New mule addict

[Robbertico18]

Just received 2 super mule Palms from moultrie palms and I’m excited for them to take off! Was wondering if anyone had some larger examples they could share pictures of. 
 

Also, I recently tried to email Patric for a list of his available palms about a week or so ago and haven’t heard back yet. I know hes not a full time business I just want to make sure he’s still around and that I have the most up to date contact info. 
This is the email I have for him coolhybrids@yahoo.com

 

thanks y’all!

[Allen]

2 hours ago, Robbertico18 said:

Just received 2 super mule Palms from moultrie palms and I’m excited for them to take off! Was wondering if anyone had some larger examples they could share pictures of. 
 

Also, I recently tried to email Patric for a list of his available palms about a week or so ago and haven’t heard back yet. I know hes not a full time business I just want to make sure he’s still around and that I have the most up to date contact info. 
This is the email I have for him coolhybrids@yahoo.com

 

thanks y’all!

Are you planting them this year?  My mule is really growing in this heat!

[Robbertico18]

I was thinking to keep them potted and then plant in the spring 

[Allen]

17 minutes ago, Robbertico18 said:

I was thinking to keep them potted and then plant in the spring 

Good call I think they will need winter protection in 8b some years

[Robbertico18]

25 minutes ago, Allen said:

Good call I think they will need winter protection in 8b some years

I’m actually close enough to the coast to be 9a 🤠Supposedly the super mules are even hardier than the regular mule, so I kinda hope it just sails on thru the winter.

[MattInRaleigh]

That's a great looking palm and it has a cool origin story. Do you have any idea how large it'll get?

[Allen]

1 hour ago, Robbertico18 said:

I’m actually close enough to the coast to be 9a 🤠Supposedly the super mules are even hardier than the regular mule, so I kinda hope it just sails on thru the winter.

yea I just looked at your low temps and after the 80's they have been good for a mule. 

[Robbertico18]

1 hour ago, MattInRaleigh said:

That's a great looking palm and it has a cool origin story. Do you have any idea how large it'll get?

this is the largest example I could find, right off the moultrie palms website. 
I hope it gets some height and a good trunk 

[RJ]

I’ve got a couple of these, I had a big one 25g size that my kids left the sprinkler on for a few hours.  It didn’t like overhead city water, shortly after spear pulled and went toes up. My smaller ones are doing just fine. 

[Robbertico18]

1 hour ago, RJ said:

I’ve got a couple of these, I had a big one 25g size that my kids left the sprinkler on for a few hours.  It didn’t like overhead city water, shortly after spear pulled and went toes up. My smaller ones are doing just fine. 

Do you have a pic of the large one before the city water overdose?

[Dwarf Fan]

On 7/21/2023 at 1:40 PM, Robbertico18 said:

Was wondering if anyone had some larger examples they could share pictures of. 

thanks y’all!

One of the Palm Talkers posted cross streets for the only known home on my Island that has Mules growing in the front yard. It is a new house and there are 6 fairly large Mules and they all have the custom “diamond cut” trunk I believe it is called. They look very nice. 
 

I will try to snap some pics next time I head out and post them up here. 

Edited July 23, 2023 by Dwarf Fan

[JLM]

I got a standard and a super mule from them last year. The standard was planted out, super stayed potted until this spring. The standard spear pulled in March and is recovering well after having to cut it back a bit. I will have to get pictures today of both of them. 

Btw, my super came with a blue zip tie around the base of the palm, the palm has grown enough now that it literally popped it off.

[Dwarf Fan]

For OP, the street view in 2015 shows nothing but an empty lot, the house was built in 2017. I would venture to guess the Mules were bought by the builder already somewhat grown and trimmed and put in ground as part of the landscaping around that same time. Robbertico18 here are pics of the only known Mules on North Padre Island.

[Robbertico18]

2 minutes ago, Dwarf Fan said:

For OP, the street view in 2015 shows nothing but an empty lot, the house was built in 2017. I would venture to guess the Mules were bought by the builder already somewhat grown and trimmed and put in ground as part of the landscaping around that same time. Robbertico18 here are pics of the only known Mules on North Padre Island.

Those are amazing, thank you for snapping those pics!

I like how they trimmed up the trunks, gives them a cleaner look 

[Dwarf Fan]

2 minutes ago, Robbertico18 said:

Those are amazing, thank you for snapping those pics!

I like how they trimmed up the trunks, gives them a cleaner look 

Welcome, I hope to have at least 2 in my backyard by next spring and eventually 2 more in the front yard hopefully soon after. I will definitely do the “diamond cut” on the trunks as well I love that look.

[Robbertico18]

Ahhh is that what the diamond cut is ???

Ive heard of it but never seen it 

[Dwarf Fan]

8 minutes ago, Robbertico18 said:

Ahhh is that what the diamond cut is ???

Ive heard of it but never seen it 

I don’t know if the trees I posted have that specific technique on the cut, they look similar but upon closer inspection they look more like the boots were just cut straight across but in a nice uniform manner. The “diamond cut” technique seems to have a bit of an upward angle to the cut.

 

Edited July 23, 2023 by Dwarf Fan

[Hardypalms]

Can someone tell me more about those super mules?

I m in 7b and good at protecting.

Is a super mule hardier?

I would plant a small one or two next spring.

Thxs

Pat

[Matt N- Dallas]

Here’s a (B x J)x S growing in Dallas, TX.

Pictures from last year. 

[Scott W]

On 9/1/2023 at 6:50 PM, Hardypalms said:

Can someone tell me more about those super mules?

I m in 7b and good at protecting.

Is a super mule hardier?

I would plant a small one or two next spring.

Thxs

Pat

Super mules as they are called are the name for the creation performed by Frank Lewis of Moultrie Palms and another hybridizer.  The female tree is a F2/F3 Jubutia created by the late Dr. Wilcox, which is then pollinated with Syagrus romanzoffiana.  To my knowledge they should be hardy to the mid teens.

This thread here the poster saw temp of 12F and his super mules were defoliated....and a later update said one "looked" alive, but no further updates.

 

 

I know there are others that have performed a (Butia x jubaea) X Syagrus cross, not sure if they call them super mules or not...

[OC2Texaspalmlvr]

On 7/21/2023 at 1:40 PM, Robbertico18 said:

This is the email I have for him coolhybrids@yahoo.com

This is his correct info , unfortunately I haven't heard of his current list from him or any PTers in awhile. Also all of these Butia hybrids are gonna be a crap shoot on the eventual look of these palms. Some look like the best of both parents some end up the worst of both. It suxs cause you won't know till they get much larger. Also with Mules becoming so popular and profitable they spend so much of there life in pots that they end up looking really skinny to me. 

T J 

[Robbertico18]

30 minutes ago, OC2Texaspalmlvr said:

This is his correct info , unfortunately I haven't heard of his current list from him or any PTers in awhile. Also all of these Butia hybrids are gonna be a crap shoot on the eventual look of these palms. Some look like the best of both parents some end up the worst of both. It suxs cause you won't know till they get much larger. Also with Mules becoming so popular and profitable they spend so much of there life in pots that they end up looking really skinny to me. 

T J 

He did end up reaching out to me a few weeks after I emailed him.  My message got sent to his junk folder initially, he said to try again in a few months. 

[Turtlesteve]

On 9/3/2023 at 2:29 PM, Scott W said:

Super mules as they are called are the name for the creation performed by Frank Lewis of Moultrie Palms and another hybridizer.  The female tree is a F2/F3 Jubutia created by the late Dr. Wilcox, which is then pollinated with Syagrus romanzoffiana.  To my knowledge they should be hardy to the mid teens.

This thread here the poster saw temp of 12F and his super mules were defoliated....and a later update said one "looked" alive, but no further updates.

 

 

I know there are others that have performed a (Butia x jubaea) X Syagrus cross, not sure if they call them super mules or not...

One super mule survived 12F, and one died.  The survivor had a major case of spear rot and it was not clear it was going to live until early summer.  Neither one was trunking size yet. 

Steve

 

[Gallop]

On 7/21/2023 at 2:40 PM, Robbertico18 said:

Just received 2 super mule Palms from moultrie palms and I’m excited for them to take off! Was wondering if anyone had some larger examples they could share pictures of. 
 

Also, I recently tried to email Patric for a list of his available palms about a week or so ago and haven’t heard back yet. I know hes not a full time business I just want to make sure he’s still around and that I have the most up to date contact info. 
This is the email I have for him coolhybrids@yahoo.com

 

thanks y’all!

Here you go.

[Tom in Tucson]

Fantastic looking BJxQ or is it a Moultrie?

Hi 105°, Lo 62°

[Gallop]

7 hours ago, Tom in Tucson said:

Fantastic looking BJxQ or is it a Moultrie?

Hi 105°, Lo 62°

This is a Moutrie. I have a couple other BJ x Q. They all look a bit different.

[Robbertico18]

8 hours ago, Gallop said:

Here you go.

Wow that’s beautiful !

how long has it been in the ground ?

[Gallop]

8 hours ago, Robbertico18 said:

Wow that’s beautiful !

how long has it been in the ground ?

3yrs, was either a 3gal or possibly a 7gal when I put in ground. I put a couple 3gal in ground 2yrs ago and they are not to far behind.