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Butia x Parajubaea decisions in sub-tropical 8b


General Sylvester D. Palm
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Butia x Parajubaea sunkha vs Butia x Parajubaea cocoides  

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So last night I emailed Patric/Patrick/Patrix/Patriv Schafer to see what palms he has in stock. The three that caught my eye were Butia x Parajubaea torallyi, Butia x Parajubaea sunkha, and Butia x Parajubaea cocoides. After I did a little research I think I've come to the conclusion that the Butia x Parajubaea torallyi will be eliminated first. I personally just don't like the look of it. The 2 that I am having a really hard time deciding on which one to choose is Butia x Parajubaea sunkha and Butia x Parajubaea cocoides. Please correct me if I am wrong but I have heard that it'd be a better decision for me to choose the sunkha hybrid instead of the cocoides hybrid considering that I'm in a humid sub-tropical zone 8b. I've heard that Parajubaea sunkha handles hot and humid weather better than Parajubaea cocoides. I know that Parajubaea cocoides comes from high elevation areas which stay around 50 to 70 degrees. My main question is if I could possibly successfully grow Butia x Parajubaea cocoides in a humid sub-tropical zone 8b.

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With butia as the mother I wouldn’t be too concerned with humility with any three of the crosses. 

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52 minutes ago, RJ said:

With butia as the mother I wouldn’t be too concerned with humility with any three of the crosses. 

Yeah, I was thinking that. I just didn't know if the Parajubaea has a big effect on it or not.

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2 hours ago, General Sylvester D. Palm said:

Yeah, I was thinking that. I just didn't know if the Parajubaea has a big effect on it or not.

My BxPJT has thrived thru my hot humid summer. Granted it has been a much drier summer this year. We shall see how they do in our cold wet winters. I also have a BxPJS that I'm trying to decide where I will plant it. 

T J 

T J 

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I picked BxPJS (and BxLyto) here in swampy Florida.  I decided that I liked the looks of the BxPJS hybrids here, good photos on page 3:

I also decided that I didn't want to grow a palm for 5 years just to have it continually have leaf or crown fungal problems.  That might not be as much of a problem for you  but it is 100% humidity here from June to August.

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Butia x Parajubaea cocoides Is the most unusual and did live for me in the humid south. 

Butia x Parajubaea sunkha was slow and died prematurely. 
 

30 Year Zone Average 20F. Ryan: Contact 979.204.4161 Collectorpalms@gmail.com

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No worries with Butia (paraguayensis) x Parajubaea cocoides and heat and humidity. They also can recover from 14F (in an unheated greenhouse, with spear pull, as one gallons). Not sure about Butia X P. sunka but suspect it too will be ok.

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Everything else since looks the same unless you squint, however this cross does look different.

Didn’t this one picture pretty much start the whole obsession into hybrids! 

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30 Year Zone Average 20F. Ryan: Contact 979.204.4161 Collectorpalms@gmail.com

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