DAVEinMB Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Just thought I'd share how some of my plants faired now that we're into spring. Lytocaryum Hoehnei I have 2 of these in the ground, both got wrapped in Christmas lights. They are proving to be pretty tough palms Lytocaryum Insigne I also have 2 of these in the ground and they made it through with Christmas lights and 5 gallon buckets over them Arenga Engleri I put a bucket over it but gave it no heat. It ended up spear pulling but is pushing me growth Oleander Completely defoliated but is beginning to recover Chamaedorea Cataractum Lost the smaller of the 2 clumps I had in the ground. This one looks like it will recover Yucca Elephantipes C9 bulbs and 4 blankets. This one stayed toasty. Strelitzia Nikolai Looks like it's going to recover Phoenix (I think?) I really don't know what the hell this is. Partial spear pull but it's recovering. Had a bucket over it Strelitzia Reginae Recovering. These are pretty tough Uruguay Syagrus Had zero hope that this little guy was going to make it but it's a trooper. Stromanthe Triostar Not sure if this will recover but it is trying Abreojos Syagrus Spear pulled and trunk cut. Trucking right along Mystery Phoenix Spear pulled but recovered Phoenix Roebelenii x Dactylifera Came through strong Grapefruit Trees I have 2 in the ground; both defoliated but are recovering quickly Rhapis Excelsa No protection, only lost a couple stalks CIDP Spear pulled and trunk cut, finally pushing out the last of the rot Thaumatophyllum Bipinnatifidum Recovering from the roots Chamaedorea Microspadix Ended up losing a couple of the taller stalks on some of my clumps but all in all they did pretty well Shell Ginger Recovering from the roots Washingtonia Robusta Got beat up pretty good bit is recovering Livistona Chinensis Also took a bit of a beating but is recovering and flowering Mule Palm Pretty extensive trunk cut. Is recovering 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 You have some very interesting zone pushes there. Most I know very little about but you have quite the exotic list. 1 YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@tntropics - 60+ In-ground 7A palms - (Sabal) minor(7 large + 27 seedling size, 3 dwarf), brazoria(1) , birmingham(4), etonia (1) louisiana(5), palmetto (1), riverside (1), (Trachycarpus) fortunei(7), wagnerianus(1), Rhapidophyllum hystrix(7), 15' Mule-Butia x Syagrus(1), Blue Butia capitata(1) +Tons of tropical plants. Recent Yearly Lows -1F, 12F, 11F, 18F, 16F, 3F, 3F, 6F, 3F, 1F, 16F, 17F, 6F, 8F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPalmTree Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 looks good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVEinMB Posted April 11 Author Report Share Posted April 11 58 minutes ago, Allen said: You have some very interesting zone pushes there. Most I know very little about but you have quite the exotic list. Thanks, I've had pretty good luck with most of the pushes I'm trying but have lost some along the way. My goal when I started this venture was to populate the garden with things you don't see around here. So far we're on our way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVEinMB Posted April 11 Author Report Share Posted April 11 53 minutes ago, PaPalmTree said: looks good Thanks man 🤙 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las Palmas Norte Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Lookin' down right tropical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVEinMB Posted April 14 Author Report Share Posted April 14 Gonna add another survivor to the list Beaucarnea Recurvata (ponytail palm) didn't protect this one and as you can see it completely defoliated. Still has life in it tho, starting to push out new growth near its base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoPalma Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 On 4/11/2023 at 11:36 AM, DAVEinMB said: Just thought I'd share how some of my plants faired now that we're into spring. Lytocaryum Hoehnei I have 2 of these in the ground, both got wrapped in Christmas lights. They are proving to be pretty tough palms Lytocaryum Insigne I also have 2 of these in the ground and they made it through with Christmas lights and 5 gallon buckets over them Arenga Engleri I put a bucket over it but gave it no heat. It ended up spear pulling but is pushing me growth Oleander Completely defoliated but is beginning to recover Chamaedorea Cataractum Lost the smaller of the 2 clumps I had in the ground. This one looks like it will recover Yucca Elephantipes C9 bulbs and 4 blankets. This one stayed toasty. Strelitzia Nikolai Looks like it's going to recover Phoenix (I think?) I really don't know what the hell this is. Partial spear pull but it's recovering. Had a bucket over it Strelitzia Reginae Recovering. These are pretty tough Uruguay Syagrus Had zero hope that this little guy was going to make it but it's a trooper. Stromanthe Triostar Not sure if this will recover but it is trying Abreojos Syagrus Spear pulled and trunk cut. Trucking right along Mystery Phoenix Spear pulled but recovered Phoenix Roebelenii x Dactylifera Came through strong Grapefruit Trees I have 2 in the ground; both defoliated but are recovering quickly Rhapis Excelsa No protection, only lost a couple stalks CIDP Spear pulled and trunk cut, finally pushing out the last of the rot Thaumatophyllum Bipinnatifidum Recovering from the roots Chamaedorea Microspadix Ended up losing a couple of the taller stalks on some of my clumps but all in all they did pretty well Shell Ginger Recovering from the roots Washingtonia Robusta Got beat up pretty good bit is recovering Livistona Chinensis Also took a bit of a beating but is recovering and flowering Mule Palm Pretty extensive trunk cut. Is recovering Im very surprised to see how many things can grow in a myrtle beach yard. It is very interesting and cheers to you for having most of your exotics go through that cold weather surviving! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff zone 8 N.C. Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Good to see all those survivors. How long duration was the low and what were other lows? Your gonna need bigger buckets next year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanK Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Surprised the Livistona fared better than the mule. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 Great results! Your Lytocaryum are awesome. Wish I could grow them. I’ve tried but they can’t take 6-7 months of swelter, esp. at night. 1 Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVEinMB Posted April 14 Author Report Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, ChicagoPalma said: Im very surprised to see how many things can grow in a myrtle beach yard. It is very interesting and cheers to you for having most of your exotics go through that cold weather surviving! I've also been pretty surprised, wonder how long I'll be able to keep it going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVEinMB Posted April 14 Author Report Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Jeff zone 8 N.C. said: Good to see all those survivors. How long duration was the low and what were other lows? Your gonna need bigger buckets next year! I'm not sure what the ultimate duration was but we did get above freezing during the day. My weather station recorded 3 consecutive nights at 13F, 14F, and 14F Lol right! Might as well just build a giant pergola over the whole area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVEinMB Posted April 14 Author Report Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, SeanK said: Surprised the Livistona fared better than the mule. Yea this is my first experience with either of them at this low of a temp. I have 5 mules and 3 of them look completely unfazed. The other 2 are hurting to different degrees. My understanding is the bud of l. Chinensis is solid into the high single digits and foliage burn happens around 20F. I had no problem with either species last year after freezing rain and 19F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVEinMB Posted April 14 Author Report Share Posted April 14 43 minutes ago, PalmatierMeg said: Great results! Your Lytocaryum are awesome. Wish I could grow them. I’ve tried but they can’t take 6-7 months of swelter, esp. at night. Thanks Meg! We don't stay hot nearly as long as you do but they seem to handle the heat and humidity fairly well here. Fingers crossed I keep having good luck with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff zone 8 N.C. Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 15 minutes ago, DAVEinMB said: I'm not sure what the ultimate duration was but we did get above freezing during the day. My weather station recorded 3 consecutive nights at 13F, 14F, and 14F Lol right! Might as well just build a giant pergola over the whole area Those temps are even more impressive for those survivors. Gives me hope. We only went to a low of 18F which does not usually happen between me and Myrtle Beach but does at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVEinMB Posted April 14 Author Report Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, Jeff zone 8 N.C. said: Those temps are even more impressive for those survivors. Gives me hope. We only went to a low of 18F which does not usually happen between me and Myrtle Beach but does at times. My local weather station reported ultimate lows closer to 18F but my sensors were showing much lower. Calibration could be off but it was consistent across all 3 zones so I'm guessing I just saw a cold pocket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 1 hour ago, DAVEinMB said: Thanks Meg! We don't stay hot nearly as long as you do but they seem to handle the heat and humidity fairly well here. Fingers crossed I keep having good luck with them I think my problem is that my summers are way longer than yours and night temps average higher - up to 80F or more. I believe that even though your days can be as hot as SWFL, your nights fall low enough, often enough to provide a modicum of relief for a 3-4 month summer. During our rainy season, night time lows almost never fall below 70F until late Oct. That night time drop triggers dry season as if you turned off a faucet. I think Lytocaryum, like some other genera, require a significant drop in night time temps for relief after a hot, humid day. If they don’t get that relief the overwhelming swelter kills them. In much of CA 95 degree days are followed by 55 degree nights. A 55F night is my average low for Jan. That and lower humidity allows palms to survive that have no chance in FL or even SC. 1 Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcerPALMatum Posted April 14 Report Share Posted April 14 15 hours ago, DAVEinMB said: Gonna add another survivor to the list Beaucarnea Recurvata (ponytail palm) didn't protect this one and as you can see it completely defoliated. Still has life in it tho, starting to push out new growth near its base Ponytail palm can survive in ground at 13 degrees without protection?? Dang. I should try one. Is it in a very protected location? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVEinMB Posted April 14 Author Report Share Posted April 14 2 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said: I think my problem is that my summers are way longer than yours and night temps average higher - up to 80F or more. I believe that even though your days can be as hot as SWFL, your nights fall low enough, often enough to provide a modicum of relief for a 3-4 month summer. During our rainy season, night time lows almost never fall below 70F until late Oct. That night time drop triggers dry season as if you turned off a faucet. I think Lytocaryum, like some other genera, require a significant drop in night time temps for relief after a hot, humid day. If they don’t get that relief the overwhelming swelter kills them. In much of CA 95 degree days are followed by 55 degree nights. A 55F night is my average low for Jan. That and lower humidity allows palms to survive that have no chance in FL or even SC. That makes perfect sense, especially given their native climate. It's pretty funny that I can say I'm cold enough to grow a tropical palm haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVEinMB Posted April 14 Author Report Share Posted April 14 24 minutes ago, AcerPALMatum said: Ponytail palm can survive in ground at 13 degrees without protection?? Dang. I should try one. Is it in a very protected location? It's not out of the woods yet but it hasn't given up so we'll see. It's up against an eastern facing wall with a bit of pine canopy and Northern wind protection from bamboo and the house of course. I lost a queen about 10' from it to the same cold front. Queen was protected 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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