Patio Squad

[JohnAndSancho]

The lattice pattern on my d. Lutescens is rad. 

 

A. Tuckeri is sunburned. 

 

And my Butia x Lyto is opening a new spear and splitting bird poop in half. 

 

Not pictured, C. Plumosa being the 3rd tallest palm (behind the Queen and C. Benezeii and being currently taller than Dirty Sanchez), my BOP farting new leaves everywhere, my B. Alfreidii all growing stupid fast, and my patio C. Cataractarum growing full bushy while his indoor cousin is just getting insanely tall. Also Dirty Sanchez is cool. C. Plumosa was actually lifting one of his fronds up. 

 

I'm gonna rearrange tomorrow when I water everyone. C. Plumosa may make it's way inside. 

[teddytn]

@JohnAndSancho here’s some shots of the patio squad. 

[piping plovers]

2 minutes ago, teddytn said:

here’s some shots of the patio squad

Nice! Quite a diverse range there, from opuntia(?) to elephants ears to Norfolk Island pine and all the palms.

[teddytn]

6 hours ago, piping plovers said:

Nice! Quite a diverse range there, from opuntia(?) to elephants ears to Norfolk Island pine and all the palms.

I can’t help it, I love so many different kinds of plants lol. 

[JohnAndSancho]

@teddytn I do have a GBOP buried among my palms for diversity and there are 3 aloes in my office 

 

Looks good fam. I wish I had more space. So does my Etsy shopping cart. 

[Zeni]

@teddytn

How often do you water that Phoenix Roebelenii posted above? I got a similar sized one and wondering what the proper watering schedule is like. Yours look fantastic and very healthy, it seems like mine got issues with brown tipping despite that I only water it once a week. I got it placed on a south facing patio, however, my region's temperature in the summer are mild compared to yours (could be a major difference).

Thank you in advance. 

[teddytn]

5 hours ago, Zeni said:

@teddytn

How often do you water that Phoenix Roebelenii posted above? I got a similar sized one and wondering what the proper watering schedule is like. Yours look fantastic and very healthy, it seems like mine got issues with brown tipping despite that I only water it once a week. I got it placed on a south facing patio, however, my region's temperature in the summer are mild compared to yours (could be a major difference).

Thank you in advance. 

I am planning on repotting it, the pot stays super light even right after watering. If I remember correctly the mix it’s in is mostly composted humus, basically small wood chips. I water it every other day basically. It doesn’t hold water well because of the mix it’s in, so lately I’ve been putting the pot in a shallow tray when I water it, and letting it sit in the water for a while. I would say if you've got some brown tips you could give it some more water for sure. If it’s outside in the sun I would up the water and see how it goes after a few weeks. Guessing yours retains more water than mine does. I would check on the 3rd day after watering and stick your finger in the soil and see if it’s closer to wet or dry, closer to dry that might be your new watering schedule every 3rd day. 

[teddytn]

9 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

@teddytn I do have a GBOP buried among my palms for diversity and there are 3 aloes in my office 

 

Looks good fam. I wish I had more space. So does my Etsy shopping cart. 

I’ve been trying to give away plants when people come over. Everything in those pics has to get stuffed in the plant room for the winter….I’ve got to get a set of those silver wire shelves to put all the seedling trays on, I think that will help with space. Seems cool having so many, don’t plan on going on vacation lol, the green babies need me lol. Seriously like a second job at this point. 

[piping plovers]

1 hour ago, teddytn said:

Seems cool having so many, don’t plan on going on vacation lol, the green babies need me lol. Seriously like a second job at this point. 

I hear you there.  My palms and orchids outdoors let me get away for no more than a week vacation. All changed when I added anthuriums to the collection; now my leash is only 4 days away.

[piping plovers]

10 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

I do have a GBOP buried among my palms for diversity

Squirrels keep eating the unfurling leaves on my GBOP like it’s rhubarb.  I wish some raptors would find my yard and build a nest here.  I do hear owls occasionally at night but they are on the wrong shift I think for the daytime squirrels .

[JohnAndSancho]

6 hours ago, teddytn said:

I’ve been trying to give away plants when people come over. Everything in those pics has to get stuffed in the plant room for the winter….I’ve got to get a set of those silver wire shelves to put all the seedling trays on, I think that will help with space. Seems cool having so many, don’t plan on going on vacation lol, the green babies need me lol. Seriously like a second job at this point. 

I'm torn between "there's empty spaces on these shelves," and "I'm gonna need that space when it gets cold."

[JohnAndSancho]

Either we need rain or I need a less stinky fertilizer option. Between the organic (chicken poop) and stink water (assorted fish puree), my patio smells like a corpse in this heat. 

 

Edit: also could have said it smells like Sancho's breath. Potato/potato. 

 

[JohnAndSancho]

C. Benezeii

 

This new leaf should be opened by like October at the rate this thing grows. 

[JohnAndSancho]

I guess I should do a video update when it's not dark. My B. Alfreidii seedlings are throwing HUGE new strap leafs. One of my A. Tuckerii def wants to be noticed. My Butia x Lytocaryum Weddelanium is determined to be as tall as the railings on my balcony before it goes inside for winter. My Dypsis Lutescens have watched me repot so many palms and they feel their under potted root bound asses deserve the same. C. Plumosa aka Baby Queens are so thirsty. Dirty Sanchez finally looks healthy and looks like he did a year and a half ago. My handful of surviving C. Radicalis seeds probably want more soil. Spindly Bob's new leaf can go ahead and open whenever, I think I marked it in February. Queen Elizabeth looks ratty as hell but she's 8 ft tall so she can do whatever. Groot Jr should've got a bigger pot with his crooked growing self but keeps spitting new fronds and it's not like he isn't used to being rootbound 

[JohnAndSancho]

I had a new resident in my apartments flag me down to ask me if I've had any issues from management or neighbors about my plants because his wife is a passionate gardener. I was honest, I told him I have no issues but I'm also upstairs and I have a dog. 

 

I mean, I love Sancho but he's totally not a guard dog. Also totally probably going to have issues with apt management since I just clipped probably 20 dead and  sunburned fronds and "mulched* the dead grass downstairs. 

 

Anyway so many seedlings I just repotted are already rootbound. Does anyone care enough for me to make another YouTube video or do I just let them roll for a year?

[ZPalms]

2 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

I had a new resident in my apartments flag me down to ask me if I've had any issues from management or neighbors about my plants because his wife is a passionate gardener. I was honest, I told him I have no issues but I'm also upstairs and I have a dog. 

 

I mean, I love Sancho but he's totally not a guard dog. Also totally probably going to have issues with apt management since I just clipped probably 20 dead and  sunburned fronds and "mulched* the dead grass downstairs. 

 

Anyway so many seedlings I just repotted are already rootbound. Does anyone care enough for me to make another YouTube video or do I just let them roll for a year?

Up to you if you wanna make a video, seems easier than showing and explaining in a post  I always got too many seeds and not many places to sprout them, I'm so lazy when it comes to germinating seeds

[JohnAndSancho]

Spindly Bob and C. Plumosa clump both opening new fronds. Off the top of my head I wanna say 3 months for Bob's to open. Tbh he was an indoor plant when it started. I love his colors - the orange on the fronds, the pink and deep red on the leaf bases, the dark green and brown on the "not quite a trunk" trunk. 

[JohnAndSancho]

Anyway. 

 

Just hit all of the patio palms with slow release Carl Pool and split 4 gallons of water between them all. So we'll see what happens in the next couple weeks. My money is on Dirty Sanchez and C. Plumosa going bananas, my A. Tuckerii growing at their continuously stupid rate, and Queen Elizabeth hitting a 9 foot height in the next 2 weeks. Everyone is still getting watered every other day so this would track. 

[JohnAndSancho]

On 5/1/2022 at 6:01 PM, JohnAndSancho said:

Queen Elizabeth is now in a 7g pot. Root porn! And ironically no more exposed roots at the top. 

@ZPalms repotting isn't fun. It took me several hours and a few Modelos to fish out this mess. I did only break a few roots though. 

[ZPalms]

A repotting that should only take 10 mins for me turns into 2 hours because I’m dumb mixing soils and stuff 

[JohnAndSancho]

48 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

A repotting that should only take 10 mins for me turns into 2 hours because I’m dumb mixing soils and stuff 

Oh yeah. Mine is premixed in the orange bucket. 

[JohnAndSancho]

On 6/14/2022 at 6:56 PM, teddytn said:

If he bit the dust you might have to get in the cactus game….

Welp he recovered but I'm shopping cactii cuttings on Etsy 

I guess I need to do some more research since SE TX is now a desert climate lol 

 

[JohnAndSancho]

I didn't talk over this since I was low-key hoping YouTube would give me the music option to add Guns N Roses "Welcome To The Jungle" to this.

 

It did not. Here's some explosive triple digit growth footage. 

[JohnAndSancho]

Ok. Some night shots while I water and I hope they lost in the order I'm typing. Technology  posting from my phone.

C. Plumosa - thirsty thirsty girl. Looks like it's throwing a palmate leaf on a fully pinnate palm, but whatever. She's gorgeous

 

B. Alfreidii seedling throwing it's 4th strap leaf. I've got a few of these but the others are all on 3rd leaf. 

One of my A. Tuckerii, shot of the "not yet trunk" trunk of the fattest one. Yeah, it's not anywhere near centered in the pot, but it was repotted in spring and is already rootbound and is by far my thickest and the one I'm most hopeful for. 

 

C. Benezeii - I don't think it likes the heat. This leaf opened up a few months ago and quite frankly I think it looks like crap. Sad, cuz it's one of my favorite palms and this is an awful stupid and corny pun but these trees don't grow on trees. This one wasn't cheap either. 

 

Another tuckerii, this one was the runt of my purchase. I purposely put it in a small pot hoping it'll root out and blow up on me. For science. 

 

My outdoor C. Cataractarum. I mean yeah it's healthy and looks dark green and whatever but I also pulled a spear from a sucker. My indoor cat is freaking huge and, if you've followed my posts, this one has almost ended up as dumpster food and came back from the dead 3 times now. I'm blown away that a plant in a relatively cold and dark apartment is doing so much better than a well shaded outdoor plant. But whatevs. 

 

Last but not least, Dirty Sanchez looking pretty much the same he did last spring. In a perfect world I'd have space to put it in full sun, but I do live in an apartment with a shared staircase so he's still in the corner. He does get lots of morning and evening sun, but he's growing a lot slower than before. But he's growing in his corner, and not decomposing in a landfill so I'll take it. I know he's rootbound and he's already in a massive (for a studio apartment with at best 60sq ft of patio) pot. Love him and he's awesome but this might not have been an ideal purchase. 

[JohnAndSancho]

I guess this one is ready for the dumpster. 3 stems were turning black, one spear pulled so I cut them off and all 3 fizzed with peroxide. 

[ZPalms]

On 8/14/2022 at 8:46 PM, JohnAndSancho said:

I guess this one is ready for the dumpster. 3 stems were turning black, one spear pulled so I cut them off and all 3 fizzed with peroxide. 

Noooo give it a chance unless it actually dies 

[JohnAndSancho]

1 hour ago, ZPalms said:

Noooo give it a chance unless it actually dies 

This one has almost died a dozen times. I've had it almost as long as my giant cat palm, and it's just never done well. 

[ZPalms]

9 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

This one has almost died a dozen times. I've had it almost as long as my giant cat palm, and it's just never done well. 

If it needs a new home, I got open arms 

Edited August 16, 2022 by ZPalms

[JohnAndSancho]

1 hour ago, ZPalms said:

If it needs a new home, I got open arms 

You can buy a healthy one for what it'd cost to ship this hospice patient. 

[ZPalms]

3 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

You can buy a healthy one for what it'd cost to ship this hospice patient. 

I love palm rehabbing, it’s so satisfying 

[JohnAndSancho]

Here's a few pics of new spears pushing. 

1) Queen Elizabeth loves the heat. She's actually pushing 2 while another very tall one is opening. 

 

2) A. Tuckerii. Wild that my full sun one is getting fat while the shaded ones are getting tall. 

 

3) Another tuckerii - I guess this one's an experiment since it's in such a tiny pot. 

 

4) Majesty. I effed up when I repotted it, should have bought a bigger pot. Still pushing new spears and growing and getting a little tall and a lot fat. 

 

5) Everyone's favorite Washy, Dirty Sanchez. Recovering well, def not as busy as he used to be - but he's alive and doing well. 

 

6) Spindly Bob. Pretty sure this wasn't there last night. 

 

I spent a couple dollars on chelated iron, a humic acid/seaweed blend, more fish juice, and... I dunno, something else. I'll pick a palm or 2 to experiment on with an enhanced Stink Water™ 2.0 blend and we'll see what happens. 

[JohnAndSancho]

Rearranged some stuff since there's a storm coming and putting my thirstier palms closer to the edge of the patio, plus Spindly Bob falls over in the slightest gust... Anyway 

B. Alfreidii on it's 4th leaf

Little Cat is a goner. I was gonna experiment with Stink Water 2.0 on him, but yeah. He's dumpster food. Sorry @ZPalms

 

Baby Queens and Queens side by side. Sorry for the crap pic with the banister in the way, but you get the point. The short fat one in the middle is a Shafer Butia x Lytocaryum Weddelanium 

[piping plovers]

34 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

Rearranged some stuff since there's a storm coming and putting my thirstier palms closer to the edge of the patio, plus Spindly Bob falls over in the slightest gust... Anyway 

Yes, I’m doing the same tonight. Rain coming so put the verschaffeltia twins and the Hydrastele twins out on the deck.  Seedlings.  Fog is rolling in from ocean now so they can have their spa time .  I need bigger pots for the verschaffeltias because they blow over constantly.

is that tall plant in your last pic a queen palm?  Looks happy, must be over 7 ft.

 

[JohnAndSancho]

3 minutes ago, piping plovers said:

Yes, I’m doing the same tonight. Rain coming so put the verschaffeltia twins and the Hydrastele twins out on the deck.  Seedlings.  Fog is rolling in from ocean now so they can have their spa time .  I need bigger pots for the verschaffeltias because they blow over constantly.

is that tall plant in your last pic a queen palm?  Looks happy, must be over 7 ft.

 

Yeah, that's my queen. Here's a pic of her with the gutters on my apartment for reference. She's in a 7g 14" tall pot and easily 7ft. I dunno what I'm gonna do with her when it gets cold 

hoping for a mild winter since it looks like a lot of work to put her in my office. Chamaedorea Plumosa aka Baby Queen on the left, which is growing just as fast as the queen. 

[ZPalms]

2 hours ago, JohnAndSancho said:

Rearranged some stuff since there's a storm coming and putting my thirstier palms closer to the edge of the patio, plus Spindly Bob falls over in the slightest gust... Anyway 

B. Alfreidii on it's 4th leaf

Little Cat is a goner. I was gonna experiment with Stink Water 2.0 on him, but yeah. He's dumpster food. Sorry @ZPalms

 

Baby Queens and Queens side by side. Sorry for the crap pic with the banister in the way, but you get the point. The short fat one in the middle is a Shafer Butia x Lytocaryum Weddelanium 

Noooooo what a shame 😭

[JohnAndSancho]

11 hours ago, ZPalms said:

Noooooo what a shame 😭

All the stems are turning black 

[ZPalms]

5 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

All the stems are turning black 

maybe they wanted a smaller pot?

[JohnAndSancho]

56 minutes ago, ZPalms said:

maybe they wanted a smaller pot?

It just never did well. I've been threatening to yeet it into the dumpster for like a year now. 

[ZPalms]

33 minutes ago, JohnAndSancho said:

It just never did well. I've been threatening to yeet it into the dumpster for like a year now. 

I believe it it, I trust it could bounce back just gotta figure out what it's attitude is 😭

[JohnAndSancho]

8 hours ago, ZPalms said:

I believe it it, I trust it could bounce back just gotta figure out what it's attitude is 😭

I mean yeahhhhh but you've seen my threads and you know how cluttered things are. I get the sentiment, I'm emotionally attached to all of my green homeys but I just can't keep throwing effort at something that.... After 2 years it's a fraction of the size it was when I got it, and I just don't think it wants to live. Plus it's in my favorite brand of pot and I can't find these anymore. I see it as a new home for one of my many under potted plants 😕