ruskinPalms Posted December 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 I took plenty of prefreeze pictures of the garden today. This may be as exotic as it ever looks as things that croak are going to be replaced with cold hardy species that can truly take 9B without visible damage or with just very minimal visible damage. I am not looking forward to chocolate brown blow torched palms for the rest of this winter and spring just to find out they didn't make when they don't come back by the middle of the summer. 27F with or without wind is cold enough to kill outright a good portion of my garden Parrish, FL Zone 9B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskinPalms Posted December 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Water in pond behind the house is 74.5F - it will be interesting to see how cold it gets during this freeze. Parrish, FL Zone 9B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbean Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 I surprised that they are predicting a ~10 F difference for me to the rest of Central Florida and about the same temperature as interior and Northern South Florida. Brevard County, Fl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsn Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Jimbeam, Why would you be surprised by anything the weathermen do or say? Sorry but starting with the 7 day forecast which was very gloomy and cold. It has been revised UP almost every day ,until today! Now a day before the event they are back to GLOOM and DOOM! And Accuweather which was way lower than anybody else for me. Is now predicting the highest temps for the two nights starting Tuesday night/Wednesday morning 40F next night 36F Weather predictions, gota love em! ??? Scott Titusville, FL 1/2 mile from the Indian River USDA Zone COLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskinPalms Posted December 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 NWS/NOAA has dropped me down to 25F now. Crap. They also have lowered the wind speed to a 10mph north northeast wind. My garden is going to look a lot different in a few days. I will be making a trip to the dump for sure Parrish, FL Zone 9B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happ Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 (ruskinPalms @ Dec. 31 2007,13:09)QUOTEI took plenty of prefreeze pictures of the garden today. This may be as exotic as it ever looks as things that croak are going to be replaced with cold hardy species that can truly take 9B without visible damage or with just very minimal visible damage. I am not looking forward to chocolate brown blow torched palms for the rest of this winter and spring just to find out they didn't make when they don't come back by the middle of the summer. 27F with or without wind is cold enough to kill outright a good portion of my garden WoW good luck Bill Garden looks great in early winter only to turn brownish [the process is gradual in SoCalifornia & can be abrupt in Florida. How about showing some "prefreeze" photos? Los Angeles/Pasadena 34° 10' N 118° 18' W Elevation: 910'/278m January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm USDA 11/Sunset 23 http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 (Jimbean @ Dec. 31 2007,13:54)QUOTEI surprised that they are predicting a ~10 F difference for me to the rest of Central Florida and about the same temperature as interior and Northern South Florida. NWS has revised everyone down. I just checked the east coast on the coast all the way to Stuart and the forecasts show numbers right around freezing or a little below most everywhere except the barrier islands. However, if the winds blow as they are supposed to (N/NE), then I would suspect the east coast would stay warmer than the west coast to some degree at the same latitude. Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 (ruskinPalms @ Dec. 31 2007,14:44)QUOTENWS/NOAA has dropped me down to 25F now. Crap. They also have lowered the wind speed to a 10mph north northeast wind. My garden is going to look a lot different in a few days. I will be making a trip to the dump for sure Ahhh....dont worry just yet Bill. 1) Maybe it wont get as cold as forecast. They are usually wrong one way or the other. 2) Maybe we will all be surprised at which plants comes through OK even if it does freeze. Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amazondk Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Bill, That is depressing. I hope things happen with the least amount of damage. I can remember what that is like. But, I never had it too extreme as I lived in East Fort Lauderdale. Here it has been raining and raining more. I guess that is what it is supposed to do in a rain forest. There is so much moisture circulating aournd from the forest, rivers and the atmosphere that all it takes is for the sun to come out for a while and then it clouds up again and rains. When the sun appears the temperatures jump from the low 80's F to the 90's in no time at all. It rained a lot this afternoon and it is now quite cool at 73F at 4PM. That is something a bit rare as this is the normal night time low. dk Don Kittelson LIFE ON THE RIO NEGRO 03° 06' 07'' South 60° 01' 30'' West Altitude 92 Meters / 308 feet above sea level 1,500 kms / 932 miles to the mouth of the Amazon River Manaus, Amazonas, Brazil - A Cidade da Floresta Where the world´s largest Tropical Rainforest embraces the Greatest Rivers in the World. . Click here to visit Amazonas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskinPalms Posted December 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Well, for some reason my camera did not save all the pictures I took today. I'll have to take some tomorrow with a different memory card. A few did save though: Coconut, Royal etc.: Nice reddish emerging spear on A. alexandrae: Freeze protection for the front landscaping bed: I was going to buy frost cloth but it was ridiculously expensive so I bought some rolls of weed fabric that is supposted to be laid down under mulch. We'll see how it works if it does not blow away. Those are bottle palms bound and wrapped with several layers of the stuff with mulch piled around the bottle bases. If I can keep the growth bud from freezing, they might have a chance. By the way, the bed has P. xanadu, Ixora sp. and Crotons. I like the way it looks so I hope I can keep some of the ground heat trapped there to keep them alive. Again, this stuff may very well blow away. I have several "landscape staples" pushed through the fabric into the ground to hold it in place, but I have my doubts it is going to stay put in 30 mph winds. Parrish, FL Zone 9B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskinPalms Posted December 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 By the way Jeffrey in Apollo Beach, it was nice to meet you today. And good luck!!! Parrish, FL Zone 9B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskinPalms Posted January 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Some "fun" forcast lows for wednesday night in FL cities at of the time of this post (source NWS/NOAA): Naples: 34F Fort Myers: 28F Sebring: 24F Sarasota: 30F Ruskin: 28F Apollo Beach:28F St. Petersburg: 35F Tampa: 25F Tarpon Springs: 30F Brookesville: 18F Orlando: 26F Gainesville: 19F Tallahassee: 22F Panama City: 26F Panama City Beach: 29F Destin: 26F Jacksonville: 24F Daytona Beach: 29F Cape Canaveral: 34F Cocoa Beach: 33F Port St. Lucie: 33F West Palm Beach: 35F Palm Beach: 43F Miami: 40F Miami Beach: 43F Marathon: 48F Key West: 50F Not FL (source Wunderground): Havana, Cuba: 46F Nassau, Bahamas: 55F Parrish, FL Zone 9B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Bill- Thanks for posting that summary of forecasts. It will serve as a permanent record of where the forecasts were at this time to which we can refer back to after the fact to check accuracy. I am sure GSN will be doing this for us....hehehehehe Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 (ruskinPalms @ Dec. 31 2007,19:43)QUOTEHavana, Cuba: 46F Now we know this front is the reaL deal...... Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsn Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 (spockvr6 @ Dec. 31 2007,20:41)QUOTEBill- Thanks for posting that summary of forecasts. It will serve as a permanent record of where the forecasts were at this time to which we can refer back to after the fact to check accuracy. I am sure GSN will be doing this for us....hehehehehe Larry, Contrary to popular belief I have nothing against weathermen! I just wish they would acknowledge that their predictions, are only educated guesses and not sceince! :: Plus every once and awhile, admitting that they completely blew the forecast,rather then continuing on to the next days forecast guesses, as if they were completly right about yesterdays! ??? Scott Titusville, FL 1/2 mile from the Indian River USDA Zone COLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubTropicRay Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 I'll be having a sale at the house this spring. If it moves, you can make me an offer. I'll also be looking for another hobby and dissapearing from this forum soon. Even though I've been through this before, it seems to get more difficult instead of easier. Some things lose their luster after fighting too many battles. Happy trails and look for my sale notice in a couple of months. Tampa, Interbay Peninsula, Florida, USA subtropical USDA Zone 10A Bokeelia, Pine Island, Florida, USA subtropical USDA Zone 10B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galveston1602 Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Well, Heres to hoping that 08 isnt the year that we return to the 80's hopefully mother nature isnt dyslexic... Were showing 38 and 37 over the next 2 nights nothing too bad but I wouldnt be surprised at all if we get really close to 32 on thursday night.... Allen Galveston Island Tx 9a/9b 8' Elevation Sandy Soil Jan Avgs 50/62 Jul Avgs 80/89 Average Annual Rainfall 43.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Oh boy! As of this AM for 34689---- Weather.com - 28F NWS - 30F Accuweather - 34F Weatherunderground - 25F Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyFl Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 (Ray @ Tampa,Jan. 01 2008,01:42)QUOTEI'll be having a sale at the house this spring. If it moves, you can make me an offer. I'll also be looking for another hobby and dissapearing from this forum soon. Even though I've been through this before, it seems to get more difficult instead of easier. Some things lose their luster after fighting too many battles. Happy trails and look for my sale notice in a couple of months. I just hope it won't come to that. St. Pete Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10 Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbean Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 NWS 31 Weatherundergroud 31 Accuweather 36 Weather.com 34 Brevard County, Fl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbean Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 (ruskinPalms @ Dec. 31 2007,14:44)QUOTENWS/NOAA has dropped me down to 25F now. Crap. They also have lowered the wind speed to a 10mph north northeast wind. My garden is going to look a lot different in a few days. I will be making a trip to the dump for sure wow that sucks good luck! Brevard County, Fl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happ Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Really hoping all goes well in Florida [palm paradise for contiguous US December wasn't particularly balmy in California though nothing too extreme DEC 2007 AVE MAX: 67.0 NORM: 70F/21c AVE MIN: 49.2 NORM: 50F/10c Hi Max: 84F lo Max: 58F Hi Min: 62F lo Min: 44F RAINFALL: 2.41 [Rainyear Jul/Jun: 5.09 Los Angeles/Pasadena 34° 10' N 118° 18' W Elevation: 910'/278m January Average Hi/Lo: 69F/50F July Average Hi/Lo: 88F/66F Average Rainfall: 19"/48cm USDA 11/Sunset 23 http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/queryF?MTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Forecasts for Wed night in 34689 as of 830PM tonight--- weather.com - 30F NWS - 33F accuweather.com- 34F weatherunderground.com - 27F Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spockvr6 Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 It looks like most of the forecasts have backed off tonights cold and its not looking quite so miserable. This AM is far warmer here than forecast as the winds have thus far stayed from the N with a slight NW component. Larry Palm Harbor, FL 10a / Ft Myers, FL 10b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyFl Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 That's true - it didn't get as cold as forecast. It was 53 here and downtown St. Pete had 52. Wasn't that wind something? Everything was blowing around out there. Anyway, maybe there's reason for optimism tonight? They're still forecasting our low will be 34. Immokalee's low is forecast to be 30; Everglades City to be 31 - they're under freeze warning but we only have a watch. But regardless, we're going to leave the water dripping tonight so the pipes don't freeze. St. Pete Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10 Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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