Is it possible to grow Jubea chilensis or Canary Island date palm as house plants?

[Colin1110082]

Hello, could I grow these as house plants and which of the two is more hardy? Thank you.

[Scott W]

I'd have to vote no...way to large.

[Colin1110082]

24 minutes ago, Scott W said:

I'd have to vote no...way to large.

Yeah that’s what I thought.. which one out of the two is more hardy? I heard Jubea can go to 10 degrees?

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32 minutes ago, Colin1110082 said:

Yeah that’s what I thought.. which one out of the two is more hardy? I heard Jubea can go to 10 degrees?

I feel like it depends on the location for both of these palms when it comes to how low they can take

[Scott W]

6 hours ago, Colin1110082 said:

Yeah that’s what I thought.. which one out of the two is more hardy? I heard Jubea can go to 10 degrees?

The Jubaea, but that wouldn't matter if you were growing indoors.

[Harry’s Palms]

I think the larger palms like this require a very robust root system. It would be difficult to maintain the right environment in a pot. It may work but only temporarily, they want room for large root mass. Harry

[SeanK]

10°F if the afternoon goes above freezing. So, intermediate desert.

[Chester B]

10 hours ago, Colin1110082 said:

Yeah that’s what I thought.. which one out of the two is more hardy? I heard Jubea can go to 10 degrees?

Don't look at those minimum numbers they are always under ideal conditions.  Ie:  Dry leading up to the cold, dry during, dry after,  no wind, full sun, 10F for like a minute and daytime highs rebounding well above freezing.

Realistically there are only a handful of palms that can take freezing temps for a few days, and I mean just below freezing.

[Chester B]

I did have a CIDP in a pot for a few years, when I lived in a non palm growing zone.  I'd drag it out to the pool for about half the year and the other half I had it in a sunroom.  I kept it pretty dry so I'm sure that slowed the growth down.  However it still wanted to grow and after 3 years it was getting more difficult to move even with a dolly.  If you want an indoor palm go for a Kentia.

[Joe NC]

While ultimately an absolutely massive palm, I suspect if you successfully kept a seedling Jubaea alive as a house plant its growth would be monumentally slow.

Even under perfect conditions outdoors, it takes a Jubaea 10-15 years from seed to get to a size that would be large for a houseplant. (15 gallon pot size?)

If you kept it alive indoors as a house plant, I imagine it would be decades from now before you had to worry about it being even approaching too big.

My thoughts are... can't hurt to try, but don't expect much.  Also hedge your palmy bets and also grow something better suited for houseplant life, like the Kentia as mentioned above or a Rhapis. 

[SeanK]

10°F quoted in-sitio, NOT for a potted plant with roots exposed to air at that temp.

Kentias, Spindles, Rhapis - all do well in planters indoors.

[jwitt]

CIDP has been documented to have survived back to back nights of -10f, preceded by rain/snow, with wind and highs below 15f. 

Multiple specimens unprotected 

Not recommended for household 

 Juvenile Jubeaua below

[Joe NC]

2 hours ago, jwitt said:

Juvenile Jubeaua below

Yes,  Jubaea can live to be 1,000 years old and they are considered juvenile (not fruiting) for the first 40-50 years. 

If you were to successfully keep a Jubaea as a sad houseplant for 50 years, I would not expect it to be a fraction of this size. 

So, yeah even a though juvenile Jubaea is still ridiculously huge... I'm saying that keeping it as a houseplant would probably slow it's already slow growth down to a crawl.

So best case, it is super happy in your house and grows a the same rate it would outside in ideal conditions. You will have an awkwardly large houseplant you need to deal with in 10-15 years. (still a fraction of the size of the plants in the photo above)

Worst case, it absolutely hates houseplant life and rots nearly immediately. 

Either way you wont need to cut your roof off and move some giant palm out with a crane.

[jwitt]

@Colin1110082I cannot answer the houseplant question. I have not heard of either being grown as houseplants.  Does not mean it can't be done.  They both do become massive. 

In the US

Jubeaua has survived 0f

CIDP has survived -10f(in all thruthfullness probably lower)

[Las Palmas Norte]

Is it possible to grow Jubea chilensis or Canary Island date palm as house plants?

 

How big's your house? 😁

[Chester B]

It's difficult to give a Jubaea enough light indoors to keep it happy.  I grew seedlings inside and they were finicky and tended to be stretched.

[SeanK]

3 hours ago, jwitt said:

@Colin1110082I cannot answer the houseplant question. I have not heard of either being grown as houseplants.  Does not mean it can't be done.  They both do become massive. 

In the US

Jubea has survived 0°F

CIDP has survived -10°f(in all thruthfullness probably lower)

I dunno. A lot of losses in Texas a couple winters back.

[jwitt]

1 hour ago, SeanK said:

I dunno. A lot of losses in Texas a couple winters back.

Actually, I think the consensus was they are hardier than thought,  and that most survived the 2021 event.  Even some in the Dallas area. 

Maybe I am mistaken. 

Talking about CIDP.

[AlligatorDave]

Sunlight, sunlight, sunlight! Can it grow indoors? Without sufficient sunlight(or sufficient proper spectrum artificial light) nothing grows(except mushrooms or mold). I’m certain both species are on the top of “needs lots of sun” list than many if not most palms. Growing it a south facing sunroom, at a reasonable temp, jubaea or CIDP will even grow in Alaska. If you have the proper conditions, go for it! 
When it gets too big, you can give it to me, I’ll replace it with a small one. 😁

[Colin1110082]

Thank you for all the answers! My house is small so I’m gonna defiantly scrap this idea!! 😂 

[Las Palmas Norte]

In the "Palms in Pots" forum here, there maybe some suggestions for good indoor palms. Time for plan B.