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Palmageddon Aftermath Photo Thread


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Just now, DreaminAboutPalms said:

North Austin. A flawless Filibusta 

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Nice good that it’s producing seeds , did any of the robustas survive? 

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1 hour ago, Cade said:

Nice good that it’s producing seeds , did any of the robustas survive? 

There are like 12 dead robusta trunks next to that one. But a few blocks away a few tall thin hybrids survived  

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Finally stopped past the quality inn in Waco to check out the Filiferas there. Starting to produce seed as well. Clearly loving the dry heat. Half a dozen mature Sabal Mexicanas on property as well and too many volunteers to count. Sabal Mexicanas and washingtonias are popping up everywhere around 

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This water park in Baytown east of Houston replaced all there large date palms and queens . I think these are mejools ? 

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58 minutes ago, DreaminAboutPalms said:

Off the 35, Temple Tx. That’s pretty thin for that far north 

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Have any Washingtonia been replaced in that area ? I used to go through temple when I lived in Abilene TX . 

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I was under the impression that the True Date Palms on Nasa Road in Clear Lake survived. Well forget that. There were at one time dozens of them. Then on the furthest east of Nasa Road one near the Hilton ( Infamous for the Dentist that Ran over in the Park lot over and over, you can  see the dates in July 2002)  they started to die around 2017.  The very old 1980s survivors of The Hilton died, due to Date Palm Lethal Decline to https://www.texasagriculture.gov/RegulatoryPrograms/PlantQuality/PestandDiseaseAlerts/DatePalmLethalDecline/DatePalmLethalDeclineInformation.aspx

It didn't reach the ones on the west end, but the cold took them out.

 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

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1 minute ago, Collectorpalms said:

I was under the impression that the True Date Palms on Nasa Road in Clear Lake survived. Well that notice is bust. There were at one time dozens of them. Then on the furthest east of Nasa Road one near the Hilton ( Infamous for the Dentist that Ran over in the Park lot over and over, you can  see the dates in July 2002)  they started to die around 2017.  The very old 1980s survivors of The Hilton died, due to Date Palm Lethal Declime to https://www.texasagriculture.gov/RegulatoryPrograms/PlantQuality/PestandDiseaseAlerts/DatePalmLethalDecline/DatePalmLethalDeclineInformation.aspx

It didn't reach the ones on the west end, but the cold took them out.

 

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Damn ….. hopefully they replant a continuous line of Bismarcks would be nice something different.

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9 minutes ago, Cade said:

Damn ….. hopefully they replant a continuous line of Bismarcks would be nice something different.

I seriously doubt it but who knows.

I have learned that Sylvestris Dates survived the cold slightly better than True Dates in general. Canaries are the hardiest by far. But with the disease I wouldn't risk planting any dates anywhere near Houston. I hope living 90 miles is far enough away....

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

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I think Sylvestris are the best date for Houston, but unfortunately nearly all trunking Sylvestris that initially recovered from the freeze are now dead.

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26 minutes ago, necturus said:

I think Sylvestris are the best date for Houston, but unfortunately nearly all trunking Sylvestris that initially recovered from the freeze are now dead.

Mercer Arboretum has one. There is another on highway 6 and 290 along rd. Some more around at a hotel. But I don’t know percentage of survivors. 

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

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Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

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Cold spot in Alief (WSW Houston) near SH 6, things look much better inside BW8 or south towards in-town Sugar Land. Didn't expect Sugar Land to fare as well as it did, guess latitude was really the biggest factor in that freeze. 

I see plenty of sylvestris and dactyfilera (smaller palms, not the specimen Medjool types) even in colder areas in west Houston suburbs. There's a parking lot full of dactyfilera-type dates at a South Asian strip mall in Alief next to an apartment complex with dozens of large dead robusta (with only a handful of survivors). 

 

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Jonathan

Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

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1 hour ago, Cade said:

Geez that’s sad 

Nearly all robusta are dead a mile west of that pic, I suspect its the proximity to the Barker and Addicks reservoirs to the north and northwest and the general lower density development. That area has always been a cold sink and runs colder than eastern Katy. 

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Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

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1 minute ago, Xenon said:

Nearly all robusta are dead a mile west of that pic, I suspect its the proximity to the Barker and Addicks reservoirs to the north and northwest and the general lower density development. That area has always been a cold sink and runs colder than eastern Katy. 

Here's a rough graphic 

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Are there any Sylvester’s alive in that area ? 

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8 minutes ago, Cade said:

Are there any Sylvester’s alive in that area ? 

Yes 

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and what look to be seed grown dactyfilera

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this is what I mean by cold sink, it's cooooooooldddddd

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Jonathan

Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

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1 minute ago, Xenon said:

Yes 

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and what look to be seed grown dactyfilera

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this is what I mean by cold sink, it's cooooooooldddddd

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If I owned those I would cry lol 

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More dates in the cold sink, west facing

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and some in FRIGID Brookshire 

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Jonathan

Katy, TX (Zone 9a)

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Waco's Hooters Washingtonia was mentioned or pictured as originally coming back. Notta.

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Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

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On 7/30/2022 at 11:16 PM, necturus said:

I think Sylvestris are the best date for Houston, but unfortunately nearly all trunking Sylvestris that initially recovered from the freeze are now dead.

There are tons of them alive in the Houston area . Most have full size fronds except a few 

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Just got back from a trip to Huntsville on my way I took pictures of some of the palm trees.

I was surprised to see 8-10 very large and healthy Washingtonia robustas in the woodlands downtown area I thought everything had died . Don’t have any pictures unfortunately.

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 Came across a very happy queen Palm survivor in friendswood TX there is another one in a yard but it’s as tall as the house so hard to even see it . 

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2 minutes ago, thyerr01 said:

The huge queen palm is a nice find. It looks in good health. No fruit I assume.

I’ll look again tonight. 

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On 3/5/2021 at 1:18 PM, EastCanadaTropicals said:

Has anyone looked at this washy in Waco, I hope it's not dead:

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Confirmed:  The Waco Hooters Washy is dead! A year and a half later…..  I guess they are leaving it as a memorial.  Pictures as of Aug. 8th 2022.

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