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Cornwall Palms and exotics


Foxpalms

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This is specifically for photos and information of palms and exotics in located in cornwall. I will be posting photos of palm trees and exotics not in gardens in this forum. Feel free to add to it with you're own photos or information about the palms and exotics there. 

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You beat me to this thread haha. Rather than have two separate ones (I was about to create one) I will throw some in here. Funny how we both visited around the same time! We should have met up for a beer last night! The Penzance CIDP’s are growing into imposing mammoths now…

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Dry-summer Oceanic climate (9a)

Average annual precipitation - 18.7 inches : Average annual sunshine hours - 1725

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@UK_PalmsI was going to ask the same thing in regards to the tresco thread to just add to that tomorrow rather than make a separate one. Yes haha.

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6 minutes ago, Foxpalms said:

@UK_PalmsI was going to ask the same thing in regards to the tresco thread to just add to that tomorrow rather than make a separate one. Yes haha.

I was going to ask if you are off to Tresco as well mate. And yeah by all means just add to my thread otherwise we are making duplicate threads on here. It’s actually typical how nobody on this forum has visited Penzance and Tresco in years and we have been needing updates. And then we both end up visiting the same bloody week haha! Ideally you would want it a year or two apart to see the progress. I visited Tremenheere the day after you, so you beat me to that thread as well. I may add a few of my pics to that thread. Are you going to Tresco by ferry?

Dry-summer Oceanic climate (9a)

Average annual precipitation - 18.7 inches : Average annual sunshine hours - 1725

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Really nice.  I am very jealous, been wanting to go to Tresco for at least ten years and I've still never been to Cornwall, or even the south coast.  Maybe next year it will happen at last.

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Manchester, Lancashire, England

53.4ºN, 2.2ºW, 65m AMSL

Köppen climate Cfb | USDA hardiness zone 9a

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Nice. But only one Washingtonia?

Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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2 hours ago, SoulofthePlace said:

Nice. But only one Washingtonia?

For some reason the councils in the UK very rarely plant washingtonias even in areas they would do very well in. They just seem to keep repeatedly planting cordylines. Even public CIDP plantings aren't common there are only a few. There's no reason they couldn't plant hundreds if not thousands of them along the coasts and even inland there as it's zone 10a. They could even plant kentias to mimic coconuts along the beaches.  

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1 hour ago, Foxpalms said:

For some reason the councils in the UK very rarely plant washingtonias even in areas they would do very well in. They just seem to keep repeatedly planting cordylines. Even public CIDP plantings aren't common there are only a few. There's no reason they couldn't plant hundreds if not thousands of them along the coasts and even inland there as it's zone 10a. They could even plant kentias to mimic coconuts along the beaches.  

Also they could plant the Mountain Coconut Palm (Beccariophoenix alfredii) to mimic coconuts as well as Hyophorbe verschaffeltii. And Archontophoenixes. 

Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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35 minutes ago, SoulofthePlace said:

Also they could plant the Mountain Coconut Palm (Beccariophoenix alfredii) to mimic coconuts as well as Hyophorbe verschaffeltii. And Archontophoenixes. 

Hyophorbe verschaffeltii I doubt would have enough heat to survive but the winters but Beccariophoenix alfredii would be worth trying there and there are already a few archontophoenixs planted in botanical gardens there.  Ceroxylons would do well there too.  Maybe they could plant some rhopalostylis sapida there along the coasts considering there's readably available seeds on Tresco. But the least they could do is start planting more washingtonias and CIDPS that park of the UK heavily relies on tourism and more palms would boost that. Norfolk island pines would also thrive there.

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Always amazing to see what can thrive at such latitude, nothing that needs heat though, yes, cool-loving palms like Ceroxylon and Rhopalostylis would be amazing to see, maybe even Juania.

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Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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17 hours ago, Xerarch said:

Always amazing to see what can thrive at such latitude, nothing that needs heat though, yes, cool-loving palms like Ceroxylon and Rhopalostylis would be amazing to see, maybe even Juania.

 

Here are some gardens there that have a good variety of palms. If only the councils took notice!

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1 hour ago, Foxpalms said:

@Xerarch This was the largest Juania I saw there.

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Excellent! So there are some, a picky palm indeed for temperature requirements. On a side note, I notice the CIDP’s don’t hold a full crown of living fronds although they look pretty good in general. Might this be because of a very slow growth rate? By the time they get to the 9 and 3 position they’ve already been on there so long they’re giving out I suppose. 

Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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49 minutes ago, Xerarch said:

Excellent! So there are some, a picky palm indeed for temperature requirements. On a side note, I notice the CIDP’s don’t hold a full crown of living fronds although they look pretty good in general. Might this be because of a very slow growth rate? By the time they get to the 9 and 3 position they’ve already been on there so long they’re giving out I suppose. 

The CIDPS planted by the councils there get pruned whilst the ones in peoples gardens don't, unless its in the way of something. The CIDPS with the biggest crowns in the canary island are the ones found a higher elevations where its wetter and cooler. The palms that don't get pruned seem have large crowns but they seem to be thicker than in other countries. The CIDPS in Cornwall though are definitely slower growing than in London.

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My CIDP in the latitude 33 in South Carolina did not make it because of z8A weather, but CIDP are doing great in the latitude 38 in the Azores.

Average day temperatures: +17°C in the winter and +24°C in the summer. Typical Summer: 68F to 77F (20C to 25C). Typical Winter: 55F to 64F (12C to 18C). Record Low (past 5 years): 45F or +7.7C (once a winter, some winters). Record High (past 5 years): 83F or +28C (some days only). Elevation 140 m (459 ft.) to 160 m (525 ft.), latitude 38.54º. Sunset Zone: unknown

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