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[NWpalms@206]

9 minutes ago, Jesse PNW said:

@NWpalms@206 yours is from Patrick right?  My Bujutiagrus (labelled BJxQueen) from Patrick is much smaller (~14"), seems less queen dominant, and is slower.  It's also attempting to go pinnate and probably will within the next frond or two.  Trunk is much fatter.  It looks more proportionally correct to what you would expect.  

I have one from Patrick that’s the (B/J)xQ, but the one I’m speaking of is actually also from Scott (Rich’s) the J/Bf3x Q that is thick, straight but cupped leaves going pinnate at 20” or so. I’m finding the opposite of mine, the Patrick is softer flat flexible leafed and will get bigger straps before pinnate. The rich super mule is very similar to my j/b and b/j, the Patrick almost resembles my Santa Catarina leaf texture. Likely hybrid variation at its finest. Patrick’s first pic and on the right. Rich super second pic and on the left. 

[NWpalms@206]

11 minutes ago, Jesse PNW said:

Sorry this is a crappy picture but hard to capture.  You can zoom in to see the tape.  For reference, here's a Syagrus romanzoffiana I got in Orlando, with a very strappy leaf that is over 5' tall (from grade).  The next frond after that finally went pinnate.  

It seems like the queen is the cause of the bigger strap leafs. My J/Bf3xQ doesn’t show a whole lot of queen, and I mean it’s totally possibly it’s a unsuccessful  hybrid and it’s just a J/b f3, which I’d be perfectly happy with honestly. It just is so similar to my J/B and B/J in structure. These are Only observations of course. No judgment I love all palms equally . 

[Scott W]

2 minutes ago, NWpalms@206 said:

It seems like the queen is the cause of the bigger strap leafs. My J/Bf3xQ doesn’t show a whole lot of queen, and I mean it’s totally possibly it’s a unsuccessful  hybrid and it’s just a J/b f3, which I’d be perfectly happy with honestly. It just is so similar to my J/B and B/J in structure. These are Only observations of course. No judgment I love all palms equally . 

Rich is pretty meticulous with his methodology, and I have no problem with stating that's it's not a selfing.  Hybrid variation as mentioned is certainly a possibility, and I have a runt that is about half the size of the one I sent you that is from the same batch. 

Hoping to pay him a visit this weekend and get an update on what he's got going on and possible availability of other hybrids.

[NWpalms@206]

6 minutes ago, Scott W said:

Rich is pretty meticulous with his methodology, and I have no problem with stating that's it's not a selfing.  Hybrid variation as mentioned is certainly a possibility, and I have a runt that is about half the size of the one I sent you that is from the same batch. 

Hoping to pay him a visit this weekend and get an update on what he's got going on and possible availability of other hybrids.

I’m sure it’s just variation, and in no way doubt Rich’s ability that’s for sure! In his pics of multiple hybrids you can see each has its own personality. They’re in no way clones or copies of each other. Like siblings same parents but can be vastly different. Definitely interested in what he has going on. I would actually love a confirmed straight JBf3.