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T. fortunei from seeds question.


Hardypalms

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Hi

I am in a zone 7 (Atlanta-GA). I have acquired fresh T. fortunei seeds.
I am going to plant 25 seeds in 2 large bins (made to grow vegetables) (Total 50 seeds).
I was going once they reach decent seedling size to plant a batch in my yard and keep the other batch in my garage over winter to plant in the spring.
I keep plants in my garage over winter every year and they do fine so I figure the seedlings should be fine too.
Now for the batch that I am going to plant, I am a little nervous as they should be ready by the fall but by the time winter comes they might not have developed enough roots in the ground to survive.

Need your thought about that if you may.

Pat

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1 hour ago, Hardypalms said:

Hi

I am in a zone 7 (Atlanta-GA). I have acquired fresh T. fortunei seeds.
I am going to plant 25 seeds in 2 large bins (made to grow vegetables) (Total 50 seeds).
I was going once they reach decent seedling size to plant a batch in my yard and keep the other batch in my garage over winter to plant in the spring.
I keep plants in my garage over winter every year and they do fine so I figure the seedlings should be fine too.
Now for the batch that I am going to plant, I am a little nervous as they should be ready by the fall but by the time winter comes they might not have developed enough roots in the ground to survive.

Need your thought about that if you may.

Pat

Once you plant them out, I'd give them some protection for the first couple of years at least.  I've seen them growing decent at your airport, but they are mature specimens.  If you want them to look a little nicer, keep them close to the south side of your house.  Welcome to PalmTalk!

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Do I understand correctly that you have seeds but haven't germinated them yet? And you want to germinate, grow and plant half the seedlings in the next 6-8 months, i.e., fall 2019? If so, I believe you are trying to push the envelope a bit too hard. Germination may take anywhere from a few weeks to a few months or longer. While I can't grow Trachies myself I am under the impression they are not rocket growers. Before you subject them to a GA winter I suggest you grow them in pots for at least 12-18 months before planting any of them in the ground. I wouldn't plant anything smaller than a 1- to 3g size palm. And I wouldn't plant any time other than spring to early summer. 

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Meg

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Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
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Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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Thanks so much Meg for the answer. That helps a lot, I will plant the seedlings next spring. I don't know if you remember me but a couple of years back me and my wife visited you and your yard.

 

Pat

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I agree with Meg wait till next year at least to plant them. Trachy s will germinate quick at temps around 68-78°. Good luck!

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They grow slow.  I think usually people plant them out after 2-3 years.  Here is a thread with pics from 1-4 years.

 

 

 

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I had fresh seed from banana joe and it took a few months alone before they started germinating   In 9 months only a few working on lead number 3. They are in my palm room 77f artificial and sun light mix with shade 

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20 hours ago, Hardypalms said:

Thanks so much Meg for the answer. That helps a lot, I will plant the seedlings next spring. I don't know if you remember me but a couple of years back me and my wife visited you and your yard.

 

Pat

Thanks for reminding me, Pat. Good luck with the Trachies. And I concur with all the other answers. The larger they are the better they will handle a zone 7 winter.

Meg

Palms of Victory I shall wear

Cape Coral (It's Just Paradise)
Florida
Zone 10A on the Isabelle Canal
Elevation: 15 feet

I'd like to be under the sea in an octopus' garden in the shade.

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