Trachycarpus Bulgaria

[GregVirginia7]

Are there distinguishing characteristics for this Trachy? I’ve read they have thicker trunks and bright yellow tips on their more rigid leaf segments?

[Allen]

I don't know of any myself.  I have a small 4' potted one.  I'd question it's hardiness compared to fortunei as I believe most of these cold hardiness claims of different fortunei varieties are mostly nonsense.  Lots of growers try to get seed from stiffer frond examples of Trachycarpus as a rule.  

Edited September 11, 2021 by Allen

[Steve in Florida]

A frustrating problem with small, potted Trachycarpus fortunei is spear pull in the spring.  Growers in North Florida have reported problems after 29F with frost.  I have never experienced that problem with Trachycarpus 'Bulgaria'.  I get my seeds from the real deal in Bulgaria.

[Allen]

3 hours ago, Steve in Florida said:

A frustrating problem with small, potted Trachycarpus fortunei is spear pull in the spring.  Growers in North Florida have reported problems after 29F with frost.  I have never experienced that problem with Trachycarpus 'Bulgaria'.  I get my seeds from the real deal in Bulgaria.

I know you have the real deal Steve!  I wish the larger palms could be tested some way to determine their hardiness.  I think University of FL did that with some fortunei before by sticking them in a freezer and testing tissue damage.  Hopefully Bulgaria will be noticeably hardier than the other palms and my area should be a good test as Trachy will die here in a bad winter unprotected.  When doing a google search I found some outlandish claims (Hardy to zone 4 LOL) but this page seems to try to put together the differences.   

https://www.polarpalm.net/en/bul4.html

The question is - if a regular fortunei is hardy to say 5-10F, then what is a Bulgaria hardy to in the same conditions? Of course a dry Trachy might go to 0F or so.

Edited September 12, 2021 by Allen

[DallasPalms]

What about heat tolerance? And would it affect cold tolerance in the same tree? Curious the variations could be complex. 

Has anyone grown bulgaria types in hotter places? I bought over 1,000 seeds of one type because I liked the stiff fronds that appear Bulgaria-like.... but only 13 seedlings.

Maybe it's not a Bulgarian trait but I love it when the bottom leaves turn a bright yellow. I see it usually in similar looking trachys...  with the firm fronds. I've only seen one like it locally though

[rembi]

Трахикарпус Фортуней 2018 след първата му зима когато се обезлисти на100%

 

 

 

[rembi]

 Трахикарпус България 2018

[rembi]

Трахикарпус Фортуней 2020 с поражения от студовете всяка пролет.

 

 

[rembi]

Трахикарпус България 2020 без никакви поражения от студовете.

 

[Jimhardy]

That clears it up nicely.