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Chamaedorea woodsoniana - no real growth

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Hi,

what am I doing wrong? Always when a third leave opens an old one dies. Is this typicall or a deficit in nutrients, humidity or something else?

Palm is watered regulary and sprayed each second day.  Location is the bathroom so humidity is normaly a little bit higher.

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Hi Rob,

attached the picture.  Temperatures between 18°C to 22°C, Northwest facing window with some evening sun. Soil is a mixture of crushed clay, coco fibres and pine bark. Gets water each two days. 
 

Thanks for you help.

 C. woodsoniana

Eckhard

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Hello Eckhard

I cultivate  with  success  30 speies of chamaedorea, but I have given up cultivating C. woodsoniana, this species, is  durable to light frost here, but it never grew, in the end the plants were all weak and died slowly

GIUSEPPE

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22 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

Hi,

what am I doing wrong? Always when a third leave opens an old one dies. Is this typicall or a deficit in nutrients, humidity or something else?

Palm is watered regulary and sprayed each second day.  Location is the bathroom so humidity is normaly a little bit higher.

Eckhard

Seem like spidermite infection

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34 minutes ago, gyuseppe said:

Hello Eckhard

I cultivate  with  success  30 speies of chamaedorea, but I have given up cultivating C. woodsoniana, this species, is  durable to light frost here, but it never grew, in the end the plants were all weak and died slowly

Wow, impressive collection! Any pics?

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Hi Ante,

no spidermites visible with magnifying glass. Plant is sprayed each two days to increase humidity and gets some chemicals from time to time.

Other Chamaedoreas treated the same way grow marvellous.

Eckhard

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Hallo nach Leonberg!

What do you mean with »crushed clay«, is it Seramis or LECA? Why did you add coco fibers? What is the size of your pot?

It looks to me like a root problem, caused by too large sized pot and inadequate watering; humidity is no matter, don’t spray so much.

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It is true Ekhard that the plants do not look good, but...

My big 10ft tall healthy one in the backyard only holds 5 leaves anyway, plus a spear.

And the two smaller ones beside it to the right, one would be 1 mtr the other .6 mtr, they also only carry 3 leaves. 

So even if you can improve its health it still may not carry more leaves for a while.

From my limited experience the leaf number seems normal, and mine were also slow growing when small.

 

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Cheers Steve

It is not dead, it is just senescence.

   

 

 

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Hi Pal,

yes Seramis. The coco fibres are only around 20% of the soil. The pot size is Ø 14 cm and hight 12 cm. What do you mean with inadequate watering?

Shall I replant it into a smaller and higher pot? So you think spraying is not that important?

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37 minutes ago, Palmensammler said:

Hi Pal,

yes Seramis. The coco fibres are only around 20% of the soil. The pot size is Ø 14 cm and hight 12 cm. What do you mean with inadequate watering?

Shall I replant it into a smaller and higher pot? So you think spraying is not that important?

Eckhard

I would not add any coco fibers, but repot it into a much smaller pot, e.g. like my 8x8xH9cm ones, and then with the small pot (not the deep palm pots!!!) and the very fast draining soil water it maybe daily. — But at first you have to look at the roots, if they are healthy or as I guess only in a poor condition.

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Hi Pal,

will check its roots tomorrow and plant it into a smaller pot. Hope this helps.

Eckhard

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@Giuseppe,

nice pictures. What Chammies are you showing?

Eckhard

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15 hours ago, Palmensammler said:

@Giuseppe,

nice pictures. What Chammies are you showing?

Eckhard

in order of photos:
Chamaedorea metallica
Chamaedorea benziei
Chamaedorea pinnatifrons
Chamaedorea oblongata

Chamaedorea radicalis hybrid
Chamaedorea stolonifera
Chamaedorea tenella

Chamaedorea sartori
Chamaedorea arenbergiana
Chamaedorea plumosa 
Chamaedorea elatior

GIUSEPPE

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I have 2 young Chamaedorea woodsiana that are growing realtively slow as well. They aren’t looking great at the moment, as I spent some time in the hospital and couldn’t take care of them myself. They are a bit of a spider mite magnet, need to treat them again. They also seem to have a slight nutritional deficiency. They usually push a new leaf every 6 weeks or so at the moment and lose one existing one. They were in potting soil up until a few weeks ago, the roots didn’t look great.

I had a third one that went completely pinnate early on, but then tanked almost completely and now seems to want to survive. 

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Hi Dennis,

yours look way better than my plants. Today I potted them into a smaller pot without coco fibres. The roots looked good. Hopefully they recover soon.

Do you know a good and not to expensive palm shop in Vienna? Especially for Chamaedoreas? Sometimes I'm there for business.

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Hi Eckhard,

Unfortunately I know of no such store here in Vienna. I get all my palms and seeds from the EU or occasionally from the US.

Dennis

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