Everybody ok?

November 20

I think the problem of the original topic is spot on in @Merlyn’s first post. And a likely solution in his fourth post.

I have also noticed the palmtalk in Reddit being more active in the last weeks which I would have never thought to happen!

November 20

7 minutes ago, iko. said:

I think the problem of the original topic is spot on in @Merlyn’s first post. And a likely solution in his fourth post.

I have also noticed the palmtalk in Reddit being more active in the last weeks which I would have never thought to happen!

I noticed that also!

November 20

9 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

I actually met 3 girlfriends on there. I mean, in retrospect I'm not so sure that's a good thing since it seems my biggest turn on is red flags, but I at least had some fun.

Years ago, I took the " meet some woman I talked to online " plunge to entertain a theory regarding the subject. ..compared to meeting in person. Which I always do.

Answer to my question couldn't have been more obvious as soon as we sat down for dinner.

Enthusiastically headed for the door shortly afterwards, leaving that bag of blaring red flags behind, lol.

" Fun " she offered as I ran wouldn't be worth the torture.

Not into drama and self depreciation/ esteem related issues. That's 6th grader level maturity. 👍

November 20

10 hours ago, Jonathan Haycock said:

I’ve tried the “ignored user” function, but it’s frankly useless. All it does is hide the content of the individuals post, not remove it from your feed altogether, so the same issue remains with threads being smothered into oblivion before anyone gets a chance to see them.

The beauty of Facebook groups is one can block an individual if required, which ensures you don’t see their posts nor visa versa. Wonder if something similar could be implemented on PalmTalk?

Agree with some of this.. personally find that the ignore function works as intended, but it would be nice if the ignored person couldn't see your posts too.

Honestly don't care about who post what or how often.. it's a forum.

if they're content is void of anything enlightening, self centered / serving, or an absolute whine fest, I just move on.

..and chuckle a bit sometimes.

November 20

1 hour ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Agree with some of this.. personally find that the ignore function works as intended, but it would be nice if the ignored person couldn't see your posts too.

Honestly don't care about who post what or how often.. it's a forum.

if they're content is void of anything enlightening, self centered / serving, or an absolute whine fest, I just move on.

..and chuckle a bit sometimes.

The last thing I want to do is alienate a fellow member, especially one that is clearly bat sh*t crazy about palms. However, I believe the excessive number of repetitive threads are putting other folks off engaging in this forum (myself included). I get the point about scrolling on, but why would someone go to the effort of putting together a thread only to see it smothered into oblivion literally hours later, never to be seen again.

I feel restricting the number of threads is too heavy handed. A more subtle approach would be to give the individual the choice of who they want to see posts from and who gets to see their posts, which is exactly how Facebook groups work. This enables the user to tailor PalmTalk to their specific tastes without affecting the general feel of the forum.

The “Ignored User” function doesn’t go far enough IMO as it still shows you the thread and response, just not the content, but with an option to view it.

November 20

5 minutes ago, Jonathan Haycock said:

The last thing I want to do is alienate a fellow member, especially one that is clearly bat sh*t crazy about palms. However, I believe the excessive number of repetitive threads are putting other folks off engaging in this forum (myself included).

I feel restricting the number of threads is too heavy handed. A more subtle approach would be to give the individual the choice of who they want to see posts from and who gets to see their posts, which is exactly how Facebook groups work. The “Ignored User” function doesn’t go far enough IMO as it still shows you the thread and response, just not the content, but with an option to view it.

the " give said person(s) an option " thought is worth kicking around.

That said, it's a double edged sword too.

..sometimes you want the option of responding to a post, even if 99% of said posters content is otherwise ignored.

November 20

17 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

the " give said person(s) an option " thought is worth kicking around.

That said, it's a double edged sword too.

..sometimes you want the option of responding to a post, even if 99% of said posters content is otherwise ignored.

Freedom of choice. No one is wrong here, it’s just matters of opinion, so why not offer a little flexibility to accommodate that?

Some folks are clearly happy with the status quo, others feel the “Ignored User” is sufficient, the remaining may wish to utilise a “block user” function where you literally will not see anything said user posts and vice versa. Why not have all options available?

November 20

1 hour ago, Jonathan Haycock said:

Freedom of choice. No one is wrong here, it’s just matters of opinion, so why not offer a little flexibility to accommodate that?

Some folks are clearly happy with the status quo, others feel the “Ignored User” is sufficient, the remaining may wish to utilise a “block user” function where you literally will not see anything said user posts and vice versa. Why not have all options available?

If we accommodate one request, there are many ( many ) others waiting in the wings that are just as worthy of accommodating.

It is one's freedom of choice to look at a post or thread they might find annoying.

Ain't no one holding a firearm to one's head saying " look at it " lol

November 20

I love this forum, I don't like facebook so I'm glad to have this place when I'm wanting to look at palms and research and learn new stuff.

November 20

I absolutely did not intend for this thread to go the direction it has, I just noticed a big dropoff from regulars and I know people run into life issues, health problems, etc etc and I get what y'all are saying and it's - I don't know to approach it since it's really obvious who everyone is talking about and yet nobody has said a name and he's clearly very passionate and very proud of everything he's doing and wants to show off some amazing foliage, the most of which I'll never get to see in person let alone grow. But also speaking from personal experience, if everything gets pushed into one big long thread it seems to go unnoticed as well. I'm not crying for attention or anything, I mean I'd love some feedback and input on what I've done over the last 2 or 3 months as I've definitely ramped everything up exponentially and am starting a legitimate licensed nursery and it'd be great to get a pat on the back or even better, tell me what I'm doing wrong. But with the disappearance of Ricky Bobby, I don't think anybody else has more than a handful of indoor potted plants and like 3 people regularly look at the Palms in Pots thread anyway. I also know I write really long posts and lots of people are just here for pretty pictures and a bunch of lumber and seedlings doesn't have the same Instagram flex...

But maybe like instead of everyone leaving or lurking, maybe someone should speak up in a polite way. I mean, I think it'd be a horrible tragedy to let this community decline the way it is over this and I also feel really bad because like, my intentions were just like, checking up on everyone and it seems like it's an annoyance at a sea of posts from one person whose name still hasn't been mentioned when a simple "hey man, how about a garden thread and a greenhouse thread?" intervention would be a harmless resolution - lol but to contradict myself, having a single thread is a great way to go unnoticed too. I don't know.

November 20

I've been quiet, but I do lurk. The facebook groups are easy to post on, but they lack the breadth of relationships, knowledge and expertise you get here. Usually when I post on fb, I get a handful of likes and a few emoji reactions. It's a lot more intimate and personal here

November 20

5 minutes ago, Josue Diaz said:

I've been quiet, but I do lurk. The facebook groups are easy to post on, but they lack the breadth of relationships, knowledge and expertise you get here. Usually when I post on fb, I get a handful of likes and a few emoji reactions. It's a lot more intimate and personal here

Hmm, One of the things I like about the Facebook page is the number of reactions and comments I get from most of my posts there. I love this forum and its “family” feel but, as many have noted, a lot of the “family” seems to have moved on but I see some of them occasionally posting on Facebook.

November 20

2 minutes ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

Hmm, One of the things I like about the Facebook page is the number of reactions and comments I get from most of my posts there. I love this forum and its “family” feel but, as many have noted, a lot of the “family” seems to have moved on but I see some of them occasionally posting on Facebook.

Only thing I can add is WOW those three are killer plants. Especially the hedyscepe!

November 20

56 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

But maybe like instead of everyone leaving or lurking, maybe someone should speak up in a polite way. I mean, I think it'd be a horrible tragedy to let this community decline the way it is over this and I also feel really bad because like, my intentions were just like, checking up on everyone and it seems like it's an annoyance at a sea of posts from one person whose name still hasn't been mentioned when a simple "hey man, how about a garden thread and a greenhouse thread?" intervention would be a harmless resolution - lol but to contradict myself, having a single thread is a great way to go unnoticed too. I don't know.

This topic has already been discussed several times in previous threads. I have tried to locate those discussions, but the search function on this website is now almost useless exactly because of the volume of those posts. I was only able to find two relevant threads, which I have included below.

Your idea is great, and as you will see from these past discussions, it has been suggested before but has not gained much traction. I think the enthusiasm and experience are very much appreciated, but given that there are more users involved, it would be polite to maintain tidy and organised personal posts for better clarity.

November 20

I just gave a broad perspective on what my friends are talking about.

November 20

22 minutes ago, iko. said:

This topic has already been discussed several times in previous threads. I have tried to locate those discussions, but the search function on this website is now almost useless exactly because of the volume of those posts. I was only able to find two relevant threads, which I have included below.

Using Palmtalk as your personal Instagram or blog

@happypalms - your number of postings

Your idea is great, and as you will see from these past discussions, it has been suggested before but has not gained much traction. I think the enthusiasm and experience are very much appreciated, but given that there are more users involved, it would be polite to maintain tidy and organised personal posts for better clarity.

I don't have any answers and I was unaware that this was brought up last year. I mean, I do talk about personal stuff on here but 90+% of my content is all in one thread in the potted palms subforum which has like 8 visitors a month, 6 of which are me. But I was just trying to do a homey check and not start a dogpile so I maintain my innocence and don't know where to go from there.

November 20

5 minutes ago, Hu Palmeras said:

I just gave a broad perspective on what my friends are talking about.

They aren't friends they are faces on a screen ..Unless you grew up together. Holy heck kid, lol

November 21

You have a good sense of humor, Mr. Silas. But even so, I want to learn how to be your friend, even if it's just through a screen. Teach me how to be your friend. I've already added you and I follow you on your PalmTalk profile. Thank you, my lord.

November 21

I wish I had something to post but not really. I've been trying to carefully select and find cold hardy species for my zone lately, but they are difficult to find in my country. I already found Bactris mexicana seeds, (I will fill my garden with this species when they germinate for screening). Everything has slowed down too due to the "colder" weather.

The most interesting palm related event lately is that my biggest Sabal yapa is now pushing fan shaped fronds finally.

November 21

I appreciate you both, Nathan Silas_Sancona and Hugo Hu Palmeras.
I agree that we are plant lovers, people who share the same hobby and enjoy it immensely. People who are willing to learn from each other and people who, by planting various exotic plants and palm trees, help the earth to continue producing healthy air and thus keep the whole cycle going. The definition of a friend can mean many things. A person who helps me, no matter in what way. A person who listens to me and gives me advice or just listens. On this platform, this happens automatically. Everyone can grow this way, and we (including Sabine) are grateful to be a part of it all.
Tomorrow, on a personal note, I'm helping Otto, my childhood friend, move house. Although I'm not exactly the strongest man when it comes to lifting heavy loads, he knows he can count on me, on my tenacity and endurance to get him to his goal and get everything done. This is a personal friendship that takes place locally.

Regarding the point about too many posts, I can only say that if something doesn't interest me at the moment or I'm busy, I'll just read it later or skip it. Regarding the point about too many repetitions, my goodness, life consists of repetitions, but I only learn to perfect something through repetition, so it rarely bores me, except when I'm in a bad mood or just tired.
Regarding Facebook, I was hacked several times. Then we wanted to celebrate a reunion with 40 people, with a barbecue, food for everyone, and wonderful salad buffets, with Mediterranean food, for vegans, vegetarians, and others, something for every taste, with some old friends from the past. Many didn't even bother to cancel, and in the end there were 12 of us. Some wanted money from Otto afterwards—and this is absolutely no joke—and those were all Facebook friends at the time. That's why this is a closed chapter for me, which doesn't mean it shouldn't be right for someone else. I'd had enough. We took the leftover food to the homeless—Otto's idea.

I appreciate everyone's efforts here; you can't praise them enough.
So, now I've said what I think, and I hope I haven't offended or attacked anyone...

November 21

17 hours ago, Josue Diaz said:

I've been quiet, but I do lurk. The facebook groups are easy to post on, but they lack the breadth of relationships, knowledge and expertise you get here. Usually when I post on fb, I get a handful of likes and a few emoji reactions. It's a lot more intimate and personal here

🤗

November 21

On 11/19/2025 at 9:30 PM, UK_Palms said:

I have not long come out of jail, hence my lack of posting. I occasionally managed to post via a 'burner' phone from the inside.

Anyway, it is important that I do not criticise the UK government anymore. 👍

Welcome back, Ben. Good to have you back outside.

If the authorities learn and those they represent also learn from strong criticism from various people, then there would be or is a way out of the rigid system.
Just making nice promises will not work in the long run. Results and facts are needed, and we believe that these people represent the wishes and rights of the people with ethics, not with intimidation, imprisonment, or violence.
Furthermore, every person, regardless of their level of education, will eventually realize that they are being oppressed and mistreated.

November 21

Thank you, gentlemen. We are growers of beautiful palm trees, and they are ours. Congratulations to all of you, master growers. Seek out or go to those palm trees because they are waiting for you. Give life to life.

November 22

On 11/18/2025 at 6:34 PM, Merlyn said:

partially because a certain member keeps "spamming the board" with 20 or so new and yet somehow highly repetitive topics per day.

This^^^^^

November 22

On 11/20/2025 at 2:32 PM, JohnAndSancho said:

But also speaking from personal experience, if everything gets pushed into one big long thread it seems to go unnoticed as well.

Not if that one long thread gets frequently updated. Which I'm sure it would.......

November 22

I apologize for the long post, kind of got carried away LOL.

I find facebook a totally different environment. If your posts are more of the "hey check this out" and the goal is to get dozens of likes and wows and loves, FB is the place for that. If you want a discussion, the PT forum is much better for a meaningful discussion. There are some overlaps of course, such as "can anyone ID this?" can go in either, and in FB or Reddit this may have a wider reach of people, while on PT there is a deeper reach of expertise. There is no need to follow any topics on FB, because it's a short live flash than it dies. I still can't figure out what the magic logic FB uses to decide showing only some comments as "Relevant" and how this relevance is even determined, not sure FB themselves know.

As for PT, there are some I would consider "weedy threads". I would say the issue is not the number of posts, but the number of threads. I would prefer to have the threads a bit more organized, there is no need to have one thread, there can be multiple threads as there are different ways to slice and dice anything and people will never agree.

I do think the forum of "PALMS IN POTS" underused. I think topics about seeds, up potting, unboxing...when you are discussing or showcasing your stuff in a green house, that ought to go into that subforum instead of using DISCUSSION PALM TREES WORLDWIDE for everything.

https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/forum/45-palms-in-pots/

I personally find threads that are cumulative very attractive because one can see the progression and even revisit older posts in the same thread. The orchid thread in the Tropical Plant thread is a good example of that...I go back to look at that thread weekly, seeing new posts added and sometimes scrolling back on older posts.

The thread showing Len Geiger's garden is another example that is fascinating to read and follow over the years.

The What Caught Your Eyes thread is also a very nice way to group together otherwise might feel very weedy posts showing what impressed someone on a particular day.

So is the color thread.

I find these threads with hundreds and thousands of replies (replies! not just views!) great holding places for housing what otherwise would be very weedy threads scattered all over. I also think these get way more views than a one off thread that's buried after a few days never to be seen again.

Speaking of weeds, what one may consider a weed may be another person's treasure, so it's very subjective thus the diverse opinion on this subject matter.

On the positive side, I am glad we can afford to have discussions about "too many threads or too many posts" because this is a luxury! Today many online forums are getting phased out due to low participation very little traffic, they beg for new threads any thread even threads like "what's the weather today where you are" or "Let me show you what I bought from the grocery store today - grocery unbagging".

I personally do not like limiting posts or threads, or using ignore features as those can be two edge swords and have unintended results.

Finally, I know this is a palm forum, but it has a tropical plant subforum, I wonder why it doesn't have an aquatic plant subforum? Is it so specialized if one existed I would be the only one posting there or is it not palm related enough?

November 22

38 minutes ago, miamicuse said:

I apologize for the long post, kind of got carried away LOL.

I find facebook a totally different environment. If your posts are more of the "hey check this out" and the goal is to get dozens of likes and wows and loves, FB is the place for that. If you want a discussion, the PT forum is much better for a meaningful discussion. There are some overlaps of course, such as "can anyone ID this?" can go in either, and in FB or Reddit this may have a wider reach of people, while on PT there is a deeper reach of expertise. There is no need to follow any topics on FB, because it's a short live flash than it dies. I still can't figure out what the magic logic FB uses to decide showing only some comments as "Relevant" and how this relevance is even determined, not sure FB themselves know.

As for PT, there are some I would consider "weedy threads". I would say the issue is not the number of posts, but the number of threads. I would prefer to have the threads a bit more organized, there is no need to have one thread, there can be multiple threads as there are different ways to slice and dice anything and people will never agree.

I do think the forum of "PALMS IN POTS" underused. I think topics about seeds, up potting, unboxing...when you are discussing or showcasing your stuff in a green house, that ought to go into that subforum instead of using DISCUSSION PALM TREES WORLDWIDE for everything.

https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/forum/45-palms-in-pots/

I personally find threads that are cumulative very attractive because one can see the progression and even revisit older posts in the same thread. The orchid thread in the Tropical Plant thread is a good example of that...I go back to look at that thread weekly, seeing new posts added and sometimes scrolling back on older posts.

The thread showing Len Geiger's garden is another example that is fascinating to read and follow over the years.

The What Caught Your Eyes thread is also a very nice way to group together otherwise might feel very weedy posts showing what impressed someone on a particular day.

So is the color thread.

I find these threads with hundreds and thousands of replies great holding places for housing what otherwise would be very weedy threads scattered all over. I also think these get way more views than a one off thread that's buried after a few days never to be seen again.

Speaking of weeds, what one may consider a weed may be another person's treasure, so it's very subjective thus the diverse opinion on this subject matter.

On the positive side, I am glad we can afford to have discussions about "too many threads or too many posts" because this is a luxury as many online forums are getting phased out with very little traffic, they beg for new threads any thread even like "what's the weather today where you are" or "Let me show you what I bought from the grocery store today - grocery unbagging".

I personally do not like limiting posts or threads, or using ignore features as those can be two edge swords and have unintended results.

Finally, I know this is a palm forum, but it has a tropical plant subforum, I wonder why it doesn't have an aquatic plant subforum? Is it so specialized if one existed I would be the only one posting there or is it not palm related enough?

This is great..

some of the points made reflect why I ditched the "look at me / pat me on the head " " face drama"

Not a human hangup I can appreciate or find much to respect in. Very dark triad territory. ..so no thanks. Lol.

A sub form ..say centered on aquatics.. would be nice

As would be one devoted just to bug and disease questions / guidance

Well respected cactus centric forum did just that. Makes it easy to see what folks might be dealing with.

Such info Doesn't get lost in a hodgepodge of other posts n threads either.

November 22

I don't agree with creating more sub-forums. Nowadays I feel like there is so much self-segregation "banishment" into the cold hardy forum for example. What happened to the days when everyone whether from India, New York, Croatia, the Philippines, etc were all in the same thread? Cold hardy palms, potted palms, freeze damaged palms...in the end all of this discussion is still centered around palms!

A forum imo shouldn't feel like an archive or an encyclopedia meant for "user convenience" in storing and/or extracting information. The priority should be community and active engagement. If you want to search for and/or save certain things, then the search engine and/or bookmarks work fine.

Fwiw, I enjoy @happypalms posts. I'm glad there's someone enthusiastic about palms posting tons of pictures of a wide variety of palms keeping palmtalk alive despite forums being ancient history at this point. What's stopping everyone else from posting or bumping threads? Where are the people bumping 10-15 year old threads? Please come back...actually everyone please come back...yes even the lurkers 😆

November 22

Nice example of a thread documenting someone's personal palm progress...

It’s really enjoyable to watch this poster’s changes, successes, and failures over time, and it makes it easy to see progress. Other people can add their coconut pics if they’d like, but it’s essentially one person’s record. My “Floribunda Abundance” thread is one I created to document progress (specifically about my Floribunda buys), and I look forward to updating it again soon.

Other threads are more open-ended and invite thoughtful participation from everyone… like “What Is the Rarest Palm You Own?” or “Share Your Microclimate Tips.” Those are super fun as well, since they’re inviting to all.

November 22

2 hours ago, miamicuse said:

I find facebook a totally different environment. If your posts are more of the "hey check this out" and the goal is to get dozens of likes and wows and loves, FB is the place for that. If you want a discussion, the PT forum is much better for a meaningful discussion...

That's indeed what I like about this forum over Facebook. The IPS Facebook group does have some helpful comments, but it's really easy to have a Facebook group turn into a simple "like my pretty thing" group.

Exhibit A: One of my Hibiscus Groups (that I no longer visit often, due to all the useless "pretty" comments & memes). I find myself visiting my "Hibiscus Care" group more often these days, since they're actually sharing tips and advice (not just "likes")...

The "What caught your eye today" thread is the closest we have to a Facebook group (within the forum). People just post something pretty & other people "like" it. But since it's grouped in a single thread, it's fun and silly to see it keep popping up again... doesn't dominate the board.

Just some thoughts on how this forum is different than Facebook (in a good way).

November 22

On 11/21/2025 at 4:25 PM, Mazat said:

Welcome back, Ben. Good to have you back outside.

If the authorities learn and those they represent also learn from strong criticism from various people, then there would be or is a way out of the rigid system.
Just making nice promises will not work in the long run. Results and facts are needed, and we believe that these people represent the wishes and rights of the people with ethics, not with intimidation, imprisonment, or violence.
Furthermore, every person, regardless of their level of education, will eventually realize that they are being oppressed and mistreated.

lol sorry to break it to you Mazat, but I wasn't actually in jail. It was just a light hearted joke. I deliberately mentioned the whole posting from a 'burner phone' in jail in the hope that people wouldn't take it seriously! Although I do agree with all the points you make anyway. But yeah, I was joking around. It was more myself making a joke about the situation in the UK nowadays and the state of affairs, rather than me trying to dupe anyone or cause drama.

One issue with the forums at the moment though, on multiple sites, is that there is a bit of a lack of personal engagement, jokes, entertainment, drama etc. So things kind of feel a little bit mundane. While it is important to keep stuff on topic and palm related in our case, you also need to balance it with funny, light hearted, entertaining discussions. There has to be some fun had. We aren't robots after all. And as you mentioned, overbearing strictness will wear you down too. Things have felt a little bit robotic on here over the past 12 months, but maybe that is just me.

Also as much as I love palms, I think I have got a bit burnt out with the topic after a number of years. Of course I own plenty of palms and I will continue to be an avid palm spotter, collector and grower, but at the same time I have felt a bit worn out with it all lately, compared to say several years back. That is my own personal reason for not posting as much on here, especially in recent months. I seem to post more about weather and my tomato growing exploits more than I do palms nowadays, both here and on X. Perhaps that will change again soon.

Anyway, I hope you are well Mazat. And I hope everyone else on PT is keeping well too. 👍

November 22

7 hours ago, Billy said:

Not if that one long thread gets frequently updated. Which I'm sure it would.......

Lol I am speaking from personal experience here. My thread is totally unnoticed. Maybe nobody cares about growing indoors, maybe nobody likes me. I don't know. Either way it's still updated regularly and nobody either notices or nobody cares.

November 23

3 hours ago, UK_Palms said:

lol sorry to break it to you Mazat, but I wasn't actually in jail. It was just a light hearted joke. I deliberately mentioned the whole posting from a 'burner phone' in jail in the hope that people wouldn't take it seriously! Although I do agree with all the points you make anyway. But yeah, I was joking around. It was more myself making a joke about the situation in the UK nowadays and the state of affairs, rather than me trying to dupe anyone or cause drama.

One issue with the forums at the moment though, on multiple sites, is that there is a bit of a lack of personal engagement, jokes, entertainment, drama etc. So things kind of feel a little bit mundane. While it is important to keep stuff on topic and palm related in our case, you also need to balance it with funny, light hearted, entertaining discussions. There has to be some fun had. We aren't robots after all. And as you mentioned, overbearing strictness will wear you down too. Things have felt a little bit robotic on here over the past 12 months, but maybe that is just me.

Also as much as I love palms, I think I have got a bit burnt out with the topic after a number of years. Of course I own plenty of palms and I will continue to be an avid palm spotter, collector and grower, but at the same time I have felt a bit worn out with it all lately, compared to say several years back. That is my own personal reason for not posting as much on here, especially in recent months. I seem to post more about weather and my tomato growing exploits more than I do palms nowadays, both here and on X. Perhaps that will change again soon.

Anyway, I hope you are well Mazat. And I hope everyone else on PT is keeping well too. 👍

I saw that and thought ..whaat, hold the phone a sec.

Glad you weren't actually in jail, lol.

No wearing out here, but know what you're getting at.

Need more space

...that is mine

..to create the one of a kind landscape envisioned

Emphasize ..one of a kind

Not just the 6 thousandth copy of someone else's.

...Even if each is nice ... in their own way.

November 23

1 minute ago, Silas_Sancona said:

I saw that and thought ..whaat, hold the phone a sec.

Glad you weren't actually in jail, lol.

No wearing out here, but know what you're getting at.

Need more space

...that is mine

..to create the one of a kind landscape envisioned

Emphasize ..one of a kind

Not just the 6 thousandth copy of someone else's.

...Even if each is nice ... in their own way.

Also, yes ..ohh yes..

Most people have more interests

...many more science and nature related interests / pursuits..

That reach far beyond some interesting fronds, and a trunk.

November 23

14 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

Lol I am speaking from personal experience here. My thread is totally unnoticed. Maybe nobody cares about growing indoors, maybe nobody likes me. I don't know. Either way it's still updated regularly and nobody either notices or nobody cares.

Ahhh I think it's safe to say on the behalf of others that you are liked and welcomed here. I see a great deal of hard work and dedication through your posts. I'm not sure if I've seen the post you're referring to but I wouldn't be surprised if it's pushed way down the boards due to the excessive posting previously mentioned.....

November 23

50 minutes ago, Billy said:

Ahhh I think it's safe to say on the behalf of others that you are liked and welcomed here. I see a great deal of hard work and dedication through your posts. I'm not sure if I've seen the post you're referring to but I wouldn't be surprised if it's pushed way down the boards due to the excessive posting previously mentioned.....

It's in Palms in Pots which is basically a ghost town. I've done a lot on a small budget and yes, this time I am actively seeking affirmation and a pat on the head.

Read it while you're on the toilet, it's a long thread and I get wordy.

November 23

If I am counted, I am here sneakily navigating through! Winter is coming, but the fever for planting and buying is still going strong. It's a hard to get rid of the fever in fall and spring.

November 23

18 hours ago, iDesign said:

That's indeed what I like about this forum over Facebook. The IPS Facebook group does have some helpful comments, but it's really easy to have a Facebook group turn into a simple "like my pretty thing" group.

Exhibit A: One of my Hibiscus Groups (that I no longer visit often, due to all the useless "pretty" comments & memes). I find myself visiting my "Hibiscus Care" group more often these days, since they're actually sharing tips and advice (not just "likes")...

The "What caught your eye today" thread is the closest we have to a Facebook group (within the forum). People just post something pretty & other people "like" it. But since it's grouped in a single thread, it's fun and silly to see it keep popping up again... doesn't dominate the board.

Just some thoughts on how this forum is different than Facebook (in a good way).

Nice hibiscus! Is grafting rare verities like the ones in the picture of your group is easy?

November 23

On 11/20/2025 at 5:23 PM, Jonathan Haycock said:

I’ve tried the “ignored user” function, but it’s frankly useless. All it does is hide the content of the individuals post, not remove it from your feed altogether, so the same issue remains with threads being smothered into oblivion before anyone gets a chance to see them.

The beauty of Facebook groups is one can block an individual if required, which ensures you don’t see their posts nor visa versa. Wonder if something similar could be implemented on PalmTalk?

Hilarious

November 23

18 hours ago, UK_Palms said:

lol sorry to break it to you Mazat, but I wasn't actually in jail. It was just a light hearted joke. I deliberately mentioned the whole posting from a 'burner phone' in jail in the hope that people wouldn't take it seriously! Although I do agree with all the points you make anyway. But yeah, I was joking around. It was more myself making a joke about the situation in the UK nowadays and the state of affairs, rather than me trying to dupe anyone or cause drama.

One issue with the forums at the moment though, on multiple sites, is that there is a bit of a lack of personal engagement, jokes, entertainment, drama etc. So things kind of feel a little bit mundane. While it is important to keep stuff on topic and palm related in our case, you also need to balance it with funny, light hearted, entertaining discussions. There has to be some fun had. We aren't robots after all. And as you mentioned, overbearing strictness will wear you down too. Things have felt a little bit robotic on here over the past 12 months, but maybe that is just me.

Also as much as I love palms, I think I have got a bit burnt out with the topic after a number of years. Of course I own plenty of palms and I will continue to be an avid palm spotter, collector and grower, but at the same time I have felt a bit worn out with it all lately, compared to say several years back. That is my own personal reason for not posting as much on here, especially in recent months. I seem to post more about weather and my tomato growing exploits more than I do palms nowadays, both here and on X. Perhaps that will change again soon.

Anyway, I hope you are well Mazat. And I hope everyone else on PT is keeping well too. 👍

That's good, Ben. To be honest, I wasn't sure whether you had been in prison or not, but nowadays things happen that you can't rule out immediately.
That was a different kind of icebreaker, lol.
By the way, the tomato cultivation is a very interesting thing. There is a large tomato variety that is very special in the Middle East, one that I got to know a few weeks ago, here in the area. He, Umar, lived near Damascus on the Lebanese border during his youth, later met a German woman who lived near Lake Garda Italy and moved there, then later moved to Lake Constance. He already has two children and is just over thirty years old.
He told me about a variety and even gave me the name, but I forgot it because I had a lot on my mind.
It is very large, weighing up to 0.8 kg for the larger ones. Perhaps you know which one it is?

Thanks for asking, Ben. I'm fine, except that I have sore muscles from carrying so much during my friend's move.
Ten hours yesterday and five today, I'm a tiny bit exhausted ... just kidding, very tired 😅

WELCOME GUEST

Everybody ok?

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