How long do Chamaedoreas take to germinate on average?

[idontknowhatnametuse]

I currently have C. Pochutlensis and C. Tepejilote seeds and none of them have germinated after 3-4 weeks of planting them, they are in peat moss and the pot they are in gets some sun in the morning but gets watered almost daily. Any recommendations?

[Phoenikakias]

Chamaedorea seeds may even need a year to germinate.This is one of greatest paradoxa in the palmy reality.

[idontknowhatnametuse]

1 minute ago, Phoenikakias said:

Chamaedorea seeds may even need a year to germinate.This is one of greatest paradoxa in the palmy reality.

Thank You, I Didn't knew that, I thought they were fast due to their size. Do you think I should leave them in the place they are or should I move them to a place with more shade?

[Darold Petty]

Recently, I obtained germination of Chamaedorea carchensis after 11 months.  Many species in this genus take 4-8 months.  Palm seeds are not known to be light sensitive for germination,  and respond only to warmth and moisture.

[Silas_Sancona]

C. microspadix and metallica ( from my own plants ) = 6-10 weeks, in Florida, in shifting bright shade, under one of my benches, in late summer..  C. metallica i'd started in San Jose, ..roughly the same time of year = add about 4 weeks to the germination time..

My own experience(s) only..

 

[khachaturian]

Pacaya seeds collected fresh from the palm begin sprouting after 4-6 weeks (tropical conditions). Keep the seedlings out of the sun. I accidentally toasted mine this year 😔

[tim_brissy_13]

I’d say if the seeds are fresh, 4-12 weeks is typical for most Chamaedorea species. Often the will continue to sporadically germinate until 18 months or so. I’ve recently had a couple of C liebmanii pop up after 18 months after the first few from the same batch came up after 3 months. 

[Robert D. Young]

Slightly off-topic, there was a shrub at our house that was cut down in 1983. We thought it was dead. SIX years later, it started growing back from the stump. It ended up making a full recovery and reached 15 feet high in a few years. I never would have thought the plant could survive six years in dormancy... 😳🤷🏻‍♂️

[Pal Meir]

Chamaedorea tuerckheimii (Veracruz) 6 (of 7) seeds: 29 to 86 days.

[DoomsDave]

5 hours ago, Robert D. Young said:

Slightly off-topic, there was a shrub at our house that was cut down in 1983. We thought it was dead. SIX years later, it started growing back from the stump. It ended up making a full recovery and reached 15 feet high in a few years. I never would have thought the plant could survive six years in dormancy... 😳🤷🏻‍♂️

What plant is that? Really curious? If you don't know, maybe post a picture.

[Hardypalms]

I have C. radicalis that i sowed spring 2022 and some sprouted in the same year’s summer and some are sprouting now 14 months later.

Pat

Edited August 30 by Hardypalms

[Will]

The fresh seeds I got from Radicalis needed around 5 months 

[happypalms]

On 7/21/2023 at 4:59 AM, idontknowhatnametuse said:

I currently have C. Pochutlensis and C. Tepejilote seeds and none of them have germinated after 3-4 weeks of planting them, they are in peat moss and the pot they are in gets some sun in the morning but gets watered almost daily. Any recommendations?

My chameadorea adscendans take about 6 to 8 weeks with bottom heating 30 degrees Celsius coco peat perlite mix wet the mix and squeeze the living daylights out of it until no drops of water come out and iam good to go with that styrofoam box’s help retain the heat and are good insulation from the cold good luck 

[happypalms]

13 hours ago, happypalms said:

My chameadorea adscendans take about 6 to 8 weeks with bottom heating 30 degrees Celsius coco peat perlite mix wet the mix and squeeze the living daylights out of it until no drops of water come out and iam good to go with that styrofoam box’s help retain the heat and are good insulation from the cold good luck 

Ps you should not have to water them if there in a plastic bag just check on them occasionally 

[idontknowhatnametuse]

@Phoenikakias @Darold Petty @Silas_Sancona @khachaturian @tim_brissy_13 @Robert D. Young @Pal Meir @DoomsDave @Hardypalms @Will @happypalms

One of my Chamaedorea pochutlensis seeds finally germinated, I transplanted it into a smaller pot so i know where it is and I moved the other ones that haven't sprouted yet into a bag with peat moss (Baggy method)

Here are some questions I have regarding C. pochutlensis

> Should I transplant it in the winter or leave it where it is?

> In which conditions or temperature should I leave the bag with the seeds?

> How often should I water the germinated seed?

I think I can keep it in that pot for some time, When I went to Puerto Vallarta they were selling C. pochutlensis in small bags, they are smaller than the pot I put it in.

I will post pictures of my palm once it grows to the surface.

Thank you everyone.

[Silas_Sancona]

2 minutes ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

@Phoenikakias @Darold Petty @Silas_Sancona @khachaturian @tim_brissy_13 @Robert D. Young @Pal Meir @DoomsDave @Hardypalms @Will @happypalms

One of my Chamaedorea pochutlensis seeds finally germinated, I transplanted it into a smaller pot so i know where it is and I moved the other ones that haven't sprouted yet into a bag with peat moss (Baggy method)

Here are some questions I have regarding C. pochutlensis

> Should I transplant it in the winter or leave it where it is?

> In which conditions or temperature should I leave the bag with the seeds?

> How often should I water the germinated seed?

I think I can keep it in that pot for some time, When I went to Puerto Vallarta they were selling C. pochutlensis in small bags, they are smaller than the pot I put it in.

I will post pictures of my palm once it grows to the surface.

Thank you everyone.

My own thoughts:

Wouldn't transplant until spring

Keep the bag w/ the rest of the seeds somewhere warm, out of direct sun.. If you keep it where it is cool, seeds may not germinate until spring / may rot if soil stays too cool..

Keep it moist ..but not wet.. Let the weight of the pot ( when you lift it ) be your -general- guide on when to add some water..  Remember, during the cooler / winter months, soil will generally retain moisture longer than during the summer.

  A trip to Puerto Vallarta sounds nice.. and not just to pick up some of those Chams.. ( After seed off the wild Plumeria / some other native stuff down there too ) 

  ...If you get a chance next time you're in that area,  might pay the Botanical Garden there a visit ( if you haven't been there already ).. Supposedly have some nice Cryosophila nana  specimens.. Is the only sp. in the Genus native that far northwest in Mexico and may be the most cold tolerant sp. as well.