The cold hardy palm forum is a community where, by definition, people discuss how palms interact with cold weather events. Its is also a place where, as a community, we can come together and complain about these dreadful events that keep happening. That is what these threads are mostly about. In fact, I think for its frequenters, threads like these are among the most essential for the Cold Hardy palm community!  Moving them to a forum down the list called 'Weather' seems potentially mislead