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My Jubea "Hug Me" palm has finally reached a milestone!

BS Man about Palms

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Some of you know I planted my Jubea maybe 18 years ago as a 4-5" plant.

I last updated it (and some old pics) over 10 years ago.

 

 

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

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I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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But I noticed it has "earned"  the pet name I gave to Jubeas years ago when I first saw large trunking ones...

Mine today.

 

 

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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And a bit closer to explain why I call them that... because as they start to trunk and get larger.. they shed their leaf bases and become a palm you can't resist HUGGING!!

 

I'm very happy my own Jubea is reaching "HUGABILITY"!! About 4' wide worth of wonderful palm to hold and cherish.

 

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I know there are pics of me doing the same... and others I know. 

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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Here's an old pic of my niece enjoying the Mission Bay Jubeas.. post yours if you can!

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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I found a hug!!

 

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Zone 10a at best after 2007 AND 2013, on SW facing hill, 1 1/2 miles from coast in Oceanside, CA. 30-98 degrees, and 45-80deg. about 95% of the time.

"The great workman of nature is time."   ,  "Genius is nothing but a great aptitude for patience."

-George-Louis Leclerc de Buffon-

I do some experiments and learning in my garden with palms so you don't have to experience the pain! Look at my old threads to find various observations and tips!

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The late Richard Douglas, past president of the IPS.  

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16 hours ago, BS Man about Palms said:

I'm very happy my own Jubea is reaching "HUGABILITY"!!

This is such a true statement about Jubaea's You can't help yourself and give them a hug , absolutely beautiful palms. I can only hope to get mine to your size one day. 

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On 9/2/2023 at 6:33 PM, Darold Petty said:

The late Richard Douglas, past president of the IPS.  

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That is a good picture of Jubaea trunk.  Base of trunk is wider at bottom, tapering going up the trunk.  Also the leaf scars at the bottom are stretched out horizontally and closer together, while leaf scars in the upper trunk are further apart and more normal to when the leaf fell off.  As the tree grows and adds weight the lower part of the trunk gets compressed and widens pushing the original leaf scars closer together vertically but stretching them out horizontally like putty.

Jubaea are probably the most massive of all palms, truly a heavyweight.

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7 hours ago, Banana Belt said:

That is a good picture of Jubaea trunk.  Base of trunk is wider at bottom, tapering going up the trunk.  Also the leaf scars at the bottom are stretched out horizontally and closer together, while leaf scars in the upper trunk are further apart and more normal to when the leaf fell off.  As the tree grows and adds weight the lower part of the trunk gets compressed and widens pushing the original leaf scars closer together vertically but stretching them out horizontally like putty.

Jubaea are probably the most massive of all palms, truly a heavyweight.

I don’t think that’s the mechanism to cause the wider base and closer leaf scars. As far as I know, palm trunks don’t compress under their own weight. The close leaf scars at the base is common with many species and die to palms putting more energy into frond production and gaining girth before going vertical. 

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On 9/2/2023 at 12:29 PM, BS Man about Palms said:

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On 9/2/2023 at 12:32 PM, BS Man about Palms said:

And a bit closer to explain why I call them that... because as they start to trunk and get larger.. they shed their leaf bases and become a palm you can't resist HUGGING!!

I was truly awestruck by your Jubea (as you could tell). Not *quite* to hugging state yet because of the leaf bases, but I actually love the look it's showing right now (with the fat trunk and fuzz around the leaf bases).  My overwhelming feeling when near yours was that I wanted to pull up a chair, and sit next to it... and just enjoy feeling "small".

But when the leaf bases are gone I'm sure I will want to come back and give 'em a hug. 🤗

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Please don't eat me Mr/Ms Jubaea! . . . .

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nice Bill

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On 9/4/2023 at 1:58 PM, tim_brissy_13 said:

I don’t think that’s the mechanism to cause the wider base and closer leaf scars. As far as I know, palm trunks don’t compress under their own weight. The close leaf scars at the base is common with many species and die to palms putting more energy into frond production and gaining girth before going vertical. 

One way to prove or disprove my theory, would be to actually measure the leaf scar patterns and trunk girth over the years of growth in addition to the new tissue being added from the perimeter roots at the base.  In any case it is only a postulated explanation. 

I base my theory mostly on the observation that leaf scars at the base of an older Jubaea  appear stretched out horizontally are much wider than any of the leaf fronds that came off during early trunk formation.  This I know because I still have the early leaf bases that came off my Jubaea 12 years ago and they are way shorter that the scars they came from.  Measurements that I have logged show the trunk has widened over these years. 

Additionally older leafs at the base of the canopy begin to detach first at the outer margins as the trunk expands eventually causing the leaf to detach.  Queen Palms to the same thing.

You may be correct that compression is not correct explanation, which I presume would mean that added tissue is.

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On 9/2/2023 at 12:43 PM, BS Man about Palms said:

Here's an old pic of my niece enjoying the Mission Bay Jubeas.. post yours if you can!

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These trunks are impressive! Pics from this morning.

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16 hours ago, Banana Belt said:

One way to prove or disprove my theory, would be to actually measure the leaf scar patterns and trunk girth over the years of growth in addition to the new tissue being added from the perimeter roots at the base.  In any case it is only a postulated explanation. 

I base my theory mostly on the observation that leaf scars at the base of an older Jubaea  appear stretched out horizontally are much wider than any of the leaf fronds that came off during early trunk formation.  This I know because I still have the early leaf bases that came off my Jubaea 12 years ago and they are way shorter that the scars they came from.  Measurements that I have logged show the trunk has widened over these years. 

Additionally older leafs at the base of the canopy begin to detach first at the outer margins as the trunk expands eventually causing the leaf to detach.  Queen Palms to the same thing.

You may be correct that compression is not correct explanation, which I presume would mean that added tissue is.

Girth definitely increases in nearly all species over time. If you measure the height of each leaf scar on the trunk over time, you’ll find it doesn’t change hence the mechanism is trunk expansion rather than compression. 

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On 9/3/2023 at 11:23 AM, BS Man about Palms said:

I found a hug!!

 

 

Here is a pic of me and my kids (the oldest of whom is now 21!) many years ago in CA hugging a nice specimen (in the Ruth Bancroft Gardens, I believe): No photo description available.

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awesome post bill. i thought you would at least post a pic of you hugging it since that is the theme of this post LOL 😁

me not hugging about 15 years ago at HBG:
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I can almost hug mine not yet though . Almost can stand under it for canopy !!! Got this guy from joempalma in a 24 in box about 5 years ago or so. Biggest and One of many jubaeas on the property ! 

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