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For those who love Phoenix canariensis

Tyrone

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Tyrone Grand Master

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Was walking in Fremantle yesterday on our way to a The The concert and took a picture of these old CIDPs.

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

Tyrone Grand Master

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And same palms at night. 

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

ahosey01 Grand Master

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I don't know anything about Australian religious history so I'm making an assumption but is that a Catholic Church?

In Arizona you find a lot of these big, old canaries where there are or were old Catholic Churches.  Same deal right by my old house:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9705336,-112.732393,3a,75y,193.58h,96.19t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sr5PL39jNuJi3rzvjm-sDGQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-6.194674995511647%26panoid%3Dr5PL39jNuJi3rzvjm-sDGQ%26yaw%3D193.5784656080346!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTEyNC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

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7 hours ago, ahosey01 said:

I don't know anything about Australian religious history so I'm making an assumption but is that a Catholic Church?

In Arizona you find a lot of these big, old canaries where there are or were old Catholic Churches.  Same deal right by my old house:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9705336,-112.732393,3a,75y,193.58h,96.19t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sr5PL39jNuJi3rzvjm-sDGQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-6.194674995511647%26panoid%3Dr5PL39jNuJi3rzvjm-sDGQ%26yaw%3D193.5784656080346!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTEyNC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t Phoenix canariensis one of the plants brought by Spanish missionaries in the colonial period to specifically plant at mission sites? 

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ahosey01 Grand Master

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1 hour ago, NC_Palms said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn’t Phoenix canariensis one of the plants brought by Spanish missionaries in the colonial period to specifically plant at mission sites? 

That seems like a profoundly Spanish-missionary kind of a thing to do.  I have no primary source knowledge of this but feel comfortable saying "yeah they definitely did that" lol 🤣

Tyrone Grand Master

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11 hours ago, ahosey01 said:

I don't know anything about Australian religious history so I'm making an assumption but is that a Catholic Church?

In Arizona you find a lot of these big, old canaries where there are or were old Catholic Churches.  Same deal right by my old house:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9705336,-112.732393,3a,75y,193.58h,96.19t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sr5PL39jNuJi3rzvjm-sDGQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-6.194674995511647%26panoid%3Dr5PL39jNuJi3rzvjm-sDGQ%26yaw%3D193.5784656080346!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTEyNC4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

Yes it is a Catholic Church. I don’t know the significance of that but there are a fair few around Fremantle and quite a few CIDP as well but these seem some of the oldest. Just at a guess more than a century old. Could have been germinated in the early 1900s at a guess. Fremantle took off with buildings and wealth in the late 1800s with the gold rush. It basically was the gateway to the goldfields back then. I love the vibe of Fremantle having kept a lot of its old heritage alive. It also was the host of the infamous convict prison that changed little until it was closed in 1991. This place has a strong convict heritage. 

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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17 hours ago, Tyrone said:

Was walking in Fremantle yesterday on our way to a The The concert and took a picture of these old CIDPs.

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Looks like Palm Drive in Beverly Hills, only much nicer!

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4 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

Looks like Palm Drive in Beverly Hills, only much nicer!

Also, that pic should be in the Palm Shadows thread that was circulating recently!

South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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Post that picture of the shadow in the post a week ago about palm shadows.

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Here’s a nice one @Tyrone in Grafton my home town pretty well mush the same story of how it became planted now part of the history of the CIDP in Australia.

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Is this a true CIDP? The trunk looks a bit slender! Tree next to it Jacaranda?

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I think the slender look is because of the height . They are actually pretty beefy . We have some pretty old ones around here , in Southern California , that look slender until you stand right next to them. Harry

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Healthy Cidps gotta be one of the best looking palms around. Sadly many get butchered by ignorant landscapers. A cidp at some nearby car dealership had a nice full crown, then it got overtrimmed, and now it’s dying of fusarium or lb 😒.

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7 hours ago, wimmie said:

Is this a true CIDP? The trunk looks a bit slender! Tree next to it Jacaranda?

It could be the angle and from a distance it looks thinner.

Jonathan Veteran

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7 hours ago, wimmie said:

Is this a true CIDP? The trunk looks a bit slender! Tree next to it Jacaranda?

It looks like one to me...an old one at that.

I can't think of a Phoenix sp hybrid which would result in a fuller crown than a pure CIDP plus a skinny trunk. The trunk looks normal to me for a very tall canariensis.

The tree next to it is a Jacaranda, Grafton is famous in Australia for its amazing display of streets lined with jacarandas...very beautiful.

 

South Arm, Tasmania, Australia - 42° South

Mild oceanic climate, with coastal exposure.

 

Summer: 12°C (53°F) average min, to 21°C (70°F) average daily max. Up to 40°C (104°F max) rarely.

 

Winter: 6°C (43°F) average min, to 13°C (55°F) average daily max. Down to 0°C (32°F) occasionally, some light frost.

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It is indeed in Grafton a city worth visiting for the jacaranda trees and the jacaranda festival absolutely beautiful the town of purple flowers. Also there are. Very mature rather large pecan trees planted in places around the town along with one of the best places to see huge Bowen mango trees planted in great droves all over the town. In a dry season when they are flowering it’s mango city, there is also lots of huge fig trees planted around town, with fig avenue being a must see cathedral of fig trees for hundreds of meters down the street completely covering street in a dome of fig trees. Then the white jacaranda trees a few are  planted around town. A very historical cit6 with a lot of historical trees well worth seeing. Especially in jacaranda season. Oh and the palm has a rather large base with a trunk tapering off the taller it gets.

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