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My Dasylirion wheeleri died, while my brother's from the same batch was untouched. from feb 2021 While his Sabal Uresana died, mined lived.

A beautiful and large dasylirion-longissimum on my street also perished. 

 

Current Texas Gardening Zone 9a, Mean (1999-2024): 22F Low/104F High. Yearly Precipitation 39.17 inches.

Extremes: Low Min 4F 2021, 13.8F 2024. High Max 112F 2011/2023, Precipitation Max 58 inches 2015, Lowest 19 Inches 2011.

Weather Station: https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KTXCOLLE465

Ryan (Paleoclimatologist Since 4 billion Years ago, Meteorologist/Earth Scientist/Physicist Since 1995, Savy Horticulturist Since Birth.)

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9 hours ago, Meangreen94z said:

Where you are at I would think Dasylirion Texanum would be another great option. They are native to Central Texas, which receives more rain than probably any other area Dasylirion naturally grow. They showed absolutely no damage from our freeze last year with temperatures dropping near 0°F where they grow.

Appreciate the recommendation! Thank you 

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22 minutes ago, teddytn said:

Anyone have any experience with yucca harminae? 

This is one of the " tiny " yucca i'd plant here, but think it would slowly waste away w/ our heat ( and/or warmer winters.. ) Grows in the colder winter areas of N.E. AZ, UT, NM., & Colorado. 

Tough to say how it would handle the humidity back there during the summer, but you probably could keep it in a large pot, or source seed and try a couple in a raised bed outside once large enough..  planted in a soil mix that is 80-90% grit, pumice, etc material..

Supposedly a couple different forms.. One will eventually form a very short " trunk ".   Another.. ( maybe two? ), that don't form any sort of visible trunk..  Flowers when quite small.

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1 hour ago, Silas_Sancona said:

This is one of the " tiny " yucca i'd plant here, but think it would slowly waste away w/ our heat ( and/or warmer winters.. ) Grows in the colder winter areas of N.E. AZ, UT, NM., & Colorado. 

Tough to say how it would handle the humidity back there during the summer, but you probably could keep it in a large pot, or source seed and try a couple in a raised bed outside once large enough..  planted in a soil mix that is 80-90% grit, pumice, etc material..

Supposedly a couple different forms.. One will eventually form a very short " trunk ".   Another.. ( maybe two? ), that don't form any sort of visible trunk..  Flowers when quite small.

Pictures are deceiving I’ve seen, until I saw someone’s hand in the picture for reference. Crazy really, like the toumeyana Bella of yuccas.  

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18 minutes ago, teddytn said:

Pictures are deceiving I’ve seen, until I saw someone’s hand in the picture for reference. Crazy really, like the toumeyana Bella of yuccas.  

Anytime i'm somewhere that is selling a bunch A. tomeys.. i always look over what is out closely, just in case there are some nana form seedlings of  herrimaniae tucked in w/ them, lol. 

In terms of size, Y. glauca comes close, but has longer leaves ..and can get wider. Thought there was a cross between the two, but not sure..  Should be tried if not.

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On 2/18/2022 at 1:16 AM, RyManUtah said:

Jaegeriana:drool:

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Nice to see all these yuccas.  My seedlings are so small.....

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2 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

Nice to see all these yuccas.  My seedlings are so small.....

As were these once. :greenthumb: 

i was happy to see the juvenile population still establishing :36_14_15[1]:

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On 2/17/2022 at 6:16 PM, RyManUtah said:

Jaegeriana:drool:

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Ah you're in the Beaver Dam Wash Conservation Area or there abouts, one of my favorite corners of Utah to explore the desert, very unique and limited ecosystem for Utah.

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Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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25 minutes ago, Xerarch said:

Ah you're in the Beaver Dam Wash Conservation Area or there abouts, one of my favorite corners of Utah to explore the desert, very unique and limited ecosystem for Utah.

While I agree - this is actually just beyond Sullivan canyon in the Virgin River Gorge - Arizona.  Much, much closer to my house :greenthumb: 

was actually looking hiking around the most recent burn scars and got distracted by these as one does haha 

 

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16 minutes ago, RyManUtah said:

While I agree - this is actually just beyond Sullivan canyon in the Virgin River Gorge - Arizona.  Much, much closer to my house :greenthumb: 

was actually looking hiking around the most recent burn scars and got distracted by these as one does haha 

 

Yeah that’s close enough to be included in the “or there abouts” I supposed, great area nonetheless. I always try to track how far up the virgin river gorge the Joshua trees go since they don’t make it to the Utah border in that direction, but they get very close. 

Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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52 minutes ago, Xerarch said:

Yeah that’s close enough to be included in the “or there abouts” I supposed, great area nonetheless. I always try to track how far up the virgin river gorge the Joshua trees go since they don’t make it to the Utah border in that direction, but they get very close. 

Is it? I was being precise for you benefit; a task I am sure does not merit my being “corrected” l an uninvolved armchair party lol -  Apologies for not checking on your official translation of the term “or there abouts”.  Until today I didn’t realize you were the sole authority of the English language. :floor:
The boundary has always fascinated me as well. 

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17 minutes ago, RyManUtah said:

Is it? I was being precise for you benefit; a task I am sure does not merit my being “corrected” l an uninvolved armchair party lol -  Apologies for not checking on your official translation of the term “or there abouts”.  Until today I didn’t realize you were the sole authority of the English language. :floor:
The boundary has always fascinated me as well. 

It’s a pretty loose term, thanks for your precision. 

Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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9 hours ago, RyManUtah said:

As were these once. :greenthumb: 

i was happy to see the juvenile population still establishing :36_14_15[1]:

You're right. But they grow so much faster in  your climate than in mine.  I'm afraid I will not see mine at this size even if mine will survive their first years. Hopefully there will be another chance to see rhem in their natural habitat. 

Eckhard 

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Comparison of the closely related Yucca faxoniana(left) vs. carnerosana (right) at smaller size. Both are native to West Texas and North Mexico. Yucca Faxoniana’s range extends a little further north into New Mexico.

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7 hours ago, Meangreen94z said:

Comparison of the closely related Yucca faxoniana(left) vs. carnerosana (right) at smaller size. Both are native to West Texas and North Mexico. Yucca Faxoniana’s range extends a little further north into New Mexico.

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The carnerosana is gorgeous, those long filaments!!! Wow. Looks like it has that really upright growth habit like faxoniana. 

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19 hours ago, Meangreen94z said:

Comparison of the closely related Yucca faxoniana(left) vs. carnerosana (right) at smaller size. Both are native to West Texas and North Mexico. Yucca Faxoniana’s range extends a little further north into New Mexico.

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Both are very beautiful plants. I have one of each as small plants. The difference in my climate is that Y. faxoniana can be planted in a protected area while Y. carnerosana never survives a wet winter in ground. Hope mine will become such beauties too.

Eckhard

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Planted this varigated yucca gloriosa in 2013. It took a lot of damage this year, we had a ton of total hours below freezing. Did some spring cleanup on it, might do some more later. 94DB02A6-1204-4955-BAB6-610CE6A8EF42.thumb.jpeg.cfa2d4961c9447e0a4bd54292d8eea89.jpeg

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Did some cleaning on my hopefully trunking Yuccas.

Y. "Marcel" - Y- "Bright Edge" x thompsoniana

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Y. filamentosa x rostrata "Blue swan"

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Y. filamentosa "Rosemarie" x rostrata

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Y. filamentosa x rostrata

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Y. floribunda (hybrid)

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The old trunk is already dying but new pups are emerging.

This weekend it's time for more.

Eckhard

 

 

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1 hour ago, Meangreen94z said:

I have seedlings going

Supposed to be pretty tough from what I’ve read. Pictures look like they turn into beasts!

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2 hours ago, Meangreen94z said:

I have seedlings going

I too :D

Hope they get as big as they get in your climat. For cold hardiness I'm not sure if they would survive here. Any thoughts how tough they are?

Eckhard

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2 hours ago, Meangreen94z said:

Junction, Texas area . Yucca torreyi, Constricta, and rupicola

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I love these colourful flower stalks. Can't get enough of them. Mine are soooo small, hope to see them flowering one day.

Eckhard

 

 

 

 

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Rostrata on the left, faxoniana on the right. Love child of those 2 in the middle from coldhardycactus. Really excited to see what it does in the ground. Leaves are significantly longer than the much older rostrata, should turn into a monster.53BBA3A2-053A-4F35-AC3A-457F6D321F09.thumb.jpeg.ecef6d19a74103a8b57918c930ec9fd9.jpeg

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On 3/24/2022 at 4:18 PM, teddytn said:

Rostrata on the left, faxoniana on the right. Love child of those 2 in the middle from coldhardycactus. Really excited to see what it does in the ground. Leaves are significantly longer than the much older rostrata, should turn into a monster.53BBA3A2-053A-4F35-AC3A-457F6D321F09.thumb.jpeg.ecef6d19a74103a8b57918c930ec9fd9.jpeg

Hi Teddy, wonderful looking plants especially the hybrid of these two. Hopefuly somedays seeds will be available for sale. I truly need this hybrid for my garden.

Eckhard

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Y. rigida.. Completely unaware there were several specimens here until i saw flowers peeking above other stuff today..

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On 3/21/2022 at 1:53 PM, Palmensammler said:

I too :D

Hope they get as big as they get in your climat. For cold hardiness I'm not sure if they would survive here. Any thoughts how tough they are?

Eckhard

I’m not sure how hardy they are in a wet environment, I guess we’ll find out.

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Hopefully the last signs of winter. Never had that much snow during the complety winter season as we do have currently. Some Yuccas and Trachies covered by snow.

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Have a nice weekend.

Eckhard

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

Hopefully the last signs of winter. Never had that much snow during the complety winter season as we do have currently. Some Yuccas and Trachies covered by snow.

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Have a nice weekend.

Eckhard

 

 

 

 

It’s funny how temperatures can swing wildly year to year. I’ve seen freezing temperatures in early April, this year is much warmer. Tuesdays high is 94°F(34.4°C)

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Yes even with one year. One week before we had +20°C / ~70°F and a lot of sunny days.

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On 4/2/2022 at 3:14 PM, Meangreen94z said:

It’s funny how temperatures can swing wildly year to year. I’ve seen freezing temperatures in early April, this year is much warmer. Tuesdays high is 94°F(34.4°C)

The Austin area high has risen to 97°F for Tuesday, but parts of the Rio Grande Valley in far South Texas are forecasted to see 107°F(41.7°C) Wednesday. Crazy.

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21 hours ago, Meangreen94z said:

The Austin area high has risen to 97°F for Tuesday, but parts of the Rio Grande Valley in far South Texas are forecasted to see 107°F(41.7°C) Wednesday. Crazy.

 

Would love to see theses temps.......

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3 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

Would love to see theses temps.......

Yeah, but this is an anomaly. They rarely get that high even during the summer. Mission, Texas , which is right next to McAllen now shows 108°F for Wednesday.

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On 4/4/2022 at 7:24 PM, Meangreen94z said:

Yeah, but this is an anomaly. They rarely get that high even during the summer. Mission, Texas , which is right next to McAllen now shows 108°F for Wednesday.

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Forgot until now, what temps did TX hit during this early heatwave?

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On 4/4/2022 at 2:01 PM, Palmensammler said:

Would love to see theses temps.......

A day or two between 100- 108F ..here and there thru the summer   is one thing   ..Try on 4 ( ..or 5 ) months where 15 or more days -each month- are 105F+,   then give the experience a star rating..  **Added caveat,  ..it only cools off to only about 80F at night during the worst part of summer.

On the more optimistic end, would bet your experience would only earn 2 stars   ..out of 5, haha..

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