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2021 Freeze Damage - Texas and the Southern US


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Update from north Austin.  Looks like they will make it.  I did burn them a bit by over fertilizing ;(

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Question please? When we purchased this Windmill Fan Palm a year ago ( July 2020) and had it planted, it was 12 foot tall. Then in Feb. 2021 we had the terrible week of winter and we have ended up with this. If we trunk it, could we trunk it at 6 - 8 ft high so it would be more manageable for us to monitor and care for?  Do you trunk it at an angle or straight across? What more do we have to lose, unfortunately! We are so sad!! Thank you!! 

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On 4/13/2021 at 9:13 PM, Matthew92 said:

Has anyone noticed damage with Elaeocarpus decipiens?

Update: the two largest were cut down by the mall entrance, but are coming back from the roots. The two that were left are leafing out on a few branches, but there are large sections of the trees dead. 

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Gaga Iowa/Arkansas,  I had success with cutting mine - just start cutting the trunk horizontally bit by bit until you find bright green or white tissue (if there's going to be any). I really hate this for you - my guess is that it was not established enough. If you do find this, which unfortunately I doubt after this amount of time, you will need to treat the cut surface first with hydrogen peroxide and then a couple days later copper fungicide. I have one in Rogers, AR (NW Arkansas) and mine completely defoliated and I had to cut the trunk back about 6 inches or so. Mine has 3 fronds now but I've babied it. Let me know if I can be of further assistance!

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Hi Y'all I am new member to Palmtalk but have been familiar with the site of some years, its a pleasure to be here ! In my spare time I will help report on the condition of recovering palms in central Texas and abroad.  :happy:  

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Here is what looks to be 

On 9/19/2021 at 12:12 AM, Arecaceae78743 said:

(Try this if it did not work) 

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CORRECTION   The back one is a CALIFORNIA fan palm 

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Location: Taylor, TX    Date: September 12   The Two on the left are Wash. filifera and the two on the right are Wash. robusta, all have irrigation but have not been pruned.  I would have to say that as far a Mexican Fan Palms go I am 99.999% sure that they are extinct in this region of Texas.     

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My huge sabal by the side of my house is finally putting out a new frond. This is 7 months after the freeze. I have another smaller one that started putting out new fronds last month. 

Both palms have been just trunks with no foliage since the freeze in February.  I am still watching my Washingtonia filiferas. I put hydrogen peroxide in the palms that I could reach. I am 25 miles south of Dallas.

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On 9/20/2021 at 8:36 PM, Arecaceae78743 said:

Here is what looks to be 

CORRECTION   The back one is a CALIFORNIA fan palm 

Hello and welcome to the forum! Nice to see large sabals turning out ok up there.  Also nice that California fan clinging on to life, those things are so tough, and it will regrow quickly if it finishes pulling through.

Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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All but 1 of my Filifera dropped dead after coming back from the freeze. So disappointing to think they lived only to decline. 1 Washingtonia hybrid lived that would burn at 17F, survived 3-4F. 
I live in a very humid and wet part of Texas. They might have survived if I was in arid West Texas. ( El Paso)… maybe even San Antonio or Austin. All my Sabals survived, one 7ish year old Uresana put out a partial leaf in September. So it may die over winter. 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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Hello Palm talk, today I will share with y'all some info on south Texas plants, although the pictures from google maps where taken in April it helps to sheds light on the situation, you must note that even if a palm looks to far gone there is always a possibility of survival for instance I have personally seen some palms come back to life as late as October.   

 

BEFORE (2019 Donna TX) not palms but orange trees are still important 

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AFTER (2021 Donna TX) note the poor royal palms in the far left side

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In Brownsville TX you can see that this queen palm is just fine but I cant say the same for the pygmy date palm 

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More from Brownsville TX, not palms but Norfolk pines, they are still important because even these very tropical ones managed to survive (notice the north facing sides are toasted) 

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Brownsville TX . In the red I believe they are foxtail palms and it looks like they could come back   

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Brownsville TX. Pygmy Dates have taken this freeze very hard I think its because of there small size and slow growing speed, but this one will be ok.  

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Brownsville TX. The Royal Palms don't look good but some are poking back up and remember that this was only in April with no trim   

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In Brownsville TX April 2021 

This just might be a COCONUT PALM THAT SURVIVED ! Why I think this is a coconut and not a queen is because queen palms are much more cold hardy than coconuts it would not make sense that this palm would be knocked back completely PLUS its located on the south side of the home and because the burnt frons are more coconut like than an very feathery queen palm.  let me know what you think it is. 

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South Padre Island TX. By the way if you want to know what a cardboard palm looks like without foliage. here you go 

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South Padre Island TX. a Royal palm out in the open and not trim but it looks like a tiny green is poking through, remember is is only April.

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South Padre Island TX. an Unidentified mass of dead plants, but it looks like there are two re-sprouts. Could there be a coconut in there !?  

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South Padre Island TX. A good example why you should always place your tropical plants behind south facing buildings.

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South Padre Island TX.  Brace yourself here is what one of the coconuts on the island looks like.....OOF

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BUT LETS REMEMBER THAT THIS IS OLNY APRIL AND CONSITER THIS NEXT PICTURE...

This is that same coconut palm from 10 years ago the last time an arctic blast came through. It looks bad and not to come back BUT it did survive. Lets just hope and pray that its alive today and someone is taking care of it.  

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South Padre Island TX. Here is another Coconut. Unfortunately google maps dose not have an updated picture for the inner streets, this is the closest you can get. If you look closely you can see some burnt frons sticking up, perhaps its a little good news because the it means the crown is not rotten. 

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My data from the 2021 Texas Freeze Event attached.  I put it in the same format as the "Cold Hardiness Observation Master Data" spreadsheet created by @kinzyjr for ease of consolidation.  I only left the "Event ID" and "Source" fields blank.  All observations collected from palms that were growing on my property in Bexar County at the time of the freeze event.

 

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Unified Theory of Palm Seed Germination

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(Where: bh = bottom heat, fs = fresh seed, L = love, m = magic, p = patience, and t = time)

DISCLAIMER: Working theory; not yet peer reviewed.

"Fronds come and go; the spear is life!" - Anonymous Palmtalker

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Do you all know what thread has the Wunderground screenshots from this freeze?

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On 4/7/2024 at 1:01 AM, RedRabbit said:

Do you all know what thread has the Wunderground screenshots from this freeze?

This thread had some on pages 12-17:

https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/67323-coldest-temperatures-since-the-arctic-outbreak-of-december-1989/?page=12

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USDA Zone 1990: 9a  2012: 9b  2023: 10a | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (Jan. 1985, Dec.1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a

30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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