Jeffplam Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 My date plam had lots dry leaves. Outside looks ok, inside. Several pc leaves had lots dry brown color. Is it decease problem? thanks a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gottagrowemall Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 Almost always a brown leaf like that means lack of water. It got a heavy pruning recently so it can’t draw water from old fronds because they got cut off. The grass growing directly up to the base is like having a big carpet over the roots. So when it rains that grass is holding water back. My guess is it’s thirsty as heck. Needs the grass pulled away and a bed made around it with mulch, rock, sand, anything that will let water flow easier to the roots. quick solution, let the garden hose run around it for 20 mins every 2-3 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffplam Posted October 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) Great. Will do. Thanks a lot, Edited October 14, 2021 by Jeffplam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMann Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 Hard to see in the photos, but if the leaves are yellow then it may be a sign of magnesium deficiency. You can buy bags of Magnesium at places like Home Depot. magnesium deficiency on Canary Island date palm (Phoenix canariensis ) - 5475262 (forestryimages.org) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlyn Posted October 14, 2021 Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 I can't tell from the photos, but it looks like the older leaves may be fine and the "spear" leaf is dead? If so that means a bud rot or other bud damage or disease. If it's just a few leaf tips then usually that's not a big deal. It's been dry recently here in Central Floriduh, and a lot of my palms have some brown tips. Just take a quick look at the center "spear" growing to make sure that it's not brown and crispy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffplam Posted October 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 Central leaves looks. Ok, middle leaves lots dry brown color. Outside leaves all ok. Very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffplam Posted October 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2021 May I cut all dry leaves to avoid disease spread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlyn Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 It's fairly common to have some damage or leaf fungal infection when a palm is planted. Most of the time they tie up the fronds with rope, which squishes the center leaves and breaks a bunch of them. If they leave them tied up too long (more than 2-3 weeks) then you can get some fungal spot infections in the inner fronds, since air can't circulate there. If it is just a few dead leaflets and a few dots of fungus, then there is probably nothing to worry about. If the spear leaf is green it is probably fine. I'd mark a horizontal line across the spear leaf and adjacent fronds with a sharpie. That way you can check to see if it's growing. As long as the palm is steadily (if slowly) growing a new spear leaf, then the damage in the photos is mostly cosmetic. I'd keep an eye out for it to start spreading, in which case a systemic fungicide would be a good idea. Otherwise just give it water and fertilizer and it'll grow out of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffplam Posted October 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 thanks a lot for suggestions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffplam Posted October 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 i cut small pc for your professional guys take a close look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK_Palms Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 It looks a bit like Fusarium wilt or something alike. If it was trimmed a few weeks or months ago, it may have been infected by some kind of wilt or disease from contaminated pruning tools. You'll know as it will progress quite rapidly. Where are you located exactly? Dry-summer Oceanic climate (9a) Average annual precipitation - 18.7 inches : Average annual sunshine hours - 1725 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffplam Posted October 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 I am in California riverside USA area. is there anyway to save the plam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Chance Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Fusarium rot is very common in Southern California in CIDP and usually is noticeable on the lower leaves as they die off prematurely. I borrowed an image from Google to show what how the leaves die when it happens. Most often it happens from over trimming and not cleaning the tools. I see it so often around here that tree trimmers over trim and then boom the palm goes into decline. I see it at the park near my house. They have CIDP that are dieing off because of this and reporting to the city does nothing. Hopefully that's not the problem but if it is then it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Chance Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 Here's the picture of a leaf. Notice they typically die on one side first. Again not my picture but definitely shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffplam Posted October 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 Any way to save? My leaf looks little different , it is pure dry and color more white as pic display above. thanks a lot for your info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Los Altos Posted October 17, 2021 Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 It’s definitely not fusarium wilt and your palm is likely getting more than enough water being on a lawn. These palms routinely go 6-8 months with no rain or irrigation here in parts of California and survive. I think Merlyn is correct in his assumption. Your Phoenix palm will improve with time. Jim in Los Altos, CA SF Bay Area 37.34N- 122.13W- 190' above sea level zone 10a/9b sunset zone 16 300+ palms, 90+ species in the ground Las Palmas Design Facebook Page Las Palmas Design & Associates Elegant Homes and Gardens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffplam Posted October 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2021 thanks a lot for the great suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerp33 Posted November 14, 2021 Report Share Posted November 14, 2021 Take a look at lethal yellowing. It's spread by phloem feeding insects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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