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Palmageddon Aftermath Photo Thread


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This is interesting. Decent sized Washingtonia hybrid in pflugerville. Didn’t show any signs of life last year. First picture is from this past winter (you can see the recovered canary fronds in bottom corner of pic). Second pic is August of this year… There were a lot in Austin that didn’t start coming back until last fall but this is incredible. Owners didn’t cut it down because it was too expensive, wonder if others would have come back like this if not cut down 

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Gorgeous foxtail I saw last Sunday in Galveston, it’s been in the ground for about 2 years…. People are really beginning to replant queen/ foxtail palms all over Houston and Galveston as along with pigmy date palms …

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Nice canary survivor in downtown Austin. Robustas were replaced the owner used to have ones 3x the size. Nice to see stuff getting replaced at least 

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Mature Austin Filifera. The trunks on the ones in last pic though.... looks like they have been through Pearl Harbor 

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And just when I thought I’d seen it all… 

MASSIVE Filifera in Carrollton. Perfectly healthy and trunk looks good. This has got to be biggest Washingtonia in Dallas right? This is impressive for Central Texas even 

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5 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

And just when I thought I’d seen it all… 

MASSIVE Filifera in Carrollton. Perfectly healthy and trunk looks good. This has got to be biggest Washingtonia in Dallas right? This is impressive for Central Texas even 

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Nice to see Austin still has decent looking palms :) 

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How cold did those dactyliferas in Austin get? Single digits and teens plus snow for a few days?

I was under the impression about 15F would do them in!

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1 hour ago, 8BPalms said:

How cold did those dactyliferas in Austin get? Single digits and teens plus snow for a few days?

I was under the impression about 15F would do them in!

Medjool Dates which are clones of each other did uniformly die between 15-20F. Some hybrid or other varieties maybe 5-10% survived below 15F. 

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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12 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

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Warmest spot in Austin. Tiny microclimate.  They were still majority green after the freeze. It was above 10F south of Downtown Austin. About the same as San Antonio and north Houston.13F

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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Here's a filifera that just refuses to die

June 2009 - smaller crown than other two

April 2013 - only a few fronds left

October 2013 - defoliated 

October 2014 - recovered!

October 2019 - smaller crown than other still but looks better than it has! 

December 2021 - pushing few few stunted fronds

May 2022 - a few more stunted fronds, but still lives on! 

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8 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

Warmest spot in Austin. Tiny microclimate.  They were still majority green after the freeze. It was above 10F south of Downtown Austin. About the same as San Antonio and north Houston.13F

Must be a small microclimate because within a few mile vicinity lots of sagos and CIDP that got completely fried this year again and look no better than the ones in north suburbs 

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1 hour ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Must be a small microclimate because within a few mile vicinity lots of sagos and CIDP that got completely fried this year again and look no better than the ones in north suburbs 

Ok looking back some had green, which was a rare site the time. But it was warmest spot 10-13F 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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2 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

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On your first picture, that is on the south side of the old 127 year old Palm School. The Filfera tucked up on right side is a 1980s survivor. The one to the right is younger Washingtonia, and probably a hybrid. For some reason Tony from DFW May have mentioned that one at the palm school…? Someone has and maybe grew some.

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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3 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Must be a small microclimate because within a few mile vicinity lots of sagos and CIDP that got completely fried this year again and look no better than the ones in north suburbs 

Unfortunately that happened to a lot of the new foxtails here in Houston- 3 nights in a row of upper 20S damaged and even killed. 70% of the new ones , and in the northern counties the Sylvester date palms had minor burn to them ..

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2 hours ago, Collectorpalms said:

On your first picture, that is on the south side of the old 127 year old Palm School. The Filfera tucked up on right side is a 1980s survivor. The one to the right is younger Washingtonia, and probably a hybrid. For some reason Tony from DFW May have mentioned that one at the palm school…? Someone has and maybe grew some.

Yes that one's been there forever and is nuclear bomb proof as far as I'm concerned. The trunk on that thing looks like a log that's been sitting at bottom of the ocean for a decade or 3... I know  that it's been posted in here at some point but it looked so healthy that had to post again and to advertise as a seed source 

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On 9/18/2022 at 2:25 PM, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Yes that one's been there forever and is nuclear bomb proof as far as I'm concerned. The trunk on that thing looks like a log that's been sitting at bottom of the ocean for a decade or 3... I know  that it's been posted in here at some point but it looked so healthy that had to post again and to advertise as a seed source 

I see it has seeds… your likely to get a bit of a hybrid mix with the one on the right. It’s not a bad thing considering it survived too and clearly has some hybrid vigor. Usually the Pure Filifera are much much slower. 
I am getting old ( mid 40s) so need some palms  that move faster than at a glacier pace. 

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

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Anyone know of any CIDP in Austin are that did NOT defoliate this year or get completely fried? Everyone I've seen looks the same around town pretty much; I lived in North Austin first few months of this year and lowest I saw was 21 and we only had 3 mornings below 25. Somehow the CIDP in southern Half of city look just as bad, and that's surprising to me because some of them are close to surviving tall Washingtonia which one would think would signify a microclimate 

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A sad end for these. This area mid single digits. One lone filiferaish survivor on other side of property.

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18 hours ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Anyone know of any CIDP in Austin are that did NOT defoliate this year or get completely fried? Everyone I've seen looks the same around town pretty much; I lived in North Austin first few months of this year and lowest I saw was 21 and we only had 3 mornings below 25. Somehow the CIDP in southern Half of city look just as bad, and that's surprising to me because some of them are close to surviving tall Washingtonia which one would think would signify a microclimate 

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Canaries for some reason burned at a warmer temperatures than in the past. Typically 17F I was worried the would brown out. This year 21-22 was enough to fry them.

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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