flplantguy Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 My Floribunda order is on the way! Three boxes😳, coming tomorrow night. They will get a couple weeks worth of summer heat before it starts to cool to more typical temps they knew before. I have read plants remember heat stress for the future when it occurs again, so I'm hoping they get a taste and are ready in spring. I will be documenting their arrival and performance over time here while I prepare them for planting. Most are in pots already, but a few will be potted into a basic cactus and citrus mix while they adjust and I learn their quirks. I will show the successes and failures as well as what I think happened. Chime in if you have thoughts or questions and all advice is welcome! 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDave Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 33 minutes ago, flplantguy said: My Floribunda order is on the way! Three boxes😳, coming tomorrow night. They will get a couple weeks worth of summer heat before it starts to cool to more typical temps they knew before. I have read plants remember heat stress for the future when it occurs again, so I'm hoping they get a taste and are ready in spring. I will be documenting their arrival and performance over time here while I prepare them for planting. Most are in pots already, but a few will be potted into a basic cactus and citrus mix while they adjust and I learn their quirks. I will show the successes and failures as well as what I think happened. Chime in if you have thoughts or questions and all advice is welcome! You go! Maybe tell us what they are, and those of us with a bit of experience might be able to offer pointers. Let's keep our forum fun and friendly. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 22 Author Report Share Posted August 22 I'll post the full list when it's in, there were a few changes he recommended. In a nutshell, it was every chrysalidocarpus available and new Caledonian types with some others in the mix. I tried to pick what is successful in the San Diego area and Central/South Florida both since I get the heat and the chill between the two. I also added some hard to deny plants I just had to have lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanK Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 @flplantguy - Heat may be OK, but not the sun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looking Glass Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 Yeah. Watch out for that summer sun. Some of their selection need to be eased into Florida sun over months or even years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 23 Author Report Share Posted August 23 No sun at all for them, just the warmer temps after a few days in the house for observation. I have a nice shade patch for them outside too. Most will be planted in the shade too unless they are sun lovers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad52 Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 I think Jeff uses 60% shade cloth and the plants have likely not seen above 85-87 degrees so your plan sounds solid! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDave Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 9 hours ago, flplantguy said: I'll post the full list when it's in, there were a few changes he recommended. In a nutshell, it was every chrysalidocarpus available and new Caledonian types with some others in the mix. I tried to pick what is successful in the San Diego area and Central/South Florida both since I get the heat and the chill between the two. I also added some hard to deny plants I just had to have lol. You go! Let's keep our forum fun and friendly. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDesign Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Excited to see your haul!!! It's especially going to be fun seeing how the Chrysalidocarpus (Dypsis) varieties do in your area of Florida compared to my area in California. Tomorrow is going to feel like Christmas (better in my opinion). 🎄 🎁 2 1 Stacey Wright | Graphic Designer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 23 Author Report Share Posted August 23 It's in Tampa! It does feel like Santa is coming lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Adair Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 We are all excited for you! 2 Cindy Adair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 23 Author Report Share Posted August 23 They are here! The boxes are a bit heavy and packed FULL. Here is how they look inside for those curious, and the list. Now the fun part! 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Morrowii Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 Like Christmas in August! Enjoy! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinzyjr Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 23 minutes ago, flplantguy said: They are here! The boxes are a bit heavy and packed FULL. Here is how they look inside for those curious, and the list. Now the fun part! Congratulations! That's a lot of unwrapping to do! Good luck with all of them! 1 Lakeland, FL USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 23 Author Report Share Posted August 23 They all made it looking ok to perfect. The biggest had to cram in but they will be fine. The biggest is the Archie and it will grow out fine I'm sure. Just some bent fronds is all. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlyn Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Gadzooks! That's a lot of palms! I just planted Cyphophoenix Nucele in about 50% PM shade and Elegans in full sun. Both are doing great so far straight out of the big 1 gallon size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billeb Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Looking at these lists make me realize how many of these palms I have. You don’t notice until you see it on paper. Jeez…. @flplantguy , good luck with all your new plants. It’s always exciting opening the box from Jeff. -dale 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 24 Author Report Share Posted August 24 They will be staying in the guest bathroom for a bit with a possible storm on the way. Unwrapping today but I will wait until late weekend to set them outside if it looks like a false alarm. As a precaution I will also be spraying them with peroxide to destroy any odd microbes that may like it here more than Hawaii. Very excited to get to know them all on a more personal level! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskinPalms Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Awesome! Can’t wait to see what long term successes you get from that selection because our growing conditions are pretty much alike. 1 Parrish, FL Zone 9B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Adair Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Such a wonderful collection! Just curious as to why you are leaving on the green netting? Maybe easier to move when you take them outside? 1 Cindy Adair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 24 Author Report Share Posted August 24 37 minutes ago, Cindy Adair said: Such a wonderful collection! Just curious as to why you are leaving on the green netting? Maybe easier to move when you take them outside? I was in a bit of a hurry to get them away from the living room and in a safe space for the night. It's all getting removed today for photos and to set them free for staking and such. I tied the tall ones up for that photo and so they behave lol. I will keep the netting though, it's very useful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Adair Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 This makes perfect sense and yes, keep the netting. 1 Cindy Adair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 25 Author Report Share Posted August 25 So if you order, budget at least an hour per box unwrapping and getting plants set. The largest needed the fronds staked as they all bent over, but it's the archontophoenix and the euterpe 'orange crownshaft' which are both fast growers. I did what I could to keep the fronds straight with stakes and ties and they get set into a window this weekend. Looks like most plants in the yard will be making a guest stop in the house with the weather forecasting a named system nearby next week. I can pot up and fuss over them while it rains outside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looking Glass Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 These can stay in the potting mix for a while if needed, though I like to pot up personally, as much of their stuff is large and over grown and I want to get them growing. They take a lot of hits in shipping, and the lava/peat mix is pretty loose so I have had to stake taller 1 gallons. I just use 3 of the cheap bamboo spikes and some string. If I do that and pot up, they root in solid in 6 months, just as the stakes rot off. I try to get these outside ASAP on arrival. The heat, humidity and natural light is what they need. If you get a couple shallow, clear plastic totes (drill a couple of holes in the bottom if exposed to rain), you can just pack them in those, and they won’t tip in the wind. Even a shady protected porch is better than indoors. I have tons of these in the garage, so I usually just stick them in what I’ve got. Floribunda orders are fun. I didn’t get anything this year, as I’ve got more than I can handle for 2023. Not everybody is happy or makes it, and little palms vary in vigor, so sometimes it worth getting a few of your best bets to account for that. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 Whoa! Botanical garden in a box! Good luck with all those babies, I hope they will thrive for you. Kim Cyr Between the beach and the bays, Point Loma, San Diego, California USA and on a 300 year-old lava flow, Pahoa, Hawaii, 1/4 mile from the 2018 flow All characters in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 25 Author Report Share Posted August 25 I need some totes, I have one I used and it was nice to have. I'll get some more this weekend I have a spot chosen and that would keep them safe too. Potting up is happening too there are a few 4 inch that desperately need it and others that can wait a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlyn Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 You can also use the regular storage crates for moving around batches of smaller pots. I like them because the bottom is open and raised, so no chance of pots sitting in a tray of water. The plastic in most crates and totes is not UV stable for long-term outdoor use, it'll get brittle and fall apart after a couple of years. But by then you'll be stepping them up to 1g-3g or planting them. Keep in mind that the lava rock that Floribunda uses drains fast and has no nutrients. If you don't "fertigate" them in the pots they'll have nothing to grow with. For this reason I step up almost all my Floribunda orders immediately on receipt. That way in my nursery area all the pots can get the same treatment, and I don't have to think "oh yeah those 8 pots over there need xyz, and these 5 need abc." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 25 Author Report Share Posted August 25 I just typed them all into a list with care notes and even that was a chore lol. def don't want to have to cater too much outside of sun level. I could put in a fertilizer injector but I prefer the slow release fertilizer too. they have a lot already in them and that explains why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 On 8/23/2023 at 5:54 PM, flplantguy said: They are here! The boxes are a bit heavy and packed FULL. Here is how they look inside for those curious, and the list. Now the fun part! What a bounty! Kudos to you. I can't wait for the photo ops 1 Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 25 Author Report Share Posted August 25 1 hour ago, PalmatierMeg said: What a bounty! Kudos to you. I can't wait for the photo ops I'll have a bunch! They help me a lot on here so maybe they will help people too. The good and the bad but hopefully few of the bad! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlyn Posted August 25 Report Share Posted August 25 1 hour ago, flplantguy said: I just typed them all into a list with care notes and even that was a chore lol. def don't want to have to cater too much outside of sun level. I could put in a fertilizer injector but I prefer the slow release fertilizer too. they have a lot already in them and that explains why. Yeah, it's sometimes a pain maintaining a spreadsheet of purchase date/size/cost/culture. But later I forget how big a Syagrus Schizophylla grows, or whether they want a wet/dry or shade/sun area. With the number of different species you've just bought, it would be a good idea to have all that in a handy spreadsheet! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 25 Author Report Share Posted August 25 I had an orchid list like that before and will here again. I love lists lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 26 Author Report Share Posted August 26 I got them all set outside against the north side of the house with larger potted plants to brace them all until this storm passes. They got a warm to hot afternoon with sea breeze and now a thunderstorm with over and inch in a large downpour. They all look good still no shock that I can see yet and some even have some color already at their age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 26 Author Report Share Posted August 26 I'll do a set of photos later on of each group together once I can set them out in a better position. Some are obvious and others are hard to tell what they are yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted August 26 Report Share Posted August 26 Congratulations on your order! I have done two orders and loved them. Have to get motivated to make another order. Quality plants and huge sizes for a lot of things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 29 Author Report Share Posted August 29 First setback, other than the hurricane. The Euterpe 'orange crownshaft' had all the fronds bent in transit. they are brown now, but I missed the second issue though. It's high in the pot and needs repoted but was also looking infected, so I sprayed with peroxide and got the fizz of confirmation. New pot tomorrow too late now after moving them all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinzyjr Posted August 29 Report Share Posted August 29 Just now, flplantguy said: The Euterpe 'orange crownshaft' had all the fronds bent in transit. they are brown now, but I missed the second issue though. It's high in the pot and needs repoted but was also looking infected, so I sprayed with peroxide and got the fizz of confirmation. For whatever reason, these tend to do OK here until the slightest thing goes awry and then die seemingly by suicide. Lakeland, FL USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 29 Author Report Share Posted August 29 This one was ready out the gate lol. Maybe some TLC from me can get it to return, and if not I will try again with a small batch. The rest look good even the bent fronds on the Archie are ok still and the new spear is about 3 inches longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 30 Author Report Share Posted August 30 Put these in the wrong thread earlier but here they are again lol. Peroxide for them since I was not able to get them in a good spot outside yet and the fuzzy mold was trying to grow at the base. Other than that they are adjusting well and will get potted up and placed this long weekend, almost a week late unfortunately. They have held up well but I do not recommend having them inside too long, as suggested earlier outdoors is better. I'm fussing over them a lot in here and it's not ideal but after the storm passes it's go time! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flplantguy Posted August 30 Author Report Share Posted August 30 The next set of one gallon size. Old fronds on the psammophilus are brown but the rest are happy. Unpictured is the Euterpe 'orange crownshaft' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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