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DreaminAboutPalms

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Starting this thread for all the random palms I see around the Dallas area on a daily basis

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Near spring valley and Preston rd, and a few of the volunteers underneath. Probably like 25 more 

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While it was tragic to see the massacre in Feb of 2021, it's mind boggling how some of these palms survived what amounts to a 6b/7a winter in DFW last year.

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13 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Near spring valley and Preston rd, and a few of the volunteers underneath. Probably like 25 more 

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Has to be a 2021 survivor. That's a tough washy! 

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2 hours ago, strongbad635 said:

While it was tragic to see the massacre in Feb of 2021, it's mind boggling how some of these palms survived what amounts to a 6b/7a winter in DFW last year.

Really? WOW! Must've been record setting cold I'd wager.

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2 hours ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

Really? WOW! Must've been record setting cold I'd wager.

It was below freezing for over a week and hit 0 degrees. Lots of palms wiped out but all the volunteers survived, so give it 10 years and it will look like it used to here

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21 hours ago, Las Palmas Norte said:

Really? WOW! Must've been record setting cold I'd wager.

The record low for Dallas/Fort Worth Int'l Airport is -3f set on January 18, 1930.  During the winter storm last year, that weather station recorded a low of -2f on February 16, 2021.  So actually, not even a record-breaker, if you can believe it!

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10 hours ago, strongbad635 said:

The record low for Dallas/Fort Worth Int'l Airport is -3f set on January 18, 1930.  During the winter storm last year, that weather station recorded a low of -2f on February 16, 2021.  So actually, not even a record-breaker, if you can believe it!

I bet with all the extra buildings and heat island effect last year would have tied or broken record 

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Just need to continue the guerrilla seed distribution operation with various Sabal seeds and they soon will be a permanent part of the landscape here. It's already heading that direction now there are so many volunteers everywhere in random places and soon those will start producing seed and then those will be popping up nearby and then even if there's another bad freeze like 2021 there are so many younger specimens in various stages that would easily survive, and it wouldn't have a permanent affect on landscape. Need to start dispersing sabal seeds at parks and along trails 

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23 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Just need to continue the guerrilla seed distribution operation with various Sabal seeds and they soon will be a permanent part of the landscape here. It's already heading that direction now there are so many volunteers everywhere in random places and soon those will start producing seed and then those will be popping up nearby and then even if there's another bad freeze like 2021 there are so many younger specimens in various stages that would easily survive, and it wouldn't have a permanent affect on landscape. Need to start dispersing sabal seeds at parks and along trails 

You can never have 'too many' palms. :)

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USDA Zone 8B - Humid Subtropical (CFA)

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On Harvest Hill drive - SW corner of 635/tollway intersection between Montfort and tollway. Looks to be about 7 years old. 

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From Dallas Arboretum March 2022. 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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This Washingtonia volunteer is an absolute rocket first pic is from April of this year and it is still putting up strap leaves. Second pic was in June. It's even bigger now. Probably loving the irrigation system when the temp hasn't dropped below 75 in 2 months here 

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I was wondering how Tony’s yard in Dallas handled the 2021 freeze.  His large filiferas, Jubaea, Brahea, Chamaerops, and BxJ hybrids.    Anyone here know him?

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30 minutes ago, ryjohn said:

I was wondering how Tony’s yard in Dallas handled the 2021 freeze.  His large filiferas, Jubaea, Brahea, Chamaerops, and BxJ hybrids.    Anyone here know him?

Yes, he has posted on what he lost. Overall he did "ok" for Dallas ( one filifera gone, BxJ gone, Cham gone, Brahea and Jubaea ( protected) lived.

In summary it was a disaster in Texas, a real 1980s event.

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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The only thing that kept us from the same devastation 4 and a half hours East was that the cloud cover stayed for 12 hours longer than forecast.  We were forecast to have the same -2F lows that Shreveport and Dallas got, but ended up with an ultimate low around 15F.  We did have single digits a few years earlier with a low somewhere between 6 and 9F.

Sad to hear about Tony’s Merrill Wilcox JxB.  That palm was a stunner.  I received some Chamedora radicalis ‘trunking form’ seed from Merrill and they are incredible to this day and now far above the gutters.  He was a great and generous man.

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Finally made it to the palm Mecca today in north Dallas. Holy sh*t I felt like I was in Florida or South Texas the sabals look so healthy for the most part and not that many died it seems. And there is a creek right next to property that flooded so that the road isn’t crossable about 15 yards before the back of the propertY, meaning ample groundwater and Sabal friendly conditions. There are needle palms planted super super close together to make sort of a shrub there are like 1000 of them 

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Here's a Time-lapse of a North Dallas sabal that stayed partially green after Feb 2021. Perfect specimen 

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Two years and this washie will outgrow the live oaks in height and be visible from road. Off Preston and spring valley 

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Palm survivors in N Oakcliff, Dallas: sabal mexicana, brahea armata, brahea decumbens, brahea moorei, Chamaerops cerifera, serenoa repens silver, brazoria sabals, sabal lousiana, sabal birmingham, nannhorops ritchiana, sabal riverside, sabal, jubaea chilensis, sabal uresana, trachycarpus fortunei & takil, needle palms, Chamaerops volcano. 

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Unfortunately this CIDP died in the freeze, but given how rare they are, here is a picture from shortly before. It was about 15 years old. Proof that with the right microclimate they can survive here 

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17 minutes ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Unfortunately this CIDP died in the freeze, but given how rare they are, here is a picture from shortly before. It was about 15 years old. Proof that with the right microclimate they can survive here 

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There was a large one on the E side of downtown that survived the freeze in front of a vacant building.  Unfortunately, someone dug it up last spring.  Another, at a Taco Cabana in N Oakcliff next to I-30 survived and then it was cut down last summer.  

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46 minutes ago, Matt N- Dallas said:

There was a large one on the E side of downtown that survived the freeze in front of a vacant building.  Unfortunately, someone dug it up last spring.  Another, at a Taco Cabana in N Oakcliff next to I-30 survived and then it was cut down last summer.  

Here’s another one from Arlington. Not sure if survived or not. Crown still hadn’t collapsed 3 weeks later 

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