Hello Gbarce, I had thought of Dioon purpusii for the shape of the foliage but the maroon sleeping bag which is on the rachis isn't present on this species.

here a photograph of the end of the foliage

[BS Man about Palms]

Welcome umm, Frog?

It actually looks like a Cycas to me, not sure which one. It looks to have "altered" some identifying traits due to where it was grown. Primarilly the "midrib" on the leaf makes it appear to be a Cycas.

[Kris]

Hai to me it looks like a Dioon edule click that link to see a nice grown D.Edule.

hope your doubts are cleared by pros of this field like Jody,Bruce...

And welcome to Palmtalk !

lots of love to you,

Kris

[Frog]

Hello with you all, thank you for your reception.

On the level of the caudex and the shape of the foliage, it is true that it resembles Dioon Edule. I compared with the seedlings that i have in the patio and, it is in any similar point except a detail: the rachis are covered with a kind of fine maroon sleeping bag which is not present on Dioon edule

[BS Man about Palms]

Frog-

Take a picture of the under side of the leaves. That should show its a Cycas. I agree from a far shot that it looks like a Dioon, but the leaves don't support the Dioon ID.

[virtualpalm]

This is definitely a species of Cycas. No Dioon has midribs on the leaflets or red tomentum. Not being a Cycas expert, however, I really don't have a guess as to the species.

Jody

[tropicalb]

i've done some pretty comprehensive searches, and i'm still stumped as to what that plant is.....

i'm gonna figure it out one way or another though.

[eastern.nurseries]

It is a Cycas taitungensis grown under heavy shade. The colouration and flat pinnae give it away.

[Cycadcenter]

Not to sure it's a taitungensis which very rarely produce pups and it just doesn't look right.

It does however look very much like a Cycas ferruginea which I have seen in China with the characteristic dark reddy brown tomentum on the petioles and it looks like there was the same tomentum on the leaflets. Ferruginea is from both Vietnam and Chine and large quantities of cycas plants were shipped to Europe several years ago and could have included that species.

Bruce

[eastern.nurseries]

Bruce, The plants I have grown from Stans' seed are the same, suckers and all

[Cycadcenter]

Jon,

That's interesting cause I've never had a taitugensis produce pups, we have a couple of thousand in the ground back in California ( Stan's seed) from 8-12 year's old and have just a couple which double headed from the start.

We don't have any in the ground yet up at Childers just a few hundred seedlings coming on.

I wonder if it is environmental as California is only about 10" of rain in a good year.

Bruce

[virtualpalm]

Bruce, my initial thought on this plant was C. ferruginea as well. I also have not seen C. taitungensis with that color of tomentum or that overall look to the leaflets and leaves. If it were my plant, I would be hesitant to label it C. taitungensis.

Jody

[tropicalb]

Jody....

The only image I could find of C. ferruginea does not seem to match that plant, and in it's description, the only characteristic that seems to match the above posted image is:

abundant deep red tomentum on new growth and persisting to some extent on the older leaves,

and the fact that the leaves are slightly keeled.

[BigFrond]

I don't know what it is but it's very nice looking. The only cycas that I own is cycas revoluta.

[cycadjungle]

Personally, I go along the same lines as Bruce on this one. Taitungensis has brownish orange fur around the apex, but have never seen hairs go that far up the leaf stalk. Also, the stems are a pretty good orange to red color and the color of this stem is way off the color of taitungensis. Way too light in color. Whatever it is, it is not an ordinary cycas. If it is not the one he mentions, it is something from Asia that most of us have not seen and needs more looking at. Anything close to that in Roy's book by any chance? The fur on the leaf stalk almost looks like some angulatas when they first come out. Bruce, anything in Australia come close to that?

[Frog]

Hello with you all, large a thank you for help that you bring to me. Here some additional photographs.

Edited November 27, 2008 by Frog

[Frog]

[tropicalb]

could it possibly be Cycas sp. nova meeldijk????

thoughts anyone?

[MAUSER]

This Cyca is a friend and was very much like another. Is bought in Spain.

I think this may be the variety Simplicipinna

Looking at the color, I do not think that can be "ferruginea".

A greeting

[Frog]

Hello to you all, I exploited the track that Bruce had found for Cycas ferruginae and I found an article on Cycas dolychophilla who well seems to correspond has our beautiful stranger.

Here is the link of the article as well as a photo found on garden Dave. Of what think of it you?

http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/...s+dolichophylla

http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr...%3DN%26pwst%3D1

Edited November 29, 2008 by Frog