Steele2003 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 I have a triple king palm and a double king palm planted about 3 feet apart. Is this an issue? The guy that planted them says it isn't. They are around 6 feet tall right now. I can't find any info online regarding this. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 Photos? Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96720 Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 For me it wouldn’t be an issue because I love palms planted close but to some they would probably say they were too close!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awkonradi Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 (edited) 15 hours ago, Steele2003 said: I have a triple king palm and a double king palm planted about 3 feet apart. Is this an issue? The guy that planted them says it isn't. They are around 6 feet tall right now. I can't find any info online regarding this. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you in advance. Imagine how your palms will look when they are much larger. If you like that look, then you are fine! Given adequate water and fertilizer, closely spaced king palms will thrive. I agree with PalmatierMeg. Please post photos, so the experts here can provide the best guidance how to keep your king palms healthy. Edited January 17 by awkonradi 2 Andrei W. Konradi, Burlingame, California. Vicarious appreciator of palms in other people's gardens and in habitat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxpalms Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 15 hours ago, Steele2003 said: I have a triple king palm and a double king palm planted about 3 feet apart. Is this an issue? The guy that planted them says it isn't. They are around 6 feet tall right now. I can't find any info online regarding this. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you in advance. King palm trunks aren't particularly big but it depends what direction they are growing in. The only issue I can think of is if they end up growing towards each other but other than that they should be fine. I'm guessing even if they are angled slightly they will just end grow vertically and avoid each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 What species are they? I have all of them and while some stay fairly gracile (alexandrae, myolensis) others (some cunninghamiana, tuckeri) can get very large trunks - 12” to 14” diameter. My Archonotophoenix are solitary as nature intended so maybe your trios and duos will stunt one another’s growth so crowding won’t be an issue. And I agree Archos want to grow straight so may resist growing away from each other in the dramatic, swooping arc you may be seeking. 1 Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDesign Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 I've posted these photos before, but here are my stats in case it's helpful... Triple king purchased at a small size 10 years ago (from a big box store). Total width of the base is 22" across (that's an 18" ruler in the photo, and my shoe size is Women's 10) The BASE of the triple king is still far from the glass fence, but one of the TRUNKS is getting close to the glass fence (looks like we'll be ok, but makes me a little nervous). As the three palms grew, they started pushing each other out, so make sure you have room for the trunks to spread like is shown in the photo. The three palms don't seem to be competing for nutrients as far as I can tell, but I do give them plenty of water & occasional palm fertilizer. If you can post a photo of your planting that would help a lot in judging whether the planting is going to work from a spacing perspective. But king palms are often planted in groups so I wouldn't be too concerned about nutrient competition (as long as you give them plenty of water, and occasional palm fertilizer). Hope that helps! 2 Stacey Wright | Graphic Designer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Los Altos Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 (edited) I have over 50 in my landscape and only a few are solitary. In their natural habitat, they are often found in dense groves, often with trunks touching each other. The rest of mine are in fairly tight groves. There are no issues with planting them close together. Just remember that they are a semi-aquatic species and need lots of water year round. You can’t over-water them. What growing zone are you in may I ask? Edited January 17 by Jim in Los Altos 10 3 Jim in Los Altos, CA SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level zone 10a/9b sunset zone 16 300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground Las Palmas Design Facebook Page Las Palmas Design & Associates Elegant Homes and Gardens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxpalms Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 (edited) @Jim in Los AltosThose king palms look really nice clustered together. I might plant plant a few groups of them here after seeing how nice they look like that, you can never had enough archontophoenix! Edited January 17 by Foxpalms 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 8 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said: Photos? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 took this photo last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 22 hours ago, Steele2003 said: I have a triple king palm and a double king palm planted about 3 feet apart. Is this an issue? The guy that planted them says it isn't. They are around 6 feet tall right now. I can't find any info online regarding this. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 8 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said: Photos? I can take more photos if that would help. Took me a minute to figure out how to upload pic. Thanks to all giving advice. You can't tell from this pic but the one to the left is a double and the one to the right is a triple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 5 hours ago, PalmatierMeg said: What species are they? I have all of them and while some stay fairly gracile (alexandrae, myolensis) others (some cunninghamiana, tuckeri) can get very large trunks - 12” to 14” diameter. My Archonotophoenix are solitary as nature intended so maybe your trios and duos will stunt one another’s growth so crowding won’t be an issue. And I agree Archos want to grow straight so may resist growing away from each other in the dramatic, swooping arc you may be seeking. Hope you can tell by the picture. I was just told they are king palms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 4 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said: I have over 50 in my landscape and only a few are solitary. In their natural habitat, they are often found in dense groves, often with trunks touching each other. The rest of mine are in fairly tight groves. There are no issues with planting them close together. Just remember that they are a semi-aquatic species and need lots of water year round. You can’t over-water them. What growing zone are you in may I ask? 10a in Tustin, CA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 10a Tustin, CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Los Altos Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 3 hours ago, Steele2003 said: 10a in Tustin, CA. Great climate there! Just keep those King palms well watered and they will reward you with lush growth. 1 1 Jim in Los Altos, CA SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level zone 10a/9b sunset zone 16 300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground Las Palmas Design Facebook Page Las Palmas Design & Associates Elegant Homes and Gardens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 18 Author Report Share Posted January 18 15 minutes ago, Jim in Los Altos said: Great climate there! Just keep those King palms well watered and they will reward you with lush growth. Thx, not too close together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDesign Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 From a health perspective they’ll be fine (assuming they’re well watered). From a cosmetic perspective, I’m not sure 🤔 Multi trunk king palm plantings look nice since the trunks bow away from each other. Single trunk king palms planted closely (like @Jim in Los Altosdoes) also look amazing, and their straighter trunks eliminate the “bowing” factor, allowing for super close placements (even to structures). I’ve never personally seen two multi trunk plantings put in close proximity, so I’m not sure how the trunks in that setup would look later. Would the trunks criss-cross? Bow away from each other? I’m having a hard time picturing the final effect. Could result in an awesome “jungle” look, but I’d personally be inclined to move one of the groupings (only due to lack of ability to picture the final effect). * That said, if Jim says your multi plantings will look great as-is, I’d say leave ‘em (he’s worked with them for more years than I have, and does beautiful landscape work). 1 Stacey Wright | Graphic Designer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 18 Author Report Share Posted January 18 13 hours ago, iDesign said: From a health perspective they’ll be fine (assuming they’re well watered). From a cosmetic perspective, I’m not sure 🤔 Multi trunk king palm plantings look nice since the trunks bow away from each other. Single trunk king palms planted closely (like @Jim in Los Altosdoes) also look amazing, and their straighter trunks eliminate the “bowing” factor, allowing for super close placements (even to structures). I’ve never personally seen two multi trunk plantings put in close proximity, so I’m not sure how the trunks in that setup would look later. Would the trunks criss-cross? Bow away from each other? I’m having a hard time picturing the final effect. Could result in an awesome “jungle” look, but I’d personally be inclined to move one of the groupings (only due to lack of ability to picture the final effect). * That said, if Jim says your multi plantings will look great as-is, I’d say leave ‘em (he’s worked with them for more years than I have, and does beautiful landscape work). I have all the same questions. I can't really find images of 2 multiples planted so close together. Looking at the width of the base of your triple concerns me that the base of my 2 (double and triple) will sort of grow together or push on each other. Jim sort of addressed it but I'm not sure if he has seen the pic. Hopefully he'll chime in again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 18 Author Report Share Posted January 18 14 hours ago, Steele2003 said: Thx, not too close together 14 hours ago, Jim in Los Altos said: Great climate there! Just keep those King palms well watered and they will reward you with lush growth. I have all the same questions. I can't really find images of 2 multiples planted so close together. Looking at the width of the base of your triple concerns me that the base of my 2 (double and triple) will sort of grow together or push on each other. Jim sort of addressed it but I'm not sure if he has seen the pic. Hopefully he'll chime in again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Los Altos Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 7 hours ago, Steele2003 said: I have all the same questions. I can't really find images of 2 multiples planted so close together. Looking at the width of the base of your triple concerns me that the base of my 2 (double and triple) will sort of grow together or push on each other. Jim sort of addressed it but I'm not sure if he has seen the pic. Hopefully he'll chime in again Yours will be fine. Lots of mine are growing in tight multiples happily. 3 2 Jim in Los Altos, CA SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level zone 10a/9b sunset zone 16 300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground Las Palmas Design Facebook Page Las Palmas Design & Associates Elegant Homes and Gardens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 19 Author Report Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Jim in Los Altos said: Yours will be fine. Lots of mine are growing in tight multiples happily. Thanks for the pics and input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDave Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 28 minutes ago, Steele2003 said: Thanks for the pics and input. What @Jim in Los Altos said! Give them LOTS of water, err on the side of flooding if you can. They are worth it. 2 1 Let's keep our forum fun and friendly. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDave Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 So @Steele2003 nice to meet you! Where’s your garden? Knowing that will help us help you. Let's keep our forum fun and friendly. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 19 Author Report Share Posted January 19 39 minutes ago, DoomsDave said: So @Steele2003 nice to meet you! Where’s your garden? Knowing that will help us help you. Front yard planter...Tustin, cA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDave Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 10 minutes ago, Steele2003 said: Front yard planter...Tustin, cA. Ah! Right down the road from me, I'm in La Habra. If you're interested in a garden tour, I'm usually up for one with a bit of notice, like a day or so. I've got half an acre, been here for 20 years. Let me know. The palms in the picture I posted are in my garden, along with lots of others. 2 Let's keep our forum fun and friendly. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 19 Author Report Share Posted January 19 Thank you, I may take you up on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDave Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 On 1/17/2023 at 3:16 PM, Steele2003 said: You’ll end up with clusters much like @Jim in Los Altos’s specimens, except with a bit more height variation. 1 Let's keep our forum fun and friendly. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDave Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Kings are beautiful! But don’t be afraid to try others! 3 1 Let's keep our forum fun and friendly. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steele2003 Posted January 20 Author Report Share Posted January 20 On 1/16/2023 at 4:45 PM, Steele2003 said: I have a triple king palm and a double king palm planted about 3 feet apart. Is this an issue? The guy that planted them says it isn't. They are around 6 feet tall right now. I can't find any info online regarding this. Any advice would be helpful. Thank you in advance. Wanted to give you all an idea where I planted. Not a huge space. Thank you all again for the help. I think I'll leave it as is. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 On 1/18/2023 at 7:16 AM, Steele2003 said: They look fine and if it was me, I’d find half a dozen more to cram in there. I love the jungle look and Archontophoenix love being in a jungle. As Jim and others have said these guys can’t be overwatered and they love fertiliser in the warm season. Archontophoenix will head for the light and will eventually find there way too it. They will eventually arch away from each other. I had some community pots of Bangalow palms that I never got around to separating and they just got too big to separate. In the ground they went as they were. Now one pot had 14 individuals. I reckon a few may sacrifice themselves for the stronger ones but I reckon most will kick on and do wel. I wouldn’t recommend that approach to paying landscape customers but as I had heaps I thought I’d give it a try in the name of science. 1 Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDave Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 5 hours ago, Steele2003 said: Wanted to give you all an idea where I planted. Not a huge space. Thank you all again for the help. I think I'll leave it as is. Come visit and check out other possibilities. Bring a friend, or even an enemy if they like palms. 1 Let's keep our forum fun and friendly. Any data in this post is provided 'as is' and in no event shall I be liable for any damages, including, without limitation, damages resulting from accuracy or lack thereof, insult, or lost profits or revenue, claims by third parties or for other similar costs, or any special, incidental, or consequential damages arising out of my opinion or the use of this data. The accuracy or reliability of the data is not guaranteed or warranted in any way and I disclaim liability of any kind whatsoever, including, without limitation, liability for quality, performance, merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose arising out of the use, or inability to use my data. Other terms may apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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