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Just took a quick detour on my way home to see how the Washingtonias fared the winter.. There were a few storms where the temps dropped below 20f..  

Here are a few pics.. these saw around 15f... they might green up.. but dont look to be totally defoliated.  Saw another trachy too so snapped a pic of that one..

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Those Washingtonia look just fine. They should rebound nicely this year.

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No palm killing events this winter.  How are your jubuea cross palms leaf hardiness compared to you filifera 's? 

About a half zone higher than a zonal winter! 

Here's mine after that February 14/16f event.  Pic taken 2/19/23 (the small leaners are mostly drought damaged-roots).  

 

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2 hours ago, jwitt said:

No palm killing events this winter.  How are your jubuea cross palms leaf hardiness compared to you filifera 's? 

About a half zone higher than a zonal winter! 

Here's mine after that February 14/16f event.  Pic taken 2/19/23 (the small leaners are mostly drought damaged-roots).  

 

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The south is not perfect, but there will be that one area palms will love to grow and thrive in

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On 3/15/2023 at 7:00 PM, ChicagoPalma said:

The south is not perfect, but there will be that one area palms will love to grow and thrive in

Today 

4000' difference

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 3/15/2023 at 4:04 PM, SailorBold said:

Just took a quick detour on my way home to see how the Washingtonias fared the winter.. There were a few storms where the temps dropped below 20f..  

Here are a few pics.. these saw around 15f... they might green up.. but dont look to be totally defoliated.  Saw another trachy too so snapped a pic of that one..

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Thanks for the update on those beautiful palms, they look good, should make a speedy recovery this season.

On 3/15/2023 at 7:45 PM, jwitt said:

No palm killing events this winter.  How are your jubuea cross palms leaf hardiness compared to you filifera 's? 

About a half zone higher than a zonal winter! 

Here's mine after that February 14/16f event.  Pic taken 2/19/23 (the small leaners are mostly drought damaged-roots).  

 

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Your palms look great and that sunset is perfect, thanks for sharing!

Did you guys see my Albuquerque area palm locations map? I posted it a week or so ago. I made a map of all the palm locations I know of in the Albuquerque area with Google Maps street view links to them. Let me know of any other palms around town to add to the map, there are definitely lots more around. Thanks and keep up the great work!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=13GDxHuOpdXaDEDEGTOq_IEuvQ6HbUA8&ll=34.94215462524108%2C-106.63629619999999&z=10

 

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On 3/15/2023 at 2:04 PM, SailorBold said:

Just took a quick detour on my way home to see how the Washingtonias fared the winter.. There were a few storms where the temps dropped below 20f..  

Here are a few pics.. these saw around 15f... they might green up.. but dont look to be totally defoliated.  Saw another trachy too so snapped a pic of that one..

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I thought these were pure filiferas?

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5 hours ago, Ltapia said:

I thought these were pure filiferas?

These are most likely Robusta x Filifera hybrids.. (most of the time hybrids show dominant features from the 'mother'..ive found this to be true with washingtonias) the leaves are several degrees hardier than robusta to freeze damage...and the trunks are alot thicker.. but not as thick as pure filifera.. 

Some of the problem with leaf bronzing here is desication from wind.. my filiferas were slightly damaged from the winter.. but showed more damage after wind.. most of that damage recovered but there is a lull in soil temps going into spring where there may not be as much water movement in the trunks to replenish the moisture loss..

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On 3/17/2023 at 9:06 PM, Alex High said:

Thanks for the update on those beautiful palms, they look good, should make a speedy recovery this season.

Your palms look great and that sunset is perfect, thanks for sharing!

Did you guys see my Albuquerque area palm locations map? I posted it a week or so ago. I made a map of all the palm locations I know of in the Albuquerque area with Google Maps street view links to them. Let me know of any other palms around town to add to the map, there are definitely lots more around. Thanks and keep up the great work!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=13GDxHuOpdXaDEDEGTOq_IEuvQ6HbUA8&ll=34.94215462524108%2C-106.63629619999999&z=10

 

Really dig what you did here.. I dont know where to Start to add.. there's alot more.. I can't remember half of the streets I was on!

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On 3/15/2023 at 5:45 PM, jwitt said:

No palm killing events this winter.  How are your jubuea cross palms leaf hardiness compared to you filifera 's? 

About a half zone higher than a zonal winter! 

Here's mine after that February 14/16f event.  Pic taken 2/19/23 (the small leaners are mostly drought damaged-roots).  

 

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Way more leaf hardy.. id guess 3-4 degrees to show damage over filifera.. the jxb f3 spear is where I'd see it first..  bxjxb is hardier too.. by 1-2f..  with a hardy spear.. roughly same in older leaves..  

Please don't take offense if I don't respond right away..!

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3 hours ago, SailorBold said:

Way more leaf hardy.. id guess 3-4 degrees to show damage over filifera.. the jxb f3 spear is where I'd see it first..  bxjxb is hardier too.. by 1-2f..  with a hardy spear.. roughly same in older leaves..  

Please don't take offense if I don't respond right away..!

That is so cool! 

No offense at all.  Heck, it's a short hop to satisfy the "disease"! 

Was your seed viable?

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On 3/15/2023 at 3:04 PM, SailorBold said:

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I'm guessing lawn sprinklers aren't a thing in a yard full of rocks. Do palms in areas like this get watered in until establishment? Do they require supplemental watering at this size?

I did an experiment last year with 10 various 1-5gal palms, straight into the ground on a property that I wasn't living on. No water but the rain, not even at the time of planting! 4 of them from the most open, full sun area made it Aug-May (when I retrieved them) while the ones with some shade... got flattened by a construction crew.  Plants that don't need to be pampered when in-ground hold so much more interest for me than the rest.

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4 hours ago, SailorBold said:

These are most likely Robusta x Filifera hybrids.. (most of the time hybrids show dominant features from the 'mother'..ive found this to be true with washingtonias) the leaves are several degrees hardier than robusta to freeze damage...and the trunks are alot thicker.. but not as thick as pure filifera.. 

Some of the problem with leaf bronzing here is desication from wind.. my filiferas were slightly damaged from the winter.. but showed more damage after wind.. most of that damage recovered but there is a lull in soil temps going into spring where there may not be as much water movement in the trunks to replenish the moisture loss..

Thanks for the information …

Do you know a reliable source for some pure filfiera seeds ?

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