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Butiagrus VS Chamaedorea radicalis


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Winter -8 °, summer + 30 ° C
 

Winter sun -5 hours, summer sun +8 hours (by its location)

To plant in soil

 

Inland Spain, dry area far from the sea.

Which one do you recommend and why?

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Peachs said:

Winter -8 °, summer + 30 ° C
 

Winter sun -5 hours, summer sun +8 hours (by its location)

To plant in soil

 

Inland Spain, dry area far from the sea.

Which one do you recommend and why?

For me it depends on how big a palm would work better for your spot.  Both palms can handle the temperature extremes you've listed, both can handle drought and both can deal with your sun exposure.  However the mule will do better with more winter sun and C. radicalis will look better with less summer sun.   Butyagrus will ultimately get huge (tall and wide) while the radicalis will stay pretty thin and not nearly as tall.  If -8 C is a yearly winter low I think the radicalis would handle it better than the mule.  Both seem to be not flinch at 40 C in summer.

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Jon Sunder

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4 hours ago, Fusca said:

For me it depends on how big a palm would work better for your spot.  Both palms can handle the temperature extremes you've listed, both can handle drought and both can deal with your sun exposure.  However the mule will do better with more winter sun and C. radicalis will look better with less summer sun.   Butyagrus will ultimately get huge (tall and wide) while the radicalis will stay pretty thin and not nearly as tall.  If -8 C is a yearly winter low I think the radicalis would handle it better than the mule.  Both seem to be not flinch at 40 C in summer.

Thanks.

I have the arborescent variety, both palms are now 80cm tall, but I don't know which one to hit the ground soon ...

 

Posted

You could also ask Trachycarpus fortunei or Washingtonia Filifera. 

As Fusca said, these palms are so different in their appearance. Butiagrus grow fast and get very big, Chamaedorea Radicalis aborescens are slow growers with very thin trunks and a small crown. They are usually planted in groups close to the house or in any other wind-protected spot.

If I were offered either a Butiagrus or a Chamaedorea Radicalis of the same size I wouldn't have to think twice and would go with the Mule.

you could also plant both of them close to each other. The Chamaedorea would grow under the canopy of the Mule.

Posted
34 minutes ago, aegean said:

You could also ask Trachycarpus fortunei or Washingtonia Filifera. 

As Fusca said, these palms are so different in their appearance. Butiagrus grow fast and get very big, Chamaedorea Radicalis aborescens are slow growers with very thin trunks and a small crown. They are usually planted in groups close to the house or in any other wind-protected spot.

If I were offered either a Butiagrus or a Chamaedorea Radicalis of the same size I wouldn't have to think twice and would go with the Mule.

you could also plant both of them close to each other. The Chamaedorea would grow under the canopy of the Mule.

Does radicalis grow slower?  I already have Trachy, Filifera and Brahea Armata.
 

I have a Butiagrus but small ... about 40cm. Here in Spain about 180cm cost $ 300, very expensive!

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Posted
16 hours ago, Peachs said:

Does radicalis grow slower?  I already have Trachy, Filifera and Brahea Armata.
 

I have a Butiagrus but small ... about 40cm. Here in Spain about 180cm cost $ 300, very expensive!

At least for me they grow slowly, but I've read from others that they can also be decent growers.  I am growing a few C. radicalis aborescens from seeds. The biggest is about 60cm tall now after five years.

Yes, Butiagrus are extremely expensive here in Europe, if you can get them at all. That's why I am looking for a fresh male flower spathe from a Queen palm. My Butias are pushing many huge flower spathes right now. 

My thought was that you can get a Butiagrus and a C. radicalis of the same size for the same price. That's why I wrote, I wouldn't have to think twice which one to choose.

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On 6/2/2021 at 9:21 AM, Peachs said:

Does radicalis grow slower?  I already have Trachy, Filifera and Brahea Armata.
I have a Butiagrus but small ... about 40cm. Here in Spain about 180cm cost $ 300, very expensive!
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In Texas I had purchased a strap-leafed seedling for $15 in March, 2017.   After one year in the ground it was a bit smaller than the size of the largest one shown above.  Since C. radicalis stay smaller/thinner they appear to grow slower but I had one go from seed to 2' (61 cm) tall and flowering in 2 years!   Butyagrus do add many more leaves per year compared with C. radicalis.

 

Jon Sunder

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