ID - Palm in a hotel garden in greece

[Janni]

Hi everybody,

Once I found a nursery  on crete, that promotes a large variety of tropical palms. Main customers of that nursery are Hotels. By searching on google, I found a very interesting picture, but cannot identify one of the palms. It is the palm in the middle of the photo with the thin bluish trunk. Can anybody help me?

Here is the link:  https://www.google.de/maps/place/Dedalos+Hotel/@35.2860228,25.459874,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNW48mC8SDCjpKrF15OvSNBGO6O38c6INNi66OM!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNW48mC8SDCjpKrF15OvSNBGO6O38c6INNi66OM%3Dw221-h100-k-no!7i4624!8i2084!4m8!3m7!1s0x0:0xe311ca2bebdecf9a!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d35.2860228!4d25.459874 

 

[idontknowhatnametuse]

Wodyetia Bifurcata?

[Fusca]

2 hours ago, Janni said:

Hi everybody,

Once I found a nursery  on crete, that promotes a large variety of tropical palms. Main customers of that nursery are Hotels. By searching on google, I found a very interesting picture, but cannot identify one of the palms. It is the palm in the middle of the photo with the thin bluish trunk. Can anybody help me?

Here is the link:  https://www.google.de/maps/place/Dedalos+Hotel/@35.2860228,25.459874,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNW48mC8SDCjpKrF15OvSNBGO6O38c6INNi66OM!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNW48mC8SDCjpKrF15OvSNBGO6O38c6INNi66OM%3Dw221-h100-k-no!7i4624!8i2084!4m8!3m7!1s0x0:0xe311ca2bebdecf9a!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d35.2860228!4d25.459874 

 

Are you referring to the one just to the right of the Chamaerops?  It looks like maybe Euterpe edulis or one of the solitary Ptychosperma?

[idontknowhatnametuse]

1 hour ago, Fusca said:

Are you referring to the one just to the right of the Chamaerops?  It looks like maybe Euterpe edulis or one of the solitary Ptychosperma?

Looks like a solitary chrysalidocarpus lutescens

[Janni]

16 hours ago, Fusca said:

Are you referring to the one just to the right of the Chamaerops?  It looks like maybe Euterpe edulis or one of the solitary Ptychosperma?

Yes, that one. I think euterpe edulis might be the right guess. 

[Janni]

14 hours ago, idontknowhatnametuse said:

Looks like a solitary chrysalidocarpus lutescens

The shape of the palm does really look like a solitary dypsis lutescens. But I don't think it is one, because of the bluish trunk. At least, I don't know of D. Lutescens with bluish trunks. I know of green, yellow and purple D. Lutescens trunks and/or crown shafts, but no blue.

[SeanK]

I have to chuckle. $30 (or €30?) But still cheap. Listed as. 1* hotel. I've traveled a lot and a one-star in front of the ocean (+tropics) beats five-star in Chicago hands down!

[Phoenikakias]

Chrysalidocarpus madagascariensis. Somehow they do exist in Crete.

Edited September 23, 2022 by Phoenikakias

[Janni]

D. Madagascariensis sounds like a good guess as well. 

btw, why are you both referring to the palms as chrysalidocarpus and not as dypsis? I thought dypsis is the newer name of the genus or did I miss something?

[Billy]

39 minutes ago, Janni said:

I thought dypsis is the newer name of the genus or did I miss something?

We kinda went back in time on that one. Lots of palms that were formerly Dypsis are now Chrysalidocarpus. If I remember correctly, Lutescens was labeled as Chrysalidocarpus in "Palms of the World" book by David L Jones. I had a laugh when first reading but now it all makes sense...I guess.

[Phoenikakias]

1 hour ago, Janni said:

D. Madagascariensis sounds like a good guess as well. 

btw, why are you both referring to the palms as chrysalidocarpus and not as dypsis? I thought dypsis is the newer name of the genus or did I miss something?

Reclassification. You need an update.

[Mikelzz]

chrysalidocarpus lutescens    ( name changed back from dypsis ) for sure ... and many of them do have blue-ish trunks when the leaves first drop ..

 

[Janni]

👍 thanks to all. I know now, that I need an update.