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Pritchardia minor. Who grows it?


Alberto

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I have a little, slow growing P. minor. Originated from the most northern Island of Hawai' i, Kaua'i: the Alakai Swamp pritchardia or loulu grows in wet forests in the centre of Kauaʻi at an elevation of about 1,400 metres (4,600 ft). How cold hardy is it? Hawaii.  https://www.palmpedia.net/palmsforcal/Pritchardia_minor.    https://www.pacsoa.org.au/wiki/Pritchardia_minor

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Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

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The must be certainly the most cool hardy Pritchardia but not certain on absolute cold. There are mature beauties growing in relatively cool locations in NZ but they probably rarely seeing sub freezing temperatures. I’ve got a few seedlings but can’t comment on absolute cold hardiness yet (I’ll see how they go over the next few months). 

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Tim Brisbane

Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

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2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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I grow them here in coastal valley Northern California. Easy growers but a bit slow. 
 

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Jim in Los Altos, CA  SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level

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Bad photo but these are a nice palm with flat leaves and colourful undersides that can look amazing in the right light.  Grow like weeds here but not sure if they would take much frost on them.

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8 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said:

I grow them here in coastal valley Northern California. Easy growers but a bit slow. 
 

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Nice! I suspect your place is frost free, Jim?

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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7 hours ago, richnorm said:

Bad photo but these are a nice palm with flat leaves and colourful undersides that can look amazing in the right light.  Grow like weeds here but not sure if they would take much frost on them.

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Nice palm! What do you mean with " grow like weeds" . Are they fast there or they pop up everywhere?

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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They are easy to grow with no special care and produce copious amounts of  seed which germinates in the garden.

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Ok, thanks!

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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21 hours ago, Alberto said:

Nice! I suspect your place is frost free, Jim?

The garden is frost free for the most part but light frost does affect my area in general a few times per winter. No below freezing temperatures though since 2007. 

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zone 10a/9b

sunset zone 16

300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground

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On 5/22/2023 at 3:41 PM, tim_brissy_13 said:

The must be certainly the most cool hardy Pritchardia but not certain on absolute cold. There are mature beauties growing in relatively cool locations in NZ but they probably rarely seeing sub freezing temperatures. I’ve got a few seedlings but can’t comment on absolute cold hardiness yet (I’ll see how they go over the next few months). 

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That looks more like P. martii in your picture.

Beautiful, whatever it is!

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1 hour ago, Palmiz said:

Here's my minor pritchardia, hopefully it's the real deal. 🙏 way too early to tell

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Did you get that one from  me? If you did, it's a martii.

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14 minutes ago, DoomsDave said:

Did you get that one from  me? If you did, it's a martii.

No, I got that from Mark M. I did get Martii from though Dave thanks.

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4 hours ago, DoomsDave said:

That looks more like P. martii in your picture.

Beautiful, whatever it is!

Pretty confident it’s P minor. Here’s another angle of the same palm which shows the inflorescence which I think more closely matches the P minor description rather the P martii (although I know martii is highly variable). I think the petioles may just be stretched more than typical because it has been grown in partial shade. 
 

Also, this palm is in the Landsendt garden just out of Auckland.  I took these photos about 4 years ago.  It’s quite a heat deprived climate, I’d expect P martii would be a tough grow there. From what I know, P minor is relatively common (at least compared to other Pritchardia sp) in Northern NZ whereas I didn’t see any P martii when I visited.@richnormmaybe you could confirm?

 

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Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia

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2005 Minimum: 2.6C,  Maximum: 44C

2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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6 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Pretty confident it’s P minor. Here’s another angle of the same palm which shows the inflorescence which I think more closely matches the P minor description rather the P martii (although I know martii is highly variable). I think the petioles may just be stretched more than typical because it has been grown in partial shade. 
 

Also, this palm is in the Landsendt garden just out of Auckland.  I took these photos about 4 years ago.  It’s quite a heat deprived climate, I’d expect P martii would be a tough grow there. From what I know, P minor is relatively common (at least compared to other Pritchardia sp) in Northern NZ whereas I didn’t see any P martii when I visited.@richnormmaybe you could confirm?

 

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Yeah, pink and fuzzy inflorescence so surely must be minor. There seems to be two forms here, this one is larger all round.

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2 hours ago, richnorm said:

Yeah, pink and fuzzy inflorescence so surely must be minor. There seems to be two forms here, this one is larger all round.

Rich, is your one what you would call the larger form too? Hard to judge scale from your photo. 

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2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record.

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Very nice palm. It must feel at home in NZ' s fresh and humid island  climate.... 

Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil.

Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm

 

I am seeking for cold hardy palms!

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P. martii seeds are about three times the size of P. minor seeds.

 

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Mike Merritt

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16 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said:

Rich, is your one what you would call the larger form too? Hard to judge scale from your photo. 

Yeah, leaves are about 120cm across.

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