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Phoenix canariensis impressive growth at 62N


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Photos from my garden in Ålesund, Norway at latitude 62N.  Phoenix canariensis planted in the ground this july close to the southfacing wall of the house. You can see some serious growth growth from july to october and this is even in the first year in the ground here in Norway! We have a very mild climate here, a zone 9A. Close to the ocean, heavily influenced by the Gulf Stream. To the east we got tall mountains sheltering us from cold easternly winds during the winter. There has been no frost so far this autumn! 😊 november 5th.

 

And before you say something, the palm will be moved further away from the house next year - it is way to close 😄

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Congratulations. I wouldn't worry about being to close to the house in your place. It will be much easier to provide extra protection during winter 

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3 hours ago, Norwaypalmtrees said:

Photos from my garden in Ålesund, Norway at latitude 62N.  Phoenix canariensis planted in the ground this july close to the southfacing wall of the house. You can see some serious growth growth from july to october and this is even in the first year in the ground here in Norway! We have a very mild climate here, a zone 9A. Close to the ocean, heavily influenced by the Gulf Stream. To the east we got tall mountains sheltering us from cold easternly winds during the winter. There has been no frost so far this autumn! 😊 november 5th.

 

And before you say something, the palm will be moved further away from the house next year - it is way to close 😄

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Given the timeframe and latitude, that is certainly nice growth. It doesn't look like it paused at all after planting.

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Yes, Ben, it just started to grow immediately after being planted in the ground. Very impressive! And that is in our climate! 

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12 hours ago, Norwaypalmtrees said:

Photos from my garden in Ålesund, Norway at latitude 62N.  Phoenix canariensis planted in the ground this july close to the southfacing wall of the house. You can see some serious growth growth from july to october and this is even in the first year in the ground here in Norway! We have a very mild climate here, a zone 9A. Close to the ocean, heavily influenced by the Gulf Stream. To the east we got tall mountains sheltering us from cold easternly winds during the winter. There has been no frost so far this autumn! 😊 november 5th.

 

And before you say something, the palm will be moved further away from the house next year - it is way to close 😄

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Nice palm but I am especially liking the scenery and the mountains. Beautiful! A palm growing climate with nice mountain views! 👍 

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Wow , 62 N ? That’s amazing . I hope winter is kind and it continues to thrive . Harry

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Impressive. With a zone 9a climate, do others in the region plant similarly? Eventually the trunk diameter will be larger than the stone planter, and 20 ft fronds will be a factor against the building wall. Daylight must be scarce for several months this time of year. I applaud your efforts. Keep us informed on it's progress.

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Amazing @Norwaypalmtrees You got a great spot there, looking forward to see it growth next year 🤩 I will probably plant one of mine out next year.

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The palm seen from above. Photo from Nov 5th 2025.

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13 hours ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

Impressive. With a zone 9a climate, do others in the region plant similarly? Eventually the trunk diameter will be larger than the stone planter, and 20 ft fronds will be a factor against the building wall. Daylight must be scarce for several months this time of year. I applaud your efforts. Keep us informed on it's progress.

Yes, me and some other people are testing out a wide variety of palm trees and other exotics. Butias, jubaea etc. Windmills are plenty around here. 

 

Our winters are extremely mild but like you say daylight is getting very short.  Fortunately the palms go into a dormant state when the temperature drops and they give up photosynthesis. Our biggest challenge is perhaps the wet/moist conditions combined with frost. 

 

Growing palms is only possible a short distance inland from the ocean and the Gulf Stream effect. If you go deeper into the fjords and inland it gets colder during the winter really fast. 

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34 minutes ago, Norwaypalmtrees said:

Our winters are extremely mild ...

I see what you mean. Pretty similar to my region although, I grew a CIDP for 6 or 7 years which needed a shelter and a string of old C7 Xmas lights on the ground around the base of the trunk in winter coldest nights. Left to grow unprotected, it died.

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Beautiful specimen and beautiful view! I bet it will go through your winter fine; if you expect a very cold front you can always protect with some Xmas lights maybe. Your summer conditions may be similar to those of London and we know that CIDP grow massive there. 

The concrete blocks are a very good idea. They will absorb and then release heat

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Wow. I've been on the fence about keeping mine, I bought it as a small 1g off eBay and between the worst packaging I've ever seen of a live plant and the shipping delays, it's not grown much and I've pondered selling it but after seeing this, maybe I'll keep it and let it recover and see how it does. 

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This CIDP is already going to get tested in about 10-14 days time. Autumn has been abnormally mild so far, but there is going to be a very cold air feed into northern Europe by this time next week. Norway is right in the firing line. I would be careful around the 20th/21st. It looks like the arctic air is coming straight down through Scandinavia as well, rather than from the east via Russia and more Finland way. I don't think this coming winter is going to be kind to Scandinavia and Scotland on our side.

For now, most of the arctic cold is over far east Asia and in Russia. In recent nights temperatures have dipped below -45C in parts of Russia. Whereas the Canadian vortex seems dead as a dodo amid record mild temperatures there. I don't think Canada has even had -25C yet. All that cold that is trapped over far east Asia will move in one of our directions later this month. Likely in the direction of Scandinavia. If some of it doesn't spill over to Canada and the US, it will be even worse for northern Europe when it does move.  

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Yes! Actually the temperature so far this november is around 10,5 celsius at my place. Way above the historical average. I am taking measurements these days in building boxes for my 2 CIDP's to keep them dry and sheltered. Will post more photos when I am done.

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On 11/5/2025 at 4:21 AM, Norwaypalmtrees said:

Photos from my garden in Ålesund, Norway at latitude 62N.  Phoenix canariensis planted in the ground this july close to the southfacing wall of the house. You can see some serious growth growth from july to october and this is even in the first year in the ground here in Norway! We have a very mild climate here, a zone 9A. Close to the ocean, heavily influenced by the Gulf Stream. To the east we got tall mountains sheltering us from cold easternly winds during the winter. There has been no frost so far this autumn! 😊 november 5th.

 

And before you say something, the palm will be moved further away from the house next year - it is way to close 😄

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It looks very happy so it must have really enjoyed your long summer days. Good luck with winter!

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Nov 10th 2025:

Building a house for the CIDP today. Easy access from the front hatch to put in wool or other insulating stuff if I need to.  Atleast the palm will be sheltered from moist/wet conditions and the wind. I will never use any artificial heating inside the box.

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Good job on that. I hope it works out. I am cheering for you. I would be tempted to put a light in there . Harry

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Thank you Harry 😄 still no frost here, hope the winter will be kind.

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