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Where is the best area to plant a Needle Palm in the Upper/ Mid South?


maskedmole

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In my location, In east Tennessee, where would be the best spot to plant a needle palm? In zone 6b/7a. It rarely drops below zero in a winter within the last 10 or so years.

We have moderately hot summers. Cold but not frigid winters. Precipitation is 56 inches per year. 13 inches of snow. 

I know it needs some amount of sun but my yard is limited to mostly shade but there are some small spots with more sun but they are a bit exposed out in the open. I don't know if it would get enough heat in the shady spots but I also don't want it to be out in the open. 
 
 
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Lowest lows per year 2007-2019: 7F,  5F0F7F3.9F14F14F, -8.9F, 0.1F, 7.2F, 1.2F, -0.8F, 10.2F..... Averaged: 4.6F

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Plant in as sunny spot as possible in a spot the gets the 'hottest'  

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9 hours ago, Allen said:

Plant in as sunny spot as possible in a spot the gets the 'hottest'  

Thank you I will try that. 

Lowest lows per year 2007-2019: 7F,  5F0F7F3.9F14F14F, -8.9F, 0.1F, 7.2F, 1.2F, -0.8F, 10.2F..... Averaged: 4.6F

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I have found them quite vulnerable when young/establishing moreso than S. Minors, so I'd still protect them from wind and extreme cold. 
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I just moved to east Tennessee 6 months ago, I have a needle palm and should do very well here. I also have Sabal minor, Sabal palmetto "Birmingham", Sabal palmetto, Sabal louisiana and Trachycarpus fortunei.

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17 hours ago, maskedmole said:

13 inches of snow.

Welcome to Palmtalk!  You must be around Elizabethton with that amount of annual snow.  Knoxville, where I'm from, only gets around 5" annually.

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10 hours ago, Fusca said:

Welcome to Palmtalk!  You must be around Elizabethton with that amount of annual snow.  Knoxville, where I'm from, only gets around 5" annually.

Thanks I'm glad I found this palm lover forum. I'm actually on the Cumberland Plateau. Crossville. Our 1800' elevation really cools us down. We are about the same latitude as Knoxville and Nashville, but colder because the elevation and we aren't a heat island. I have found us to be probably the coldest spot in our area of TN. 

I have noticed about every area to the east, west, south and even places north of us to be 5 to 10 degrees warmer. There doesn't really seem to be a super accurate consensus on our snowfall. Some sources quote 10 inches. Others say 13 inches. But it's around that. Snow doesn't really seem to stick long though. Chattanooga an hour or so south is a full zone warmer at 7b (8a?). Ya'll in Knoxville are only an hour or so east and much warmer. I would say Knoxville is at least zone 7b maybe 8a. 7a doesn't seem accurate.

Pikeville only 30 minutes south is solid 7a and records much less snowfall. Cookeville is even warmer and it's northwest of us. It's a bit of a curse when trying to zone push. 

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Lowest lows per year 2007-2019: 7F,  5F0F7F3.9F14F14F, -8.9F, 0.1F, 7.2F, 1.2F, -0.8F, 10.2F..... Averaged: 4.6F

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13 hours ago, Swolte said:

I have found them quite vulnerable when young/establishing moreso than S. Minors, so I'd still protect them from wind and extreme cold. 
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Thanks. I will probably build a small fence or something to block the wind

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Lowest lows per year 2007-2019: 7F,  5F0F7F3.9F14F14F, -8.9F, 0.1F, 7.2F, 1.2F, -0.8F, 10.2F..... Averaged: 4.6F

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