Palm id needed please Dypsis?

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I need some identification as to this palm it’s a dypsis I know that supposedly the seller sold them as dypsis ambositrae and also as dypsis ambositrae wild collected I I planted it some 22 years ago and to my understanding it was a dypsis ambositrae which we now know as dypsis plumosa so it is definitely not a plumosa so I thought  it was a dysis baronii then some discussion on palm talk led me down another route as to it being a dypsis ambositrae wild collected var fine leaf so now iam even more confused it’s definitely not a plumosa or baronii has a yellow colour to them where as this one is white or is it a baronii growing in shade thanks in advance it’s a mystery to me now.

[Brian]

It looks like Dypsis lanceolata to me. (Chrysalidocarpus lanceolata)

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38 minutes ago, Brian said:

It looks like Dypsis lanceolata to me. (Chrysalidocarpus lanceolata)

I have dypsis lanceolata they look totally different when I compare the two.

[TomJ]

I can't really see the leaves well, but from the trunks I would say Dypsis Onilahensis.

Just a guess.... Especially if it was a fast grow

[PJM]

Is it also known as a cane palm?

[Dypsisdean]

I have this same palm. And it was labeled as Dypsis ambositrae many years ago as a seedling - but certainly is not. But I can’t tell you what it really is.

I have over a dozen of these moderate clumping Dypsis (Chrysalidocarpus) and IMO it is different from all of them. I have never seen another in person, and only a few in photos (most in Oz). I wouldn’t be surprised if it was as yet an unnamed species. 

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6 hours ago, TomJ said:

I can't really see the leaves well, but from the trunks I would say Dypsis Onilahensis.

Just a guess.... Especially if it was a fast grow

I have onilahansis it doesn’t compare to the one in question 

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2 hours ago, Dypsisdean said:

I have this same palm. And it was labeled as Dypsis ambositrae many years ago as a seedling - but certainly is not. But I can’t tell you what it really is.

I have over a dozen of these moderate clumping Dypsis (Chrysalidocarpus) and IMO it is different from all of them. I have never seen another in person, and only a few in photos (most in Oz). I wouldn’t be surprised if it was as yet an unnamed species. 

So it gets more confusing I have two in my garden it’s definitely a dypsis i know that much possibly unnamed species the jury is still out I will see what the Australian opinion is as it seems there are a few of them in Australia but it certainly helps to know you have it as well where on the right track with the ambositrae lead when it flowers that may definitely be a help it hasn’t flowered yet so in time we may unfold the mystery dypsis thanks for the information.

[Tyrone]

Hey Richard, I don’t know what it is, but I remember seeing one like it at Rosebud Farm in Rich’s garden and at Flecker BG. It could very well be undescribed. It’s growing beautifully at your place. 

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4 minutes ago, Tyrone said:

Hey Richard, I don’t know what it is, but I remember seeing one like it at Rosebud Farm in Rich’s garden and at Flecker BG. It could very well be undescribed. It’s growing beautifully at your place. 

Hi Tyrone I did get it from rosebud farm originally so now it’s the million dollar question again what is it I guess have to wait for it to flower cheers.

[tim_brissy_13]

I’ve got a feeling @richnorm will be able to shed some light on the subject and ID Richard. From memory, there were a few different palms which came in as D ambositrae years ago. They turned out to be true C ambositrae, C baronii var kindreo (or just sp kindreo), and maybe some others including a flat leaf/upright onilahensis (?). And then there also the confusion of plumosa and sp. bef but I don’t think this palm is either of those. Also don’t think it’s true ambositrae. I’ve never seen a kindreo in person but could be that? I think there might also be some thought that the flat leaf onilahensis is really C ambositrae x onilahensis but I’ll let others comment. 

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2 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

I’ve got a feeling @richnorm will be able to shed some light on the subject and ID Richard. From memory, there were a few different palms which came in as D ambositrae years ago. They turned out to be true C ambositrae, C baronii var kindreo (or just sp kindreo), and maybe some others including a flat leaf/upright onilahensis (?). And then there also the confusion of plumosa and sp. bef but I don’t think this palm is either of those. Also don’t think it’s true ambositrae. I’ve never seen a kindreo in person but could be that? I think there might also be some thought that the flat leaf onilahensis is really C ambositrae x onilahensis but I’ll let others comment. 

Now it gets a bigger mystery it did come from rosebud farm so the origin of the seed plant source was a reputable source which did have some original confusion with the mystery of the plumosa var being sold as ambositrae from rosebud i never seen rosebud with sp kindreo it’s not a real ambositrae or is it a onilahensis cross ambositrae I guess  waiting for it to flower might answer the question 

[Tyrone]

I did buy some “ambositrae” from Rosebud in the 2000s (which sadly I no longer have) which looked like what others have called sp kindreo at least when young. It could be a mature version of that. 

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2 hours ago, Tyrone said:

I did buy some “ambositrae” from Rosebud in the 2000s (which sadly I no longer have) which looked like what others have called sp kindreo at least when young. It could be a mature version of that. 

I have never heard of kindreo might have to try research that one if it flowers i will hit Bill baker up on id.

[Frond-friend42]

I noticed Mayotte has a whitish coloring round the crown. Could it be that?

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54 minutes ago, Frond-friend42 said:

I noticed Mayotte has a whitish coloring round the crown. Could it be that?

Thanks I will have a look at that one the main lead is ambositrae wild collected but possibly it could be another species