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LF Rare Chamaedoreas


danx

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Attached is the name list. These are certainly far from common, so looking to find that special collector that either wants to trade or sell these. 
 

Thanks :)

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That is one incredible want list for sure. Many of the species are super rare, if they are or were ever in cultivation. By the way, you listed Chamaedorea stenocarpa twice.

Offering background, I have only seen three of them at S. Florida events, sales, collections, auctions, etc. The Blue Form of C. tuerckheimii had appeared along side the Veracruz Form at a few older sales as one-time, 'shipped in' plants from places unknown. They had super high prices, fame, excitement, the usual fanfare. They did not appear afterwards and discussion lent to the idea they did not grow well in S. Florida, similar to that of the regular species. Specimens could be around in higher altitude locales, custom growing environments, etc.

The closely related C. pumila has been at sales and in container collections and exists in very small, protected colonies. Both sexes will flower and fruit in small containers, similar to that of C. tuerckheimii. I know of one colony that currently resides in a single, large clay pot, but the owner would never part with them. Many plants in cultivation could still be labeled under the old name, C. sullivaniorum, which was used extensively after it was authored in 1990, prior to it being lumped back in with C. pumila.

The third is Chamaedorea dammeriana which is a very cool little palm with ornately detailed juvenile leaves. It looks awesome in a small pot and stands out. They seem to be rarer now than they were about ten years ago. Plants are around in collections, but I do not know of any in production.

For the rest of the list.... good luck. Chamaedorea species have been very popular collectors items for a long time, so anything is possible. The next post could be a seller with five of each. Their dioecious nature (separate male/female plants) does not help with cultivating them. Keep searching...

Ryan

South Florida

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Thanks Ryan. That is great info for sure. 

Sounds like it would almost be cheaper and faster to go to Central America and hire a guide, haha. 

I’ve been wanting to go for a while :)  

We have similar oolite to Costa Rica, so would the reason they don’t grow well here be the dry colder winters? Or something completely different?

 

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1 hour ago, danx said:

... We have similar oolite to Costa Rica, so would the reason they don’t grow well here be the dry colder winters? Or something completely different?

Many of the species on your list are native to higher altitude environs and do not like hot, dry conditions. Some are found in cool, moist cloud forests year-round. If you can make it to Costa Rica it is worth it for palm fandom.

Ryan

South Florida

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33 minutes ago, Palmarum said:

Many of the species on your list are native to higher altitude environs and do not like hot, dry conditions. Some are found in cool, moist cloud forests year-round. If you can make it to Costa Rica it is worth it for palm fandom.

Ryan

Awesome. Thanks again, Ryan. 

i’m experimenting with cloud forest environments. I’m trying to build my yard out like a botanical garden lol. In the rainforest section, the soil stays pretty wet and cool because of the shade. We’ll see how it goes, I’ve already planted a bunch that have similar requirements. Time shall tell, haha. 

Central America is on my list. I just got back from Seychelles in November.  I think Indonesia in May.  

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