Alberto Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 I have a little, slow growing P. minor. Originated from the most northern Island of Hawai' i, Kaua'i: the Alakai Swamp pritchardia or loulu grows in wet forests in the centre of Kauaʻi at an elevation of about 1,400 metres (4,600 ft). How cold hardy is it? Hawaii. https://www.palmpedia.net/palmsforcal/Pritchardia_minor. https://www.pacsoa.org.au/wiki/Pritchardia_minor 5 Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil. Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm I am seeking for cold hardy palms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_brissy_13 Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 The must be certainly the most cool hardy Pritchardia but not certain on absolute cold. There are mature beauties growing in relatively cool locations in NZ but they probably rarely seeing sub freezing temperatures. I’ve got a few seedlings but can’t comment on absolute cold hardiness yet (I’ll see how they go over the next few months). 7 Tim Brisbane Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia Rarely Frost 2005 Minimum: 2.6C, Maximum: 44C 2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Los Altos Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 I grow them here in coastal valley Northern California. Easy growers but a bit slow. 8 Jim in Los Altos, CA SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level zone 10a/9b sunset zone 16 300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground Las Palmas Design Facebook Page Las Palmas Design & Associates Elegant Homes and Gardens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richnorm Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 Bad photo but these are a nice palm with flat leaves and colourful undersides that can look amazing in the right light. Grow like weeds here but not sure if they would take much frost on them. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto Posted May 23 Author Report Share Posted May 23 8 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said: I grow them here in coastal valley Northern California. Easy growers but a bit slow. Nice! I suspect your place is frost free, Jim? Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil. Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm I am seeking for cold hardy palms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto Posted May 23 Author Report Share Posted May 23 7 hours ago, richnorm said: Bad photo but these are a nice palm with flat leaves and colourful undersides that can look amazing in the right light. Grow like weeds here but not sure if they would take much frost on them. Nice palm! What do you mean with " grow like weeds" . Are they fast there or they pop up everywhere? Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil. Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm I am seeking for cold hardy palms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richnorm Posted May 23 Report Share Posted May 23 They are easy to grow with no special care and produce copious amounts of seed which germinates in the garden. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto Posted May 23 Author Report Share Posted May 23 Ok, thanks! Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil. Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm I am seeking for cold hardy palms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Los Altos Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 21 hours ago, Alberto said: Nice! I suspect your place is frost free, Jim? The garden is frost free for the most part but light frost does affect my area in general a few times per winter. No below freezing temperatures though since 2007. 2 Jim in Los Altos, CA SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level zone 10a/9b sunset zone 16 300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground Las Palmas Design Facebook Page Las Palmas Design & Associates Elegant Homes and Gardens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmiz Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 Here's my minor pritchardia, hopefully it's the real deal. 🙏 way too early to tell 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDave Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 On 5/22/2023 at 3:41 PM, tim_brissy_13 said: The must be certainly the most cool hardy Pritchardia but not certain on absolute cold. There are mature beauties growing in relatively cool locations in NZ but they probably rarely seeing sub freezing temperatures. I’ve got a few seedlings but can’t comment on absolute cold hardiness yet (I’ll see how they go over the next few months). That looks more like P. martii in your picture. Beautiful, whatever it is! Let's keep our forum fun and friendly. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDave Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, Palmiz said: Here's my minor pritchardia, hopefully it's the real deal. 🙏 way too early to tell Did you get that one from me? If you did, it's a martii. Let's keep our forum fun and friendly. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmiz Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 14 minutes ago, DoomsDave said: Did you get that one from me? If you did, it's a martii. No, I got that from Mark M. I did get Martii from though Dave thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_brissy_13 Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 4 hours ago, DoomsDave said: That looks more like P. martii in your picture. Beautiful, whatever it is! Pretty confident it’s P minor. Here’s another angle of the same palm which shows the inflorescence which I think more closely matches the P minor description rather the P martii (although I know martii is highly variable). I think the petioles may just be stretched more than typical because it has been grown in partial shade. Also, this palm is in the Landsendt garden just out of Auckland. I took these photos about 4 years ago. It’s quite a heat deprived climate, I’d expect P martii would be a tough grow there. From what I know, P minor is relatively common (at least compared to other Pritchardia sp) in Northern NZ whereas I didn’t see any P martii when I visited.@richnormmaybe you could confirm? 3 Tim Brisbane Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia Rarely Frost 2005 Minimum: 2.6C, Maximum: 44C 2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richnorm Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 6 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said: Pretty confident it’s P minor. Here’s another angle of the same palm which shows the inflorescence which I think more closely matches the P minor description rather the P martii (although I know martii is highly variable). I think the petioles may just be stretched more than typical because it has been grown in partial shade. Also, this palm is in the Landsendt garden just out of Auckland. I took these photos about 4 years ago. It’s quite a heat deprived climate, I’d expect P martii would be a tough grow there. From what I know, P minor is relatively common (at least compared to other Pritchardia sp) in Northern NZ whereas I didn’t see any P martii when I visited.@richnormmaybe you could confirm? Yeah, pink and fuzzy inflorescence so surely must be minor. There seems to be two forms here, this one is larger all round. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_brissy_13 Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 2 hours ago, richnorm said: Yeah, pink and fuzzy inflorescence so surely must be minor. There seems to be two forms here, this one is larger all round. Rich, is your one what you would call the larger form too? Hard to judge scale from your photo. Tim Brisbane Patterson Lakes, bayside Melbourne, Australia Rarely Frost 2005 Minimum: 2.6C, Maximum: 44C 2005 Average: 17.2C, warmest on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto Posted May 26 Author Report Share Posted May 26 Very nice palm. It must feel at home in NZ' s fresh and humid island climate.... Carambeí, 2nd tableland of the State Paraná , south Brazil. Alt:1030m. Native palms: Queen, B. eriospatha, B. microspadix, Allagoptera leucocalyx , A.campestris, Geonoma schottiana, Trithrinax acanthocoma. Subtr. climate, some frosty nights. No dry season. August: driest month. Rain:1700mm I am seeking for cold hardy palms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike in kurtistown Posted May 26 Report Share Posted May 26 P. martii seeds are about three times the size of P. minor seeds. 3 Mike Merritt Big Island of Hawaii, windward, rainy side, 740 feet (225 meters) elevation 165 inches (4,200 mm) of rain per year, 66 to 83 deg F (20 to 28 deg C) in summer, 62 to 80 deg F (16.7 to 26.7 Deg C) in winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richnorm Posted May 27 Report Share Posted May 27 16 hours ago, tim_brissy_13 said: Rich, is your one what you would call the larger form too? Hard to judge scale from your photo. Yeah, leaves are about 120cm across. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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