Estlander Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) 56 minutes ago, kinzyjr said: @Estlander You have a really nice looking garden! The bordered bed in the background especially caught my eye. Thank you. Just trying to create my own little paradise. It’s still work in progress, and waiting for some of the stuff I’ve planted to get bigger and add to the overall look, plus a bunch of stuff still in pots, including your Arenga Engleri. Thanks again for the seeds. They germinated nicely. Here’s some of them..... Edited November 16, 2019 by Estlander 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT A TA Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Brrrr, below 70 when I got up this morning! hahaha Eastlander, nice yard! Your Papaya looks thirsty, they can take a lot of water. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estlander Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 I agree! Anything below 70F just doesn’t feel pleasant. About the papaya, I figured since it’s winter, it’s not doing much growing anyway and we’ve had some rains, so it should be ok. I had a way bigger one, but it was planted in a lower part of yard, and with the heavy rains last winter, that part of yard flooded often, so the roots rotted. Learned from my mistakes and planted this one on higher ground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT A TA Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 43 minutes ago, Estlander said: About the papaya, I figured since it’s winter, it’s not doing much growing anyway and we’ve had some rains, so it should be ok. Makes sense. I forget how much cooler it is up there and slower they grow in the cool months. I've got about 25 I'm experimenting with. The two in pic below were started the same time along with others in community pots. The one in ground was from the same seedling batch and was the same size as the one in the 6" pot when planted. The top pic shows the growth difference two months in the ground made compared to remaining in the pot. Bottom pic is about three months in ground, same type 6" pot for scale. And it's a beautiful S FL fall day here! Gonna work on the gardens I've been making. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estlander Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) Wow, your Papaya looks good. Massive beast. And the palms in the background. Crazy jealous of the plants you guys further south can grow. And not even that much south. Just 2 degrees south of here at 28N, like St. Pete and Cocoa Beach, - Coconuts, Royals, Foxtails and Bottle palms everywhere. Edited November 16, 2019 by Estlander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estlander Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Also surprised that My Ti plant, and the ones all over the area(very heavily planted around here), including the ones in completely open spots, are all totally fine. I understand that they’re wimps when it comes to cold, taking 30 degrees only briefly. Yet windy 31F with windchill down to 23F didn’t bother them the least, yet many banana plants took moderate damage. Here’s mine today.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenon Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Estlander said: Also surprised that My Ti plant, and the ones all over the area(very heavily planted around here), including the ones in completely open spots, are all totally fine. I understand that they’re wimps when it comes to cold, taking 30 degrees only briefly. I've always observed that Ti plants, at least the types commonly sold, are good to about the 25-27F degree range. Not super tender at all. 4 Jonathan Katy, TX (Zone 9a) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estlander Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Xenon said: I've always observed that Ti plants, at least the types commonly sold, are good to about the 25-27F degree range. Not super tender at all. Wow, that's pretty good hardiness for such plant. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 Low 53.9F this morning. 1 Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estlander Posted November 17, 2019 Report Share Posted November 17, 2019 What’s up peninsular Florida!? Wow, you’re cool today. Panhandle sending you some warmth, lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT A TA Posted November 18, 2019 Report Share Posted November 18, 2019 55 minutes ago, Estlander said: What’s up peninsular Florida!? Wow, you’re cool today. Panhandle sending you some warmth, lol Yup , cool out. Actually put on long farmer pants and wore a long sleeve T shirt today. Don't think I've ever done that in Nov. since I moved down here. Gonna test the "heat" (toaster wire in AC duct) in a little while to make sure it still works. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmsOrl Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Saturday and Sunday were both in the 50s F during the afternoons and Saturday night at around 1:00am when I had to run to the store it was 48F and drizzling with a stiff breeze. I dressed in jeans and a heavy sweater both days and felt comfortable (never too warm like is often the case here). It did feel good today once it warmed into the low 70s by afternoon. I'm sure my true tropicals were a bit traumatized by the early chill, but nothing fatal I'm sure. I wouldn't trust any Cyrtostachys seedling in back to back days in the 50s so I am glad it is protected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinzyjr Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 A nice picture gallery of snowfall in Florida: Photos: Snow in Florida 1 1 Lakeland, FL USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Gotta love it in those old photos. I remember playing in snow when I was a kid in VA. But no more now I grow palms in FL. How about this one from Jan 2014? 1 1 Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinzyjr Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 @PalmatierMeg I grew up in an area where it snowed as well. I'll trade shoveling snow for growing palms any day of the week! 1 Lakeland, FL USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRabbit Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 I miss the snow and change of seasons personally, but that doesn’t exactly jive well with palms. Later in life I think it would be nice to split the year between two locations, perhaps Sarasota and Washington state. 1 1 Westchase | 9b, St. Petersburg | 9b, & Laurel | 10a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmaceae Posted November 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Being from Chicago I do miss the snow and the change of seasons. But that does not work well with growing palms like RedRabbit said. I spent half my life up north and the other half here in Florida. 1 Lived in Cape Coral, Miami, Orlando and St. Petersburg Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester B Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 I'm from Toronto originally. I could care less if I ever see snow again and would happily move further south from here if I could. Everyone who's from a warmer place always says how beautiful it is after it snows, all I can think of is the sloppy mess on the roads, dirty cars and boots, and salt eating your car away. You all in Florida should count your blessings I'll be visiting in February so hope to collect a few seeds to bring back with me. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas_Sancona Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chester B said: I'm from Toronto originally. I could care less if I ever see snow again and would happily move further south from here if I could. Everyone who's from a warmer place always says how beautiful it is after it snows, all I can think of is the sloppy mess on the roads, dirty cars and boots, and salt eating your car away. You all in Florida should count your blessings I'll be visiting in February so hope to collect a few seeds to bring back with me. I think of Snow as I think of Beer, some people enjoy it.. What's so great about the stuff, I'll never understand. Beauty of Snow is only enjoyable when you're indoors/ around the holidays.. otherwise it's a pita, for all the reasons listed above, and a whole lot more... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester B Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) I can say the majority of people in Toronto want snow for Christmas (40% probability) but after that they want it gone. The only thing I like about winter is ice fishing. Edited November 20, 2019 by Chester B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinzyjr Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 The day I left for Florida there was 16 inches of fresh snow on the ground. Don't miss it at all. If I could stop arctic air from ever crossing the Florida border again I'd do it tomorrow. 1 2 Lakeland, FL USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmaceae Posted November 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2019 December 5th does not look good for Florida. Hopefully it will change for the better. 2 Lived in Cape Coral, Miami, Orlando and St. Petersburg Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hombre de Palmas Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 This morning's GFS not so dire, but chilly nonetheless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew92 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) On 11/23/2019 at 10:27 AM, Palmaceae said: December 5th does not look good for Florida. Hopefully it will change for the better. Looking like there will be some kind of colder spell for us around early Dec. How cold is the question. Model runs have flip flopped between a solid freeze all the way into Central FL to hardly even freezing in the northern reaches of the state. Edited November 24, 2019 by Matthew92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinzyjr Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 The future forecast looks like cool, but not extreme cold, will come and go before Christmas. Meanwhile, keep an eye peeled for severe weather if you are along the I-4 corridor. 1 Lakeland, FL USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PalmatierMeg Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 hours ago, kinzyjr said: The future forecast looks like cool, but not extreme cold, will come and go before Christmas. Meanwhile, keep an eye peeled for severe weather if you are along the I-4 corridor. We got 20 minutes of hard rain earlier this morning, maybe more on the way. I haven't been outside to check the rain gauge. This past Thursday evening we got 5" of rain (2x the Dec. average) that filled up the canal again. 1 Meg Palms of Victory I shall wear Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise) Florida Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal Elevation: 15 feetI'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinzyjr Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Just now, PalmatierMeg said: We got 20 minutes of hard rain earlier this morning, maybe more on the way. I haven't been outside to check the rain gauge. This past Thursday evening we got 5" of rain (2x the Dec. average) that filled up the canal again. We had some rain Thursday, but this morning it really let loose while I was working on getting a few gifts shipped. I don't have a rain gauge, but it wouldn't surprise me if we got 2 inches as hard as it rained. It's keeping the dust down from the demolition site outside, thankfully. Lakeland, FL USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottmitAlex Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 Rained hard this morning for about 2 hours in Orlando. We noticed a stark difference in evening temperatures between tonight and last night. Last night it was warm and humid. Tonight is cool and humid. 1 5 year high 42.2C/108F (07/06/2018)--5 year low 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023)--Lowest recent/current winter: 4.6C/40.3F (1/19/2023) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinzyjr Posted December 15, 2019 Report Share Posted December 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, GottmitAlex said: Rained hard this morning for about 2 hours in Orlando. We noticed a stark difference in evening temperatures between tonight and last night. Last night it was warm and humid. Tonight is cool and humid. That's Central Florida for you. If you don't like the weather, just wait 5 minutes and it will change. 1 1 Lakeland, FL USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas_Sancona Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 18z GFS, 288 hours.. Tidbits.. What in tha' heck? ..Florida?, really??. .. Regardless, had to share.. Happy Holidays! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmaceae Posted December 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said: 18z GFS, 288 hours.. Tidbits.. What in tha' heck? ..Florida?, really??. .. Regardless, had to share.. Happy Holidays! Yeah I saw that, looks like a winter snow storm in NE and Central Florida! I doubt that will happen as it is always inaccurate this far out. But here is the temperature map for the same time period. 1 Lived in Cape Coral, Miami, Orlando and St. Petersburg Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas_Sancona Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 29 minutes ago, Palmaceae said: Yeah I saw that, looks like a winter snow storm in NE and Central Florida! I doubt that will happen as it is always inaccurate this far out. But here is the temperature map for the same time period. Agree 100% Think we'd be more likely to see an inch of snow in all of Phoenix before this forecast run were accurate, lol Still, figured it were worth sharing w/ everyone for few laughs.. No doubt there are probably those who would encourage such nonsense though. Stop crossin' your fingers.. There has been some hints of a quick swipe or two of cooler air for Florida around/after the new year, but what the 18z run shows above is definitely far fetched.. At the same time, Polar Vortex looks solid ..and anticipated to stay stable and centered over the Arctic for awhile so, unless things change, aside from quick moving areas of seasonally cool air here and there, no real / significant intrusions of arctic air for at least the next week.. maybe two weeks across most of the country.. Have heard some chatter this generally average to mild / not all that cold pattern might settle in for most of Jan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmaceae Posted December 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said: Agree 100% Think we'd be more likely to see an inch of snow in all of Phoenix before this forecast run were accurate, lol Still, figured it were worth sharing w/ everyone for few laughs.. No doubt there are probably those who would encourage such nonsense though. Stop crossin' your fingers.. There has been some hints of a quick swipe or two of cooler air for Florida around/after the new year, but what the 18z run shows above is definitely far fetched.. At the same time, Polar Vortex looks solid ..and anticipated to stay stable and centered over the Arctic for awhile so, unless things change, aside from quick moving areas of seasonally cool air here and there, no real / significant intrusions of arctic air for at least the next week.. maybe two weeks across most of the country.. Have heard some chatter this generally average to mild / not all that cold pattern might settle in for most of Jan. I am praying for a warm winter with no freezes, but we never know! Since we moved from SW Florida to St. Pete 6 months ago and transplanted 140 palms I am really hoping for a good winter so they can get established before any real cold comes in. I pray you guys over there also have a warm winter! 1 1 Lived in Cape Coral, Miami, Orlando and St. Petersburg Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas_Sancona Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Just now, Palmaceae said: I am praying for a warm winter with no freezes, but we never know! Since we moved from SW Florida to St. Pete 6 months ago and transplanted 140 palms I am really hoping for a good winter so they can get established before any real cold comes in. I pray you guys over there also have a warm winter! Very true as well, looks good for now, but is the season for keeping watch, just in case. Hoping for a mild winter for you, ..and everyone else back there also.. As long as it stays above 31F 98% of the time over the next 8 or 9 weeks, that is fine. Cool-ish nights help keep Mosquitoes away, and helps stimulate more flowers on a few things i have.. On the other hand, surprise week of 90-90+F heat in mid Feb. / early March can delay its arrival until June.. 75-85F is perfect.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew92 Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 13 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said: 18z GFS, 288 hours.. Tidbits.. What in tha' heck? ..Florida?, really??. .. Regardless, had to share.. Happy Holidays! That would be really fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew92 Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 (edited) The current GFS runs show some freezing temps making it all the way down to Central FL around that time frame now. I'm not taking it too seriously, but it's starting to consistently show a colder event for FL around then (Jan 4-6 somewhere around there). Will keep watch. Unfortunately, I think it's highly unlikely we will see a repeat of the record warm winter that we had last year. Edited December 24, 2019 by Matthew92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hombre de Palmas Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 The GFS has been pointing to a cold period for Florida in early January for the past week or so, but they have been flip-flopping a bit on the timing and extent. Since it is toward the end of the forecast period, and I have seen no support from the NWS 6-10 & 8-14 day forecasts, or the CMC & Euro, I'll not panic...yet It is 56.4°F this morning. That is plenty chilly for this winter morn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdsonofthesouth Posted December 27, 2019 Report Share Posted December 27, 2019 On 12/14/2019 at 11:29 PM, kinzyjr said: That's Central Florida for you. If you don't like the weather, just wait 5 minutes and it will change. Funny that saying is pretty popular here too! 1 LOWS 16/17 12F, 17/18 3F, 18/19 7F, 19/20 20F Palms growing in my garden: Trachycarpus Fortunei, Chamaerops Humilis, Chamaerops Humilis var. Cerifera, Rhapidophyllum Hystrix, Sabal Palmetto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmaceae Posted December 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 New map, not looking good January 9th, if it comes true. 1 Lived in Cape Coral, Miami, Orlando and St. Petersburg Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinzyjr Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 @Palmaceae Let's hope not. It's been an awfully mild winter so far. Unless it goes below 36F in the next few days, that will be our official annual low for 2019. Some areas in town haven't gone below 39F. 1 Lakeland, FL USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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