Silas_Sancona Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 51 minutes ago, 80s Kid said: Well put and thanks for the recommendation. I used to visit Longwood Gardens in PA often and would highly recommend that place to anyone if you happen to be near the area. Decades ago when Phoenix was much smaller it was definitely cooler but things have changed a lot. I'm not sure what bougainvillea is typically hardy to but can say it's everywhere around here. I have family around St. Augustine, FL and know on at least one or two occasions that bougainvillea vines/shrubs have been hit hard by cold snaps in that area (Zone 9b). I'm in a pretty low area although there's a wash nearby that seems to suck all of the coldest air into it. I can literally walk a few hundred feet down the road and you feel a wall of cooler air as you get near the wash. Basically I'm wondering if a Cocos Nucifera (sp?) can be grown here if adequate moisture and humidity are provided. People grow huge citrus trees all over. I have a hibiscus that was out all winter with zero issues except that it got too big so I planted it in the ground this spring. It's doing well in the intense summer heat (it's around 115 right now) as long as I give it plenty of water. I like a challenge but it's a pain trying to get out of state plants into AZ. In PA (Zone 7a/b) I had 2 Windmill Palms (photo) growing that made it through 2 winters and a Takil Palm for probably 5 winters (although it would sometimes defoliate but start growing again in the spring). Most common Bougainvillea here is " Barbra Karst " ..The Pink/ Magenta ones you see planted along all the highways. Have seen plenty of others though.. Orange or Brick Red- colored ones are likely " Flame ", Yellow may be " California Gold ". They definitely can get nipped in our cooler winters, but bounce back with just a week long stretch of 75+ deg days.. That said, my personal favorite is " Torch Glow " .. a thorn-less, and shrubbier cultivar that can look spectacular when grown well.. Very easy, never gets too big/ looks more refined compared to standard Bougainvillea, and tolerates quite a bit of cold ( Used often in many landscapes out by Queen Creek / around here, to a somewhat lesser extent ) As far as Coconuts, if you surf through the main, Palm- centric area of the forum, someone local managed to find one in a neighborhood in Mesa.. Might be in the " Local AZ. Thread " thread.. Pretty sure if you're in the right spot in town, and can get one through the first few summers/ keep it watered and fed, Coconuts are definitely possible here. @aztropic is a great person to talk with concerning other, more unique palms that can also be grown here, particularly really neat stuff from the Caribbean.. @Tom in Tucson and @Rod are other great sources of experience w/ various palms and how they handle our unique climate.. As far as other stuff, As long as you're in 9b, your " list " of plant possibilities if pretty wide open, depending on how much space you have to lay with, your yard and neighborhood - sized micro climates, etc of course. The creator/ Moderator of a well known cactus and succulent- oriented forum lives up there in Fountain Hills and is growing some pretty neat stuff in his yard. One big plus of living up that way is, since Fountain Hills sits just within the " Foothills " zone, you can get a bit more rain this time of year, and, because there's more open desert around, overnight heat can be a little less intense ( say cooling off to 82F while Phoenix bottoms out at 90 or 91.. ) That's another weather- related factor that can stress out plants here. Access to stuff can definitely be a challenge here.. Very rare that the better known nurseries in/ around Phoenix will offer much in the way of " exotics " ( Never buy from Moon Valley ) That said, there are some great backyard growers to pull all sorts of things from.. I also go to Tucson to access stuff that is near impossible ..but shouldn't be so hard to find.. up here. If looking to start with bigger- sized specimens of X palm/ other plants that might not be available locally, some folks here will make trips to San Diego. Some great growers out there as well ( several on the forum also ) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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