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Slow to germinate and slow to grow princeps. Imported seeds from china a few  of years ago. Just sit back and wait on these little beauties. So far there easy to grow I definitely know they are cold tolerant that’s for sure. But at least I have them growing for now. 

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It's funny, the more I learn about palms... Knowing how long it takes some of these to grow makes me admire and respect some people's collections, but at the same time it frustrates me when I'm waiting on my own seeds to sprout and grow. Seeing how it takes some of these plants to turn into just a 6 inch pot, meanwhile I can mow the lawn and after a rainy week there's tall.grass and weeds everywhere - 

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16 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

It's funny, the more I learn about palms... Knowing how long it takes some of these to grow makes me admire and respect some people's collections, but at the same time it frustrates me when I'm waiting on my own seeds to sprout and grow. Seeing how it takes some of these plants to turn into just a 6 inch pot, meanwhile I can mow the lawn and after a rainy week there's tall.grass and weeds everywhere - 

The old saying the older we get the better our palms get. In Hawaii a 20 year old garden would look pretty good! In my subtropical climate with an annual rainfall of about 1800mm it has taken my garden 25 years. A tropical palm garden wants water and lots of it. The more water the faster it grows. Iam currently planting another garden in my existing garden so another 25 years and it should look pretty good. Just in time for me to sit back and reflect on life in my garden! Then they can throw my ashes around the garden! 

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16 minutes ago, happypalms said:

The old saying the older we get the better our palms get. In Hawaii a 20 year old garden would look pretty good! In my subtropical climate with an annual rainfall of about 1800mm it has taken my garden 25 years. A tropical palm garden wants water and lots of it. The more water the faster it grows. Iam currently planting another garden in my existing garden so another 25 years and it should look pretty good. Just in time for me to sit back and reflect on life in my garden! Then they can throw my ashes around the garden! 

I spent a lot of time with my brother yesterday while he was waiting to get out of the hospital and after his discharge. Probably the most time I've spent with him in a decade (we don't always get along) and I told him I wanted to put beds everywhere in our massive yard growing stuff. I think the biggest selling point was "think of how much less grass you'll have to mow." 

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Yes , patience is necessary when growing from seed . I just potted a Howea F. that sprouted over a year ago . One of my larger Kentia had a huge amount of seed a few years ago and I just planted a few in the garden and gave the rest away . It took well over a year before they sprouted and I dug up the largest one and put it in a pot for future planting. That makes the seedling about 3 years old! Having an ongoing garden helps . I started my collection 35 years ago and moved here in 1997 . I brought some palms with me .from the old house.
       The more tropical the climate , the faster most will grow . @happypalms is in a sub tropical climate and Hawaii is tropical . The growth rate for some palms can be three times what I get here in a warm temperate climate. I’m not sure about the seedlings in the photos . Some palms are just very slow to start growing. It really makes you appreciate the larger palms in the collection , it seemed like a really long time but now I walk through my garden and remember them as small palms or even volunteers from some Chamaedorea that I planted 20+ years ago. Palm collecting is a lifetime deal , for sure , and very rewarding as time marches along. HarryIMG_0384.thumb.jpeg.45f59c36f224d73445717b09fa16a0b3.jpeg

This little guy sprouted a year after sowed. It is now about double in size so I potted it up for future planting in a better location.

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34 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

I spent a lot of time with my brother yesterday while he was waiting to get out of the hospital and after his discharge. Probably the most time I've spent with him in a decade (we don't always get along) and I told him I wanted to put beds everywhere in our massive yard growing stuff. I think the biggest selling point was "think of how much less grass you'll have to mow." 

Don’t waste time in life. Don’t hold grudges, don’t argue with people, it’s all dead energy when you could be living your life. Make amends with your brother, I have two world trips with my brother, he left home and we lost contact and went our seperate ways. Two world trips later I found my brother again and love him dearly. He has a sickness that could take him out anytime auto immune disease he choose his direction in life. I choose mine we meet in between and we are the bbest of friends. Don’t lose your brother and have regrets in life. You can always go out and mow the lawn anytime together!

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34 minutes ago, Harry’s Palms said:

Yes , patience is necessary when growing from seed . I just potted a Howea F. that sprouted over a year ago . One of my larger Kentia had a huge amount of seed a few years ago and I just planted a few in the garden and gave the rest away . It took well over a year before they sprouted and I dug up the largest one and put it in a pot for future planting. That makes the seedling about 3 years old! Having an ongoing garden helps . I started my collection 35 years ago and moved here in 1997 . I brought some palms with me .from the old house.
       The more tropical the climate , the faster most will grow . @happypalms is in a sub tropical climate and Hawaii is tropical . The growth rate for some palms can be three times what I get here in a warm temperate climate. I’m not sure about the seedlings in the photos . Some palms are just very slow to start growing. It really makes you appreciate the larger palms in the collection , it seemed like a really long time but now I walk through my garden and remember them as small palms or even volunteers from some Chamaedorea that I planted 20+ years ago. Palm collecting is a lifetime deal , for sure , and very rewarding as time marches along. HarryIMG_0384.thumb.jpeg.45f59c36f224d73445717b09fa16a0b3.jpeg

This little guy sprouted a year after sowed. It is now about double in size so I potted it up for future planting in a better location.

I know the feeling well. We need a bumper sticker life is to short to grow lawns, grow palms instead!  It is agonising sometimes how slow palms grow, visitors look at my garden and say I want that, I say you should have started 25 years ago, that’s about how long it takes! Any young gardener I meet I say to them plant as much as you can for your future. I guess the old saying when is the best time to plant a tree 30 years ago! 
Richard 

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1 hour ago, happypalms said:

The old saying the older we get the better our palms get. In Hawaii a 20 year old garden would look pretty good! In my subtropical climate with an annual rainfall of about 1800mm it has taken my garden 25 years. A tropical palm garden wants water and lots of it. The more water the faster it grows. Iam currently planting another garden in my existing garden so another 25 years and it should look pretty good. Just in time for me to sit back and reflect on life in my garden! Then they can throw my ashes around the garden! 

a beautiful speech, and i personally really like the wonderful final sentence.😀

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4 minutes ago, Mazat said:

a beautiful speech, and i personally really like the wonderful final sentence.😀

Yes the palms will get the final benefit from me as there gardener, they just eye me off daily thinking we will eat you one day! 🤣

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I bought my Trachy in a 20cm pot 4 years ago and put it in the ground right away. Feed them well and they are far from slow growing. Mine is now about 1.5 metres above the eaves of the house.  I also had a very tiny 2 leaf Trachy Wagnerianus and when I gave it away 18 months later it was about 30cm over all in height.

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I came. I saw. I purchased

 

 

27.35 south.

Warm subtropical, with occasional frosts.

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2 hours ago, happypalms said:

Don’t waste time in life. Don’t hold grudges, don’t argue with people, it’s all dead energy when you could be living your life. Make amends with your brother, I have two world trips with my brother, he left home and we lost contact and went our seperate ways. Two world trips later I found my brother again and love him dearly. He has a sickness that could take him out anytime auto immune disease he choose his direction in life. I choose mine we meet in between and we are the bbest of friends. Don’t lose your brother and have regrets in life. You can always go out and mow the lawn anytime together!

I'm trying. He can be a real bastard at times, and we had a long conversation about it.Honestly, I take everything he says with a grain of salt because he's not always the most honest person, but he says he goes into a brain fog and doesn't remember the things he says and does. He asked me to just kind of point it out to him when he gets like that, maybe I need to record it. I know I'm over sharing and putting a lot of personal business out in the open, but he's really sick, I'm really sick, Mom is basically crippled, let's all just try to get along and find something to bond over since none of us are going to leave this house unless we win the lottery. 

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Richard, this species is rare

GIUSEPPE

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1 hour ago, JohnAndSancho said:

I'm trying. He can be a real bastard at times, and we had a long conversation about it.Honestly, I take everything he says with a grain of salt because he's not always the most honest person, but he says he goes into a brain fog and doesn't remember the things he says and does. He asked me to just kind of point it out to him when he gets like that, maybe I need to record it. I know I'm over sharing and putting a lot of personal business out in the open, but he's really sick, I'm really sick, Mom is basically crippled, let's all just try to get along and find something to bond over since none of us are going to leave this house unless we win the lottery. 

Dogs are God's way of apologising for our relatives.

 

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I came. I saw. I purchased

 

 

27.35 south.

Warm subtropical, with occasional frosts.

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Back to Trachycarpus p. for the moment, I’m getting the impression that cool humidity is bad for them. About 12-14 years ago a bunch of seed came around that a bunch of local palm guys started growing (myself included).  I am not aware of anybody within a few miles of the coastline that got them to survive. If I’m wrong about that, please somebody let me know. They would languish, then get attacked by Mealey bugs and scale, and just never grew well before finally expiring. To this day, I’m not aware of one growing in that zone. On the other hand, any planted in more arid parts of the state, that got lots of heat and cold, grew like crazy. Slam dunk, easy Peezy. Too bad, beautiful palms.

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Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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6 hours ago, happypalms said:

Don’t waste time in life. Don’t hold grudges, don’t argue with people, it’s all dead energy when you could be living your life. Make amends with your brother, I have two world trips with my brother, he left home and we lost contact and went our seperate ways. Two world trips later I found my brother again and love him dearly. He has a sickness that could take him out anytime auto immune disease he choose his direction in life. I choose mine we meet in between and we are the bbest of friends. Don’t lose your brother and have regrets in life. You can always go out and mow the lawn anytime together!

I have 4 brothers, we spend a lot of time together, in the morning I go to help them in their big shop, only for 3 hours, with my brothers we get along very well

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GIUSEPPE

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5 hours ago, quaman58 said:

Back to Trachycarpus p. for the moment, I’m getting the impression that cool humidity is bad for them. About 12-14 years ago a bunch of seed came around that a bunch of local palm guys started growing (myself included).  I am not aware of anybody within a few miles of the coastline that got them to survive. If I’m wrong about that, please somebody let me know. They would languish, then get attacked by Mealey bugs and scale, and just never grew well before finally expiring. To this day, I’m not aware of one growing in that zone. On the other hand, any planted in more arid parts of the state, that got lots of heat and cold, grew like crazy. Slam dunk, easy Peezy. Too bad, beautiful palms.

Interesting. For 6 months of the year my climate is cool and humid. For the other 6 months it ranges from mild to hot and dry. They thrive here.  I’d be surprised if cool humidity was an issue for these based on their habitat. Possibly a soil drainage issue that is exposed more when humidity doesn’t dry them out as much?

This was mine last September coming out of a cold and wet winter. it’s a fair bit bigger now.image.thumb.jpeg.84ec8b55b2bdfe94ee44fd915d9f31dc.jpeg
 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

Rarely Frost

2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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7 hours ago, quaman58 said:

Back to Trachycarpus p. for the moment, I’m getting the impression that cool humidity is bad for them. About 12-14 years ago a bunch of seed came around that a bunch of local palm guys started growing (myself included).  I am not aware of anybody within a few miles of the coastline that got them to survive. If I’m wrong about that, please somebody let me know. They would languish, then get attacked by Mealey bugs and scale, and just never grew well before finally expiring. To this day, I’m not aware of one growing in that zone. On the other hand, any planted in more arid parts of the state, that got lots of heat and cold, grew like crazy. Slam dunk, easy Peezy. Too bad, beautiful palms.

Could be the salt air that’s not to there liking. Many palms don’t want to grow by the coast. Possibly the soil in your area. Mine seem to be doing fine cold, wet, hot, dry conditions and humidity.Not sure what the situation is with them in your area. Mealy bug attack would suggest dry conditions to me. Salt air I reckon! 

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2 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Interesting. For 6 months of the year my climate is cool and humid. For the other 6 months it ranges from mild to hot and dry. They thrive here.  I’d be surprised if cool humidity was an issue for these based on their habitat. Possibly a soil drainage issue that is exposed more when humidity doesn’t dry them out as much?

This was mine last September coming out of a cold and wet winter. it’s a fair bit bigger now.image.thumb.jpeg.84ec8b55b2bdfe94ee44fd915d9f31dc.jpeg
 

You got the tracky climate there for sure Tim!

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8 hours ago, peachy said:

Dogs are God's way of apologising for our relatives.

 

And as they say let sleeping dogs lye. 
Richard 

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5 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

I have 4 brothers, we spend a lot of time together, in the morning I go to help them in their big shop, only for 3 hours, with my brothers we get along very well

You can choose your friends but not your family, life is to to short for arguing! 

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11 hours ago, gyuseppe said:

Richard, this species is rare

It is rare in Australia as well, germination takes so long and very sporadic!

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11 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

I'm trying. He can be a real bastard at times, and we had a long conversation about it.Honestly, I take everything he says with a grain of salt because he's not always the most honest person, but he says he goes into a brain fog and doesn't remember the things he says and does. He asked me to just kind of point it out to him when he gets like that, maybe I need to record it. I know I'm over sharing and putting a lot of personal business out in the open, but he's really sick, I'm really sick, Mom is basically crippled, let's all just try to get along and find something to bond over since none of us are going to leave this house unless we win the lottery. 

I know it’s easy for me to say don’t worry about it. But simply don’t worry about it if I was to lose my brother it would be total devastation for me. When our father passed he was not there when I needed him the most for whatever reason, now he regrets that reason. Life is not easy sometimes with its roller coaster of emotions, but that’s what makes us all individuals, idiosyncrasies it’s what makes John John and Richard Richard, if we where all the same it would be a boring world enjoy those differences it’s a fun thing!

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On 7/10/2025 at 3:30 PM, happypalms said:

Slow to germinate and slow to grow princeps. Imported seeds from china a few  of years ago. Just sit back and wait on these little beauties. So far there easy to grow I definitely know they are cold tolerant that’s for sure. But at least I have them growing for now. 

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One day Grasshopper 

You got this  !! 

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Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

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Pushing three spears, mid winter Tasmania...microclimate very foggy in winter, clay soil. Happy as!

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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29 minutes ago, Jonathan said:

Pushing three spears, mid winter Tasmania...microclimate very foggy in winter, clay soil. Happy as!

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Congratulations my friend Jonathan! A beautiful specimen in excellent health.

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GIUSEPPE

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Hey All,

Here is mine in Beaumont, CA.  Probably 7'-8' tall to the leaf tips. Has taken off the last few years, a good grower for me. Can't find the planting date but was probably a 2-3 gal. from KW around 2019.

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Randy

 

Beaumont, Ca. In the wind tunnel between Riverside and Palm Springs.

USDA 9B , Sunset Zone 18, Elevation 2438'

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Randall, yours beats mine--it's alive! Looks great. I was afraid it had been roto-tilled to make room for your Tiki/Rum room/Speak easy. 

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Bret

 

Coastal canyon area of San Diego

 

"In the shadow of the Cross"

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10 hours ago, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

One day Grasshopper 

You got this  !! 

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Wax on wax off!

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7 hours ago, Jonathan said:

Pushing three spears, mid winter Tasmania...microclimate very foggy in winter, clay soil. Happy as!

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I heard you wanted to dig it out and send it to happypalms is that true🤣

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5 hours ago, happypalms said:

I heard you wanted to dig it out and send it to happypalms is that true🤣

I'm afraid not...you have to let me win one competition?!

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South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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11 hours ago, happypalms said:

I heard you wanted to dig it out and send it to happypalms is that true🤣

Haha 😄 

Old Beach ,Hobart
Tasmania ,Australia. 42 " south
Cool Maritime climate

Posted
6 hours ago, Jonathan said:

I'm afraid not...you have to let me win one competition?!

Close but no cigar!

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1 hour ago, Tassie_Troy1971 said:

Haha 😄 

You can only try!🤣

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