Silas_Sancona Posted October 18, 2019 Report Share Posted October 18, 2019 16 hours ago, greysrigging said: Actually Silas_Sancona Nathan, i've been having a discussion on a local FB weather page re the brutally hot summers you guys in the Phoenix region endure, particularly the one just gone. Australia's centers of heat are generally in remote sparsely populated regions, Ie the Pilbara in WA, North Western Queensland and northern South Australia and NSW. For example, Marble Bar last summer maximums averaged 43.7c, 43.4c and 44.1c for Dec, Jan and Feb, Birdsville in Queensland 38.9c, 44.0c and 38.2c. As I explained to folks here, Greater Phoenix has a population of 1.8 million ? These Aussie hot spots have a population of 1.8 billion flies and a couple of hundred people each ! It would be like having a City the size of Perth or Adelaide in the middle of the Tanami or Simpson Deserts ! Can't recall exact numbers but that seems pretty close, and the people who track future growth of the area anticipating another million ( at least ) to move here over the next few decades. There's a lot of talk revolving around the idea that the entire corridor between Phoenix and Tucson ( roughly 100 miles south ) will eventually become a megaopolis, much like the Los Angeles basin is now. Looking at a map like Google Earth, you can see just how much space there is between here and there.. No clue how they anticipate supplying everyone with water. Southern end of Tucson is another area of the state where significant growth is suggested over time also.. Add 2-4c worth of extra heat, across the region.. if suggested trends are correct, and ..I can't imagine how that will go. Local utilities are already fighting over what temperature constitutes as " too hot " before shutting off power to people who might be late on their bills during the summer. Corporate ya' hoos want the - wont shut off power- threshold somewhere around 105F, while other organizations, more intune w/ recommendations made by scientists, who study the effects of heat exposure, want the threshold at 95F ( wouldn't shut off power if temps are above 95F ) My house can get up to 90 when it is 98 out just in the 3 hour window were required to use less power to save on our bill. The overall debate was triggered by a couple fatalities that occurred last year, simply because those customers were late on their bills.. Think I heard that something like 5-7 thousand people ( might be off, cant remember exact numbers ) owe upwards of several million in late fees to one of our electric companies. ..and that's just this summer alone. Now, according to the same report, those people have 4 months or so to pay off what they owe, on top of what they will owe going forward, otherwise your power will be disconnected, unless you can extend your repayment timeline. I can see how, in some cases, that might work out, but, that might also extend out so far that you're caught up just as it is 100F+ again in mid / late May. And the cycle starts again, except now " Oh, we had to raise electricity rates again, to pay for ( bigger salaries/ this guy's new boat, that person's vacation.. whatever) .. so sorry. Stay cool, ok? ." And yet, even the mention of mandating Solar gets lots of scoffs and, " that's disgusting " looks from many who should be instituting such policies. No, Solar isn't perfect, but really?? Pretty crazy, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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