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Some Washy volunteers. Sadly they're growing underneath a tree.20240506_110150.thumb.jpg.121fceeeadb2cc0392b85fc7cfe4d946.jpg20240506_110205.thumb.jpg.7e364fa180049004519d5306a390ceea.jpgA Robusta from the looks of it since it has its redness and skinnier than a Filifera. Planted sometime around late 2022 or early 2023.20240506_110130.thumb.jpg.9c172f750bee1b2e7deac5e3879f269f.jpgSome new Washies to replace the Robustas that froze in 2021. Planted around 2023.20240506_105952.thumb.jpg.e4c7756d2b84d5955706fa193289fe49.jpg

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Found this beauty had given up. Not sure how long it’s been dead but it snapped at almost the thickest part. They’re lucky it fell towards the street. 

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1 hour ago, Chester B said:

Found this beauty had given up. Not sure how long it’s been dead but it snapped at almost the thickest part. They’re lucky it fell towards the street. 

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lol rip 

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On 5/2/2024 at 11:50 PM, PA-TX2024 said:

Some plantings of Washys at an HEB parking lot. Possibly guerilla planted.20240502_144032.thumb.jpg.c25df6d754bc1f65c53f8c0de60f2dda.jpg

I planted them a year ago. I went around town throwing seeds around. I’ve done this several time. Some of my palms are huge. If you see a Washingtonia around NB just randomly growing somewhere, chances are I planted it. 
 

I don’t get on the forum much anymore. Welcome to NB.  I know where all the palms are. Prior to 2021 there were huge Robusta everywhere. Almost all were killed excepts some Robusta leaning hybrids. I knew of some 60-70 footers that were lost. There’s still a handful of big ones but you have to know where to look. 

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On 5/6/2024 at 12:02 PM, PA-TX2024 said:

Some Washy volunteers. Sadly they're growing underneath a tree.20240506_110150.thumb.jpg.121fceeeadb2cc0392b85fc7cfe4d946.jpg20240506_110205.thumb.jpg.7e364fa180049004519d5306a390ceea.jpgA Robusta from the looks of it since it has its redness and skinnier than a Filifera. Planted sometime around late 2022 or early 2023.20240506_110130.thumb.jpg.9c172f750bee1b2e7deac5e3879f269f.jpgSome new Washies to replace the Robustas that froze in 2021. Planted around 2023.20240506_105952.thumb.jpg.e4c7756d2b84d5955706fa193289fe49.jpg

Where are these palms. Looks similar to my seedlings. I threw them in rock beds and flower beds around town. I did it in Creekside town center and had hundreds of them coming up. Someone came through and removed every last one of them. 

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On 5/3/2024 at 8:05 PM, Ben G. said:

I went to the river walk tonight with my family. We weren't there on a plant spotting trip, but I did spot a couple of interesting finds that I thought I would post.

First I found a nice livistona (decipiens?) by the river city mall. It looks like it has self seeded at least once since I found a small livistona below it. It also has quite a bit of seed at the moment. A few of them even fell into my pocket. ;)

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That Livistona decora (formerly decipiens) is in a good microclimate and survived February 2021.  There were a couple of others that were more exposed and probably didn't make it.

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New to me Pindo. This will replace the one I left behind in Oregon. Hopefully it will take less than 7 years to get as big. 

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On 4/29/2024 at 6:56 PM, Chester B said:

I completely agree with you.

I was going to take a comparison picture, but I realized that all of my potted S. minors are much older than my S. tamaulipas seedling.

I'll take a few pictures when the weather cooperates, but the Sabal tamaulipas seedling remind me of a vigorous, blue Sabal mexicana seedling.

Just my observation.

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8 hours ago, NBTX11 said:

I planted them a year ago. I went around town throwing seeds around. I’ve done this several time. Some of my palms are huge. If you see a Washingtonia around NB just randomly growing somewhere, chances are I planted it. 
 

I don’t get on the forum much anymore. Welcome to NB.  I know where all the palms are. Prior to 2021 there were huge Robusta everywhere. Almost all were killed excepts some Robusta leaning hybrids. I knew of some 60-70 footers that were lost. There’s still a handful of big ones but you have to know where to look. 

What type of Washingtonia are these?

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7 hours ago, NBTX11 said:

Where are these palms. Looks similar to my seedlings. I threw them in rock beds and flower beds around town. I did it in Creekside town center and had hundreds of them coming up. Someone came through and removed every last one of them. 

Top two are here, close to the DQ.Screenshot_20240508-193047_Maps.thumb.jpg.53fffde4ccc724537e75c7bbdc867f09.jpgThere are two volunteers at the DQ close to the Recreational Center. They were struggling last time I've seen them, but alive. The Washingtonia is dropping seeds there.Screenshot_20240508-193135_Maps.thumb.jpg.62960e56a1760f7653bb4fcc0c4af8db.jpgThis is where the next two Washingtonia are planted, in the lot of this place.Screenshot_20240508-193110_Maps.thumb.jpg.bf708a9e8252516e91601b464736b42e.jpg

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3 hours ago, PA-TX2024 said:

What type of Washingtonia are these?

I planted mainly Filifera although I have thrown around Robusta from time to time. If you see Filifera growing where there’s no parent tree I probably planted it. 

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At the St. Peter and Paul Catholic school on landa there are two Filifera I planted. There were about 25 of them but they pulled up all but two. If you see medium sized volunteers growing along i35 I planted them including the ones by Arby’s, valmark, and bluebonnet and many other places. 

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1 hour ago, NBTX11 said:

I planted it by throwing seeds. 

When you throw seeds, do you just simply throw ungerminated seeds into the dirt? I got some Filifera seeds from a Filifera growing in a parking lot close to a Super 8. I also have some Sabal Mexicana seeds in possession too.

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11 hours ago, PA-TX2024 said:

When you throw seeds, do you just simply throw ungerminated seeds into the dirt? I got some Filifera seeds from a Filifera growing in a parking lot close to a Super 8. I also have some Sabal Mexicana seeds in possession too.

In the fall, Filifera produce thousands of seeds. So, I cut off a few thousand seeds. Then I go around town throwing them into flower beds. They have to be thrown into mulch or rock beds to germinate usually. Yes, it is ungerminated seeds. 
 

I had hundreds of them growing in creekside across from Buc-ee’s but someone pulled out every last one. I planted the HEB ones you posted earlier. I did this about 10 years ago too, and those palms are huge now. I planted them all up and down I-35.  I planted the one by schlotsky deli on walnut by Walmart. I had a bunch growing at the Taco Bell but they pulled those up too. I just noticed one coming up at QT on 306 coming up yesterday. All the palms at the corner of Seguin st and business 35 by Jason’s deli I planted. Some of them are huge now. The big one growing by the car wash on bus 35 I planted maybe 12-15 years ago. 

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On 5/8/2024 at 11:31 AM, NBTX11 said:

I planted them a year ago. I went around town throwing seeds around. I’ve done this several time. Some of my palms are huge. If you see a Washingtonia around NB just randomly growing somewhere, chances are I planted it. 
 

I don’t get on the forum much anymore. Welcome to NB.  I know where all the palms are. Prior to 2021 there were huge Robusta everywhere. Almost all were killed excepts some Robusta leaning hybrids. I knew of some 60-70 footers that were lost. There’s still a handful of big ones but you have to know where to look. 

Was about time you get back on here James lol. 

Some of the seeds you gave me I spread out in the yard . I finally saw some of them growing out of the flower beds we have.  My wife wasn't too amused about that lol. 

Here are your Filiferas I'm recently growing.  Pictures are like a week old 20240504_195644.thumb.jpg.df4aae39a38243d6353e31f22ec37dad.jpg

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Just now, MarcusH said:

Was about time you get back on here James lol. 

Some of the seeds you gave me I spread out in the yard . I finally saw some of them growing out of the flower beds we have.  My wife wasn't too amused about that lol. 

Here are your Filiferas I'm recently growing.  Pictures are like a week old 20240504_195644.thumb.jpg.df4aae39a38243d6353e31f22ec37dad.jpg

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Took a trip over to the Leon Valley area today for a visit to Palm Buddha. I talked to a few workers who were friendly and knowledgeable, and I took a few pictures.

 

They had a nice selection of mules if one is brave enough to buy one this large.

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I liked the silver med fans a lot, and what looked like Braheas

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Was this an Arenga of some kind? It looked like one to me, but I don't know them well enough to be sure.

 

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On 5/3/2024 at 8:13 PM, PA-TX2024 said:

Google Maps, March 2022. Most Robustas and Phoenix genus palms in this lot here survived the freeze. A couple causualties here but the survivors are still standing even today and growing strong.  I've seen them recently too.Screenshot_20240503-200435_Maps.thumb.jpg.3b9f4630d56d74a37af1d98e81fe25ed.jpg

Here are the pure Robustas on May 11, 2024, New Braunfels, TX. Still nice and healthy. They also have dropped seeds in the area, so there are some volunteers growing too.20240511_143202.thumb.jpg.c4e0e94213d8b9a7f3e811d2a90d09f4.jpg20240511_143315.thumb.jpg.4b2613fb03d55e12811f8c200c86d0c5.jpg

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Here's the Robusta volunteers.20240511_143426.thumb.jpg.83fa4eddeca669733ca23ae6c63fed06.jpg20240511_143521.thumb.jpg.40cc6dc1753e50f5fa30a047bf377d38.jpg20240511_143656.thumb.jpg.c933bba3e0a05151004443fb8ad820f5.jpg20240511_143723.thumb.jpg.ae8599a98f425c3d907eff6fe1f332b1.jpg20240511_143741.thumb.jpg.03b3635ea7f524a54a21b26ecb4c4ea9.jpg20240511_143749.thumb.jpg.c3e8acc8b8805e606f318d4caa0ecbca.jpg

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On 5/10/2024 at 4:10 PM, Ben G. said:

Was this an Arenga of some kind? It looked like one to me, but I don't know them well enough to be sure.

 

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I don't know but PalmBuddha has a great selection of palms. I nearly bought a mule palm from them but I decided to buy a Butia 

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On 5/8/2024 at 11:35 PM, NBTX11 said:

I planted it by throwing seeds. 

Update: I've managed to throw hundreds of seeds so far (specifically Sabal Mexicana and Washingtonia Filifera). Some close to the HEB at the eastern part of town, some at the northwestern part of town where another HEB is at, plus the surrounding garden area, and some parts of downtown too. I've also seen some new Washies growing at St Joseph Center too. I assume you planted those?

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3 hours ago, PA-TX2024 said:

Update: I've managed to throw hundreds of seeds so far (specifically Sabal Mexicana and Washingtonia Filifera). Some close to the HEB at the eastern part of town, some at the northwestern part of town where another HEB is at, plus the surrounding garden area, and some parts of downtown too. I've also seen some new Washies growing at St Joseph Center too. I assume you planted those?

Yes, I planted them. Last year I took thousands and thousands of seeds, enough to fill a very large pot and threw them around town. I’ve done this in years past and many are huge now. Like I said, I had hundreds of them growing at Creekside. Someone pulled up every last one. I recommend you throw them in fast food restaurant and gas station flower beds and rock beds. You can’t throw it directly into the grass because it usually don’t come up then. Throw where there is mulch or rocks. Some will come up. Some people will cut them down but a lot will let them grow. 

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Planted a double trunk Bismarck I was lucky enough to find at Lowe’s in Pearland yesterday;) she’s super silver 😍😍😍

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Galveston 5-14-24 :) 

The handful of Bismarcks look okay/ sad lol 

quick stop to moody gardens typical early summer vibes 

 

and a unfortunate Dactylifera that broke during the  storms … 

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On 5/10/2024 at 4:10 PM, Ben G. said:

Was this an Arenga of some kind? It looked like one to me, but I don't know them well enough to be sure.

 

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Yes, looks like the more common Arenga engleri.  Nice find, not many available for us.  Did Palm Buddha have any Chamaedorea radicalis?  I gave the owner a few of my extra seedlings a few years ago hoping he'd make them available.  He had never heard of them before.

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9 hours ago, Cade said:

Planted a double trunk Bismarck I was lucky enough to find at Lowe’s in Pearland yesterday;) she’s super silver 😍😍😍

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I saw some double bizzies at Lowe's here too.  Not sure how they would look once they get big.  And they do get big!  They will be competing with each other for water and nutrients.  Glad you didn't try to separate them - that would've likely killed them both!  Looking good!

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1 hour ago, Fusca said:

Yes, looks like the more common Arenga engleri.  Nice find, not many available for us.  Did Palm Buddha have any Chamaedorea radicalis?  I gave the owner a few of my extra seedlings a few years ago hoping he'd make them available.  He had never heard of them before.

Thanks for the Arenga ID. 

I didn't see any C. radicalis while I was there. I looked around a lot, but I could have missed something.  In fact, I ordered some radicalis seeds just a few days ago. I have one mature non-trunking specimen already. I have had it for a decade or so, but is has spent about half of that time in the ground and half in pots.

It survived multiple Oklahoma winters in the ground with nothing but a bucket for cover during snow or ice. It ended up defoliating every winter it stayed in the ground, but it grew a full crown during each of the subsequent growing seasons. (Not hard, since that is only four or five fronds)

Now that I am in TX, I want to sprout some more of them so I can fill in some shadier beds. I also want to start getting some viable seed. Mine has flowered many times, but of course no viable seed all by itself.

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3 hours ago, Ben G. said:

Thanks for the Arenga ID. 

I didn't see any C. radicalis while I was there. I looked around a lot, but I could have missed something.  In fact, I ordered some radicalis seeds just a few days ago. I have one mature non-trunking specimen already. I have had it for a decade or so, but is has spent about half of that time in the ground and half in pots.

It survived multiple Oklahoma winters in the ground with nothing but a bucket for cover during snow or ice. It ended up defoliating every winter it stayed in the ground, but it grew a full crown during each of the subsequent growing seasons. (Not hard, since that is only four or five fronds)

Now that I am in TX, I want to sprout some more of them so I can fill in some shadier beds. I also want to start getting some viable seed. Mine has flowered many times, but of course no viable seed all by itself.

If he planted them they'd probably be flowering by now but maybe they were all the same gender.  The last time I was there the only Chamaedorea he had were cataractarum in his shade house.  Radicalis can/should be grown all through the state south of the panhandle.  :)

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5 hours ago, Fusca said:

I saw some double bizzies at Lowe's here too.  Not sure how they would look once they get big.  And they do get big!  They will be competing with each other for water and nutrients.  Glad you didn't try to separate them - that would've likely killed them both!  Looking good!

Thanks I hope they don’t fight too much lol 

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Two Hyophorbe lagenicaulis planted just yesterday...

 

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2 hours ago, ahosey01 said:

Two Hyophorbe lagenicaulis planted just yesterday...

 

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Zone / city ? 😍

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4 minutes ago, Cade said:

Zone / city ? 😍

Zone 10a, Brownsville.  I just bought the house but I have hope the microclimate is pretty good.  There’s some big cook pines that don’t appear to have been nearly as damaged in 21 as the majority I see around here, all fairly close to my house.

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2 hours ago, ahosey01 said:

Zone 10a, Brownsville.  I just bought the house but I have hope the microclimate is pretty good.  There’s some big cook pines that don’t appear to have been nearly as damaged in 21 as the majority I see around here, all fairly close to my house.

I hope they work well for you. They are beautiful palms. I would probably try them too, if I were in your area.

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On 5/6/2024 at 12:02 PM, PA-TX2024 said:

Some Washy volunteers. Sadly they're growing underneath a tree.20240506_110150.thumb.jpg.121fceeeadb2cc0392b85fc7cfe4d946.jpg20240506_110205.thumb.jpg.7e364fa180049004519d5306a390ceea.jpgA Robusta from the looks of it since it has its redness and skinnier than a Filifera. Planted sometime around late 2022 or early 2023.20240506_110130.thumb.jpg.9c172f750bee1b2e7deac5e3879f269f.jpgSome new Washies to replace the Robustas that froze in 2021. Planted around 2023.20240506_105952.thumb.jpg.e4c7756d2b84d5955706fa193289fe49.jpg

Update: I've managed to dig out one of those growing in a bad spot and I plan to relocate it eventually. It needs to regrow some of its roots. Also I'm not sure what type of Washy this is.20240519_202254.thumb.jpg.5d54badffeb0c2652fa9acdc74c9e1f1.jpg

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