Attalea cohune

[96720]

Any tips on growing Attalea! I know it’s a shot in the dark but I think it would be a neat palm in my jungle!!

[JubaeaMan138]

I’ve got lots of different attaleas I’ve grown from seed . They prefer warmer temps and lots of water  but also won’t take full inland sun at a young age so keep them shaded for a while . 

[kylecawazafla]

Here's an Attalea in Palm Desert, CA for inspiration! Good luck! 

[idontknowhatnametuse]

they can grow fine in my climate, it will most likely have no problem in yours.

[Merlyn]

They grow fine here in Florida, but are not cold- or frost-hardy.  Cohune defoliates anywhere below 30F (especially with frost).  In a slightly protected location Attalea Butyracea and Phalerata handled the cold better with only a bit of burn as strap leafers.  Brejinhoensis is so far the toughest, handling 24-25F as a 5g planting with minimal damage.  It had one Arenga frond hanging over the top of it, protecting it from frost. 

[JubaeaMan138]

1 hour ago, Merlyn said:

They grow fine here in Florida, but are not cold- or frost-hardy.  Cohune defoliates anywhere below 30F (especially with frost).  In a slightly protected location Attalea Butyracea and Phalerata handled the cold better with only a bit of burn as strap leafers.  Brejinhoensis is so far the toughest, handling 24-25F as a 5g planting with minimal damage.  It had one Arenga frond hanging over the top of it, protecting it from frost. 

Interesting . Butyracea have been the most sensitive for me with crassispatha next speciosa has been the most cold Hardy . 

[Merlyn]

14 minutes ago, JubaeaMan138 said:

Interesting . Butyracea have been the most sensitive for me with crassispatha next speciosa has been the most cold Hardy . 

I should qualify my statements by saying they are almost all still really young.  I haven't tried Crassispatha or Speciosa, though I read that Speciosa was probably the toughest.  I read one report that one only took minor damage from 24-25F with frost in Sarasota.  I bought my Brejinhoensis from Neil in Cocoa Beach, Naturegirl had a few from him at a sale last year. 

My in-ground Butyracea is circled in red below, it had some frost protection from the Dendrocalamus Minor Amoenus in the background.  The tops of the culms spread out over the area and had decent frost coverage.  You can see the Zamia Picta just above it burned, and a completely torched Dictyosperma Album peeking in from the left.  This area is close to my nursery that saw 27.7F, so most likely it was around 27F minimum for 1-2 hours.

This Brejinhoensis from Neil via NatureGirl was close to the coldest spot in the yard at 24.4F, so it probably saw 24-26F for about 4 hours.  It had some frost protection from the torched Arenga Micrantha leaf above it.  The top not-yet-pinnate frond bronzed and eventually that bronze area at the end of the leaf died.  The palm looks great now, and doesn't seem to have minded the cold.  My three Cohunes are still struggling, and they were in the front yard and 3-4F warmer...

[JubaeaMan138]

10 hours ago, kylecawazafla said:

Here's an Attalea in Palm Desert, CA for inspiration! Good luck! 

This one just blows my mind . Looks good wonder the back story behind this palm 

[96720]

Would be great to know!!!

[96720]

@JubaeaMan138how much sun will they take? I will post a picture tomorrow mine gets some morning sun no sun after about noon 

[idontknowhatnametuse]

Here's the same Attalea apparently some years ago. This was posted by the user @Danilopez89

From what I remember, the palm was first discovered in this thread.

https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/46003-is-this-a-coconut-or-am-i-dreaming

Edited September 24, 2022 by idontknowhatnametuse

[96720]

This is looking to the east this is looking to the west that is my Attalea next to the water jug you can see a lot of plants shading it from the sun!

[realarch]

That Palm Desert Attalea is impressive.

Tim

[JubaeaMan138]

3 hours ago, 96720 said:

This is looking to the east this is looking to the west that is my Attalea next to the water jug you can see a lot of plants shading it from the sun!

Looking good! Here is one of my butyracea in the ground small still but growing good . Planted it this past  spring . Sprouted this one in fall October ish of 2020. 

[idontknowhatnametuse]

4 hours ago, 96720 said:

This is looking to the east this is looking to the west that is my Attalea next to the water jug you can see a lot of plants shading it from the sun!

Looks nice, you can also try planting an acrocomia near it.

[JubaeaMan138]

This crassispatha is on deck for next summer planting I have a few of these to choose from but this is the best looking one this one is in the shade on my patio 

[96720]

I don’t know if Acrocomia grows in Phoenix I do have 2 roystonea close by but for some reason they are not growing as fast as I wished!!!

[tim_brissy_13]

Attalea dubia would have to be a contender for the most cold hardy of the Attalea species. Here’s one growing at Landsendt gardens just out of Auckland. It would probably rarely get frost but there’s not a lot of heat there year round and it seems to be thriving.