tank Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Its been awhile since I've posted a topic but here are some palm pics from my yard in Gainesville: Parajubaea cocoides x butia Trithrinax brasiliensis Trachycarpus principes Jubaea x Butia 13 2 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Copernicia alba Jubaea x Butia x Syagrus (Tim Hopper hybrid) 14 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8B palms Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 awesome palms, has the braziliensis ever had any freeze damage. I have one planted but it has been engulfed in grape vines and smilax, I need to see if its still alive, it doesn't take long for the wilds to recapture a yard. Have you tried W filifera? here in town, I would like to find a reliable source of the filibusta to gain some humidity along with cold tolerance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Cycas deboaensis next to a Raphis humulis (not a good pic!) Mule, relocated from Tim Hopper's yard about 5 or 6 years ago Brahea armata Brahea dulcis 12 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, 8B palms said: awesome palms, has the braziliensis ever had any freeze damage. I have one planted but it has been engulfed in grape vines and smilax, I need to see if its still alive, it doesn't take long for the wilds to recapture a yard. Have you tried W filifera? here in town, I would like to find a reliable source of the filibusta to gain some humidity along with cold tolerance. There is a long term filbusta in Columbia that I would like to get seeds off of. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Jubaea x syagrus (had the plant for about 4 years or so but only planted it out last year.... probably would be twice this size if I had planted it when I got it) 2 small Brahea claras and some succulents Nannorrhops ritchiana "arabica" (super slow grower) 10 1 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, 8B palms said: awesome palms, has the braziliensis ever had any freeze damage. I have one planted but it has been engulfed in grape vines and smilax, I need to see if its still alive, it doesn't take long for the wilds to recapture a yard. Have you tried W filifera? here in town, I would like to find a reliable source of the filibusta to gain some humidity along with cold tolerance. I have tried W. filifera a couple times but they end up being unhappy and ultimately die. Probably a mix of nutrient deficiency and humid/rainy weather. I probably should try again.... 2 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8B palms Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 I tried good sized pure Jubaea and also B. decumbens, on a raised bed, but no luck. Your B aramata looks awesome, thats one I should try again. Where did you get your B Clara from? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 A few Yucca rostratas that are starting to get some size A Brahea hybrid, probably aculeata and armata (obtained from Merrill Wilcox) Sabal Causiarum (hard to show the scale of this one, its going to be BIG) 10 1 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 8B palms said: I tried good sized pure Jubaea and also B. decumbens, on a raised bed, but no luck. Your B aramata looks awesome, thats one I should try again. Where did you get your B Clara from? B. armata are tough in Florida. I ended up getting this one as a 3 gallon plant in a trade with someone out west. Before that I slowly killed a hundred or so plants grown from seed. This plant seems to really like the calcium from the oyster and scallop shells. The claras came from California. From here: cycads-n-palms I have two decumbens. They struggle..... but are still alive. Edited May 15, 2020 by tank 2 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, 8B palms said: I tried good sized pure Jubaea and also B. decumbens, on a raised bed, but no luck. Your B aramata looks awesome, thats one I should try again. Where did you get your B Clara from? Jubaea will die in Florida. I'm sure someone will/has posted a success story on this but the amount of effort to get this palm to survive in our climate is not worth the effort. I, like many others, ignored loads of good advice by experienced growers and tried these in several different conditions/spots in Florida.... all ended up dying. 2 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Bad picture of a Parajubea sunkah and a Macrozamia moorei Livistona mariea One of a dozen or so mules in the yard. 9 of which I hybridized myself several years back under the direction of Dr. Wilcox. Used to be much harder and more expensive to track these down.... 11 1 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, 8B palms said: awesome palms, has the braziliensis ever had any freeze damage. I have one planted but it has been engulfed in grape vines and smilax, I need to see if its still alive, it doesn't take long for the wilds to recapture a yard. Have you tried W filifera? here in town, I would like to find a reliable source of the filibusta to gain some humidity along with cold tolerance. Never experienced freeze damage. It's been in the ground for about 7 years. 2 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Sabal domingensis Dioon edule and Ceratozamia hildae Brahae "super silver" (my last try on this one) Sabal "Lisa" (super slow grower for me) Sabal uresana 7 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Trachycarpus wagnerianus Cycas revoluta x multipinnata (might be multifrondis, I'll have to find the tag) Livistona australis Arenga micrantha 6 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Some yard pics (smallish Butia on the right is yatay) Backyard with a small Livistona decora 7 1 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Livistona nitida (about 15' overall) Livistona decora (this one is about 20' overall. Just on the edge of a wetland and the resulting growth has been FAST). 8 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Tank, awesome garden and inspirational for all of us! Especially those of us in cooler climates. So as someone who has both S. causiarum and S. domingensis at younger ages is it easy to tell them apart. When some of us order up a S. causiarium it often crosses our mind that perhaps we got the less hardy domingensis. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 That is an extremely fine palm garden that is extraordinarily well tended! Dr. Merrill Wilcox would be proud to see this work. Still remember your several threads of his highly impressive work. Thank you and great to see you back on the Board! 1 What you look for is what is looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8B palms Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Thanks for the info (cycads-n-palms) unfortunately they don't list B Clara in stock, I might contact them. Do you know of any local sources of L nitida? Has your flowered and if so set any seed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, RJ said: Tank, awesome garden and inspirational for all of us! Especially those of us in cooler climates. So as someone who has both S. causiarum and S. domingensis at younger ages is it easy to tell them apart. When some of us order up a S. causiarium it often crosses our mind that perhaps we got the less hardy domingensis. RJ, There was a bit of discussion on this a few years back on this board. Without revisiting the discussion, I will say that these are quite different looking palms. The S. causiarum looks more like a typical S. palmetto on steroids, with a nice deep green leaf color and not too much of a papery ligule (when compared to the domingensis). The S. domingensis has larger leaves, a more blue-green hue to the leaves, pronounced ligules. The leaves on the domingensis are larger and appears to be a larger palm than the S. causiarum. That said, the aforementioned discussion on these palms had folks wanting to switch the species using my plants as examples. Hopefully someone will chime in and correct me if I need correcting. Regardless, these are two distinct sabals and are very different looking plants at this stage. I have another domingensis planted out at my old house in Gainesville from the same seed batch as the ones at my current house that has about 4 feet of clean trunk. It is a massive palm. I'll try and post a pic at some point. 1 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, 8B palms said: Thanks for the info (cycads-n-palms) unfortunately they don't list B Clara in stock, I might contact them. Do you know of any local sources of L nitida? Has your flowered and if so set any seed? It has not flowered. I have a few L. nitida in pots. Let me check to see what I have available. I'll message you. Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, bubba said: That is an extremely fine palm garden that is extraordinarily well tended! Dr. Merrill Wilcox would be proud to see this work. Still remember your several threads of his highly impressive work. Thank you and great to see you back on the Board! Thanks Bubba! I hope you're doing well. I miss your pontificating about our Gators... 1 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinzyjr Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 @tank A lot of nice Brahea in the garden. Yeah, Nannorrhops grows slow as molasses here, too. 2 Lakeland, FL USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicdoc Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 Your b x pjc made a trunk! Ever thought of cleaning the trunk up smooth? I was thinking of doing that to mine once I got to that point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVEinMB Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 @tank awesome collection and gorgeous layout, I'm yelling at my phone right now! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve in Florida Posted May 15, 2020 Report Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) Do you have some clay in your yard or perhaps some other amendment to help the Brahea armata? Also, do you have problems with black spotting on it's waxy leaves and if so have you found a preventative? Edited May 15, 2020 by Steve in Florida 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swolte Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 What a fantastic collection! Looking at some of the vistas, my initial sense was that this should be in the forum above (where I go to get depressed... :p). Yet, I recognized, and own, a fair amount of the 8b palms (where I am)! Awesome that you have the space and perspective to make these palms look their best! I have half an acre 'available' to garden on, which is more than I ever dreamed of, but its crazy how fast that fills up when imagining these things maturing!! How old is this garden? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmsrgreat Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Really cool plantings @tank, glad to see you around as I just got back into visiting the site too. I also figured @bubba may enjoy me harassing him about my Tigers dominating season, putting the Gators to shame! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Thanks for the nice words on the garden. It’s about 2 acres on extremely sandy soils. We’ve owned the house for about 10 years and started planting stuff about 8 years ago. The property slopes down about 15 feet ending in a wet area with a wetland located in the adjacent lot. Here’s some additional plants that might be of interest. Sabal etonia Phoenix reclinata x canariensis Butia eriospatha One of my sad little Brahea decumbens 6 1 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8B palms Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 I agree an excellent selection of palms, have you tried A. wrightii, this another one I'd like to find a local source for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Cycas taitungensis Cycad panzinuensis x2 Macrozamia mountperriensis 6 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Ceratozamia kuesteriana Butia x Jubaea Chamaedorea microspadix x radicalis Sabal guatemalensis (now Mexicana?) 5 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Ceratozamia spp Macrozamia johnsonii (recovering from some kind of funk) Acoelorrhaphe wrightii (in a bit of a construction site) 4 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tank Posted May 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 2 hours ago, palmsrgreat said: Really cool plantings @tank, glad to see you around as I just got back into visiting the site too. I also figured @bubba may enjoy me harassing him about my Tigers dominating season, putting the Gators to shame! Good to hear from you. Not sure what this years football season will look like.... 1 Jason Gainesville, Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8B palms Posted May 16, 2020 Report Share Posted May 16, 2020 Tank I tried to send you a message but it bounced back saying you can't get messages. I am sure you are busy, but I was wondering if you might have had a chance to check if you might have had an extra L.nitida you night be able to part with, I don't have any palms to trade, I do have a segment of night blooming cactus (Cereus repandus) or seedling Bauhinia forficata, or $. If you get a chance to check let me know, thanks I have also heard that the SEC season is cancelled this year Craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasColdHardyPalms Posted May 21, 2020 Report Share Posted May 21, 2020 I have hundreds of l nitida and b. Clara available if you're live looking to add a few. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necturus Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 A little late, but how long has the Parajubea sunkha been in the ground? How do you water it in the summer time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubaea_James760 Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 I can't stop looking at your pictures! Wow! What an amazing garden with impressive specimens! If there ever was an award for "Best Cold Hardy Garden" zone 9a & below you'd surely be in the top 2 Hesperia,Southern CA (High Desert area). Zone 8b Elevation; about 3600 ft. Lowest temp. I can expect each year 19/20*f lowest since I've been growing palms *13(2007) Hottest temp. Each year *106 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskinPalms Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 Fantastic garden! Have you tried Dypsis decipiens or Pseudophoenix sargentii? I think both would appreciate the fast draining sandy soil and both are supposed to be fairly cold hardy. I know the Dypsis has been a big fail for most in Florida but it looks like you know what you are doing! 1 Parrish, FL Zone 9B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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