happypalms Another day in paradise in the garden

[happypalms]

55 minutes ago, Neil C said:

You sure have a green thumb!! Welcome from up in Brissie.

Regards Neil

Hi Neil actually I have been told I have two green thumbs but full credit goes to my grandmother who could grow a dead stick cheers 

[happypalms]

Everyone enjoys seeing palms in the garden here’s a couple I have in my garden I have around 30 mature specimens around my garden some as tall as 5 feet  they were planted around 20 years ago they are drought tolerant cold tolerant not frost and take a fair bit of sun but yellow a bit in too much light all round a tough palm I hand pollinate them collect male pollen and store in the fridge until the females are receptive then every couple days in the flower season for about two weeks go around and place the male pollen bag over the female flowers i hope this seasons seeds around 300 seeds will be exported to a reputable company to sell on to the world market if all goes well wich makes me really happy knowing my seed will go around the world from my garden the last photo of a eucalyptus tree in my area with bangalow palms the photo of the hose nozzle is unpollinated seeds but they have set being unfertile seeds they are easy to germinate bottom heat at 28 degrees coco coir perlite mix I pot the baby seedlings up in standard potting mix with perlite added 

[happypalms]

[Darold Petty]

 for the Three Graces sculpture !  (the palms are nice, also !)

[surfermatt]

Really cool. One of my favorites. Great shots. 

[happypalms]

18 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

 for the Three Graces sculpture !  (the palms are nice, also !)

Yes I agree here’s another one in the garden 

18 hours ago, Darold Petty said:

 for the Three Graces sculpture !  (the palms are nice, also !)

 

[happypalms]

4 hours ago, surfermatt said:

Really cool. One of my favorites. Great shots. 

Thanks there a tough palm the adscendans 

[happypalms]

On 7/13/2023 at 7:38 PM, tim_brissy_13 said:

This species is an absolutely beauty, they are amazing in habitat in Thailand. I’ll really have to give growing one in Melbourne a try given the positive reviews in some cool climates.  

Try lanonia dasyantha in Melbourne as well 

[peachy]

Each time I have bought one they turn out to be C. oblongata.  Now that I have started a new garden in a very tiny space, the big glamorous palms are a thing of the past, so it's the little species from now on. No room for big fast growing shade trees either but the few things I use as substitutes are doing the job to a point.  How do you tell the difference apart from the fact that C. oblongata are extremely fast growers ?

Peachy

 

P.S.  I never knew that statue was the Three Graces, somebody told me it was Sappho and her handmaidens.  Ya learn sumfin new every day !

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, peachy said:

Each time I have bought one they turn out to be C. oblongata.  Now that I have started a new garden in a very tiny space, the big glamorous palms are a thing of the past, so it's the little species from now on. No room for big fast growing shade trees either but the few things I use as substitutes are doing the job to a point.  How do you tell the difference apart from the fact that C. oblongata are extremely fast growers ?

Peachy

 

P.S.  I never knew that statue was the Three Graces, somebody told me it was Sappho and her handmaidens.  Ya learn sumfin new every day !

I never new the name of the statue in question either all I know is i acquired the statue from a couple who were moving house and the statue is very heavy you’re never to old to learn 

[happypalms]

1 hour ago, peachy said:

Each time I have bought one they turn out to be C. oblongata.  Now that I have started a new garden in a very tiny space, the big glamorous palms are a thing of the past, so it's the little species from now on. No room for big fast growing shade trees either but the few things I use as substitutes are doing the job to a point.  How do you tell the difference apart from the fact that C. oblongata are extremely fast growers ?

Peachy

 

P.S.  I never knew that statue was the Three Graces, somebody told me it was Sappho and her handmaidens.  Ya learn sumfin new every day !

Hi peachy I have some small tube stock chameadorea adscendans for sale I can post to you pm me happypalmshalfwaycrk@gmail.com

[PalmatierMeg]

I grew a bunch of adscendans from seed but have never planted them. My soil is alkaline shell rock dreck that outright kills some species including some Chamaedoreas so I’ve been afraid to plant them. Ironically, all of them appear to be females so no offspring. They really are tough palms.

[tim_brissy_13]

2 hours ago, happypalms said:

Try lanonia dasyantha in Melbourne as well 

Already got one in the ground and another in a pot. There’s another collector down here with a mature one outdoors, they don’t seem to mind the cool conditions at all. 

[barefoot_yankee]

Holy Mackeral....that's not a garden it's a jungle! Gorgeous!!

[tim_brissy_13]

13 hours ago, peachy said:

Each time I have bought one they turn out to be C. oblongata.  Now that I have started a new garden in a very tiny space, the big glamorous palms are a thing of the past, so it's the little species from now on. No room for big fast growing shade trees either but the few things I use as substitutes are doing the job to a point.  How do you tell the difference apart from the fact that C. oblongata are extremely fast growers ?

Peachy

 

P.S.  I never knew that statue was the Three Graces, somebody told me it was Sappho and her handmaidens.  Ya learn sumfin new every day !

Hi Peachy,

C adscendens have an overall more glacous blue/green colour while oblongata are pure green. C oblongata as you’ve noted is much faster and space between nodes on the trunk much wider. At seedling size it’s more difficult to tell but I’d say adscendens has thicker fronds which are stiffer compared to oblongata.

C. adscendens is just about my favourite Chamaedorea. Great choice for a small garden.

 

 

[happypalms]

10 hours ago, barefoot_yankee said:

Holy Mackeral....that's not a garden it's a jungle! Gorgeous!!

Thank you from the age of 16 I said I wanted a rainforest garden I now have one and iam not finished with planting it out more to go 

12 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said:

I grew a bunch of adscendans from seed but have never planted them. My soil is alkaline shell rock dreck that outright kills some species including some Chamaedoreas so I’ve been afraid to plant them. Ironically, all of them appear to be females so no offspring. They really are tough palms.

try planting one in the the ground in the pot that might make a difference or make a raised container bed with your own soil mix they love to grow in my black sandy soil 

12 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said:

I grew a bunch of adscendans from seed but have never planted them. My soil is alkaline shell rock dreck that outright kills some species including some Chamaedoreas so I’ve been afraid to plant them. Ironically, all of them appear to be females so no offspring. 

[peachy]

15 hours ago, happypalms said:

Hi peachy I have some small tube stock chameadorea adscendans for sale I can post to you pm me happypalmshalfwaycrk@gmail.com

Ooh she says as her eyes light up with avarice.  I will be in touch with you soon. Since Robs Rare Palms and Palms for Brisbane closed up the only place to find things is the annual Palm show.

Peachy

[peachy]

3 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Hi Peachy,

C adscendens have an overall more glacous blue/green colour while oblongata are pure green. C oblongata as you’ve noted is much faster and space between nodes on the trunk much wider. At seedling size it’s more difficult to tell but I’d say adscendens has thicker fronds which are stiffer compared to oblongata.

C. adscendens is just about my favourite Chamaedorea. Great choice for a small garden.

 

 

Thanks for that Tim. I bought a tiny C. Oblongata 2 years ago about 30 cm high and it is now hitting the guttering on the roof and as yet there is nowhere shady enough to plant it !

Peachy

[happypalms]

16 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Already got one in the ground and another in a pot. There’s another collector down here with a mature one outdoors, they don’t seem to mind the cool conditions at all. 

Hi Tim good news on your lanonia I have some deep forestry tube stock of kerriodoxa elegans available if you can’t find one message me cheers 

[Darold Petty]

On 7/17/2023 at 2:44 AM, peachy said:

I never knew that statue was the Three Graces, somebody told me it was Sappho and her handmaidens.  Ya learn sumfin new every day !

Peachy, It was my casual and offhand  assumption about the title of HappyPalms sculpture. I am most likely wrong.  I could not find a similar sculpture with a cursory internet search. 

Here is an original artwork

https://www.theoi.com/Ouranios/Kharites.html

And here is mine, a facsimile of an authentic sculpture piece, the original is now housed in the Louvre.  (Somewhere I have an image of me standing next to the Louvre one!)

[peachy]

They must use a great waxing salon !!

Peachy

[tim_brissy_13]

22 hours ago, happypalms said:

Hi Tim good news on your lanonia I have some deep forestry tube stock of kerriodoxa elegans available if you can’t find one message me cheers 

I might contact you in Spring. I’m sure any palm let alone a tropical species would be rudely shocked by getting taken from the sub tropics and getting placed into our near freezing temps at the moment!

[happypalms]

4 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

I might contact you in Spring. I’m sure any palm let alone a tropical species would be rudely shocked by getting taken from the sub tropics and getting placed into our near freezing temps at the moment!

Yes I stop buying now as well just to cold for any tropical grown plant oh to live in Hawaii lucky growers 

[happypalms]

Not sure I purchased this palm as dypsis utilis it’s around 15 years old it has tolerated cold temperatures down to 2 degrees and dry conditions being in a dry spot in my garden it has missed out on the watering a pretty tough palm well worth growing the new leaf is almost liver colour all round winner 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ether 

[happypalms]

Thanks Siri for the auto correct spelling utilising 

[Tracy]

8 hours ago, happypalms said:

this palm as dypsis utilis it’s around 15 years old it has tolerated cold temperatures down to 2 degrees and dry conditions being in a dry spot in my garden it has missed out on the watering a pretty tough palm well worth growing the new leaf is almost liver colour all round winner 

Has yours pushed out a flower spathe yet?  I am growing what I acquired as Vonitra crinita (formerly Dypsis and before that Vonitra).  First photo is sometime after planting it in 2016, and the other three photos are from Spring of 2023.  It has put on some size and went from a single trunk to four trunks, where it has remained stable.  Still pushes the salmon to liver color leaves but no sign yet of a flower spathe.  Meanwhile, I planted a form of Chrysalidocarpus onilahensis or hybrid adjacent to it which has been flowering for a couple of years and is similar in stature today.  Since your specimen has over a decade in age compared to mine, I am really curious about the flowering status.

[realarch]

Tracy, you beat me to it. I was going to add that Richard also might add Dypsis fibrosa as a possible ID, but a quick look at reference material, I now know of the reclassification into the Vonitra group. Where have I been?

Mine bifurcated at an early age and is one hairy mother. It’s also gotten much larger than expected and flowers regularly, but I haven’t noticed any seeds amongst all that piassava. (new word for me

Tim)

[happypalms]

12 hours ago, Tracy said:

Has yours pushed out a flower spathe yet?  I am growing what I acquired as Vonitra crinita (formerly Dypsis and before that Vonitra).  First photo is sometime after planting it in 2016, and the other three photos are from Spring of 2023.  It has put on some size and went from a single trunk to four trunks, where it has remained stable.  Still pushes the salmon to liver color leaves but no sign yet of a flower spathe.  Meanwhile, I planted a form of Chrysalidocarpus onilahensis or hybrid adjacent to it which has been flowering for a couple of years and is similar in stature today.  Since your specimen has over a decade in age compared to mine, I am really curious about the flowering status.

Thanks for the palm Identification it has the liver colour leaf that is in your photo so crinata for now will do me fine once again thank you 

[happypalms]

On 7/18/2023 at 1:33 PM, peachy said:

Ooh she says as her eyes light up with avarice.  I will be in touch with you soon. Since Robs Rare Palms and Palms for Brisbane closed up the only place to find things is the annual Palm show.

Peachy

Not a problem I have many rare and exotic palms for sale in my collection lytocaryum weddellianum linospadix monostachya variegated raphis chamadorea Radicalis chamadorea plumosa lanonia dasyantha or perhaps one feature palm kerridoxa elegans or Johannesteijsmannia Altifrons or a cycas debonensis that’s just a few I have plus many many more 🌱

[Tomas]

On 7/18/2023 at 9:40 PM, Darold Petty said:

Peachy, It was my casual and offhand  assumption about the title of HappyPalms sculpture. I am most likely wrong.  I could not find a similar sculpture with a cursory internet search. 

Here is an original artwork

https://www.theoi.com/Ouranios/Kharites.html

And here is mine, a facsimile of an authentic sculpture piece, the original is now housed in the Louvre.  (Somewhere I have an image of me standing next to the Louvre one!)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Graces_(Canova)

[Tomas]

On 7/16/2023 at 12:09 PM, happypalms said:

Everyone enjoys seeing palms in the garden here’s a couple I have in my garden I have around 30 mature specimens around my garden some as tall as 5 feet  they were planted around 20 years ago they are drought tolerant cold tolerant not frost and take a fair bit of sun but yellow a bit in too much light all round a tough palm I hand pollinate them collect male pollen and store in the fridge until the females are receptive then every couple days in the flower season for about two weeks go around and place the male pollen bag over the female flowers i hope this seasons seeds around 300 seeds will be exported to a reputable company to sell on to the world market if all goes well wich makes me really happy knowing my seed will go around the world from my garden the last photo of a eucalyptus tree in my area with bangalow palms the photo of the hose nozzle is unpollinated seeds but they have set being unfertile seeds they are easy to germinate bottom heat at 28 degrees coco coir perlite mix I pot the baby seedlings up in standard potting mix with perlite added 

Have you ever tried to cross polinate them with any other species?

[happypalms]

58 minutes ago, Tomas said:

Have you ever tried to cross polinate them with any other species?

Not on purpose but I have some female chameadorea Metallica and female chameadorea geonomiformis with seeds this season and no apparent male in site for both species and I was pollinating my chameadorea adscedans in the same area in my garden so I will be keeping an eye on these seeds they were all flowering at the same time 

[Darold Petty]

Tomas, thanks for the Wikipedia link !  

   I love the work of Canova, and this is one of my favorites.  When I saw this in real life it was difficult to accept that it is made of stone, so perfect in detailing, even the folds in the cushion fabric are accurate, with deeper creases underneath the heavier parts of her body.

https://borghese.gallery/collection/sculpture/venus-victrix-by-canova.html

[bubba]

[Tracy]

23 hours ago, realarch said:

Tracy, you beat me to it. I was going to add that Richard also might add Dypsis fibrosa as a possible ID, but a quick look at reference material, I now know of the reclassification into the Vonitra group. Where have I been?

Mine bifurcated at an early age and is one hairy mother. It’s also gotten much larger than expected and flowers regularly, but I haven’t noticed any seeds amongst all that piassava. (new word for me

Tim)

I probably saw yours but can't recall it specifically, as I was a bit overwhelmed with everything when Dana and I visited.  I do recall seeing some Vonitra at Bill Austin's that I believe either Bill or Jeff id'd as Vonitra crinita.  They had more girth than mine have, but so many things have a different look here.  I was looking at my Chrysalidocarpus basilongus which is opening a new leaf right now, and remember how much thicker the trunk was on yours and all others I saw on the Hilo side of the island.  Clearly climate plays into how these grow.  Len told me a while back that mine could be either V utilis or fibrosus, but until it flowers and I have something to compare on that front, I've just stuck with the original name it came with.

Next time yours is in flower please share some photos.  I'll be interested to compare what I get if and when it ever happens.  Same photo request to our friend Happypalms in New South Wales.

[happypalms]

13 hours ago, Tracy said:

I probably saw yours but can't recall it specifically, as I was a bit overwhelmed with everything when Dana and I visited.  I do recall seeing some Vonitra at Bill Austin's that I believe either Bill or Jeff id'd as Vonitra crinita.  They had more girth than mine have, but so many things have a different look here.  I was looking at my Chrysalidocarpus basilongus which is opening a new leaf right now, and remember how much thicker the trunk was on yours and all others I saw on the Hilo side of the island.  Clearly climate plays into how these grow.  Len told me a while back that mine could be either V utilis or fibrosus, but until it flowers and I have something to compare on that front, I've just stuck with the original name it came with.

Next time yours is in flower please share some photos.  I'll be interested to compare what I get if and when it ever happens.  Same photo request to our friend Happypalms in New South Wales.

When it does flower in sunny warm Australia I shall be more than happy to post the photo my garden is 23 years old so more surprises to come in the future.

[happypalms]

My lanonia certainly had a hail bashing but survived well there easy to germinate and grow water and I don’t fertilise them it helps with keeping the mottled colour i even managed to get a variegated one fingers crossed it stays true and doesn’t revert the odds are against it I might get lucky they certainly are cold hardy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ether 

[happypalms]

Here’s a few of my chambeyronia macrocarpa and hookeri  I have in my garden they are around 20 years old there so beautiful in any situation hookeri seem to grow faster than macrocarpa in my area 

[Merlyn]

Nice collection!  I just heard about this palm last year, and now have 12 of them.  I recently planted the first one in a spot that gets AM sun and full PM shade.

 

[apriliarider15]

Hopefully that variegated one keeps it up. Such I cool little palm. I'm looking to try a couple in zone8b/9a just to see if they'll handle our winters