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The 2 Coconuts east of downtown Orlando, across from Fashion Square Mall look good after this past winter. And still holding coconuts.

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Eric

Orlando, FL

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6 hours ago, Eric in Orlando said:

The 2 Coconuts east of downtown Orlando, across from Fashion Square Mall look good after this past winter. And still holding coconuts.

The Smashburger coconuts pictured did pretty well.  The I-Drive coconut doesn't appear to have more than very minor damage. 

I took photos of both on my way back home from the Leu spring sale and posted them to the Florida Christmas Freeze 2022 thread:

https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/76409-florida-christmas-freeze-2022/?do=findComment&comment=1106074

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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On 4/3/2023 at 5:37 PM, kinzyjr said:

The Smashburger coconuts pictured did pretty well.  The I-Drive coconut doesn't appear to have more than very minor damage. 

I took photos of both on my way back home from the Leu spring sale and posted them to the Florida Christmas Freeze 2022 thread:

https://www.palmtalk.org/forum/topic/76409-florida-christmas-freeze-2022/?do=findComment&comment=1106074

I just nabbed a pic Thursday at I-Drive

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Driving home from Leesburg (yes, LEESBURG!!) last night and this cocos caught my eye outside of La Palma Mexican Restaurant.51DE4189-6D3E-4672-B1EE-C59FEF2F9BC4.thumb.jpeg.ddb53af8ce1c5654020e22c16bb16775.jpeg

after noticing all the palm trees I noticed an interesting pair, and I made a quick u-turn to get back and snap a pic.

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Obviously they don’t look great, but the real spectacle is that these cocos have been in the ground for 5+ years (according to street view) . They have sycamore shade in the summer, but behind the fence the hill rolls down, away from the palms, in a potential cold sink during the winter. I need to eat at this restaurant sometime and support their efforts!

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On 4/3/2023 at 11:25 AM, Eric in Orlando said:

The 2 Coconuts east of downtown Orlando, across from Fashion Square Mall look good after this past winter. And still holding coconuts.

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Are those thin spots 2010? 

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I followed those starting in 2013-2014.  They weren't there for 2010 (at the Smashburgers).

I think with coconuts if the cold could damage the trunk or the developing trunk tissue it would kill the palm outright.  This is not true with slightly cold hardier palms like royals though.

So they have been there about a decade now.

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6 hours ago, PortCharlotteCocos said:

I followed those starting in 2013-2014.  They weren't there for 2010 (at the Smashburgers).

I think with coconuts if the cold could damage the trunk or the developing trunk tissue it would kill the palm outright.  This is not true with slightly cold hardier palms like royals though.

So they have been there about a decade now.

10 hours ago, Aceraceae said:

Are those thin spots 2010? 

The earliest I see them on Google Street View is July 2013:

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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The Neovietchia storckii at Leu gardens is trying to come back.  Surprised to see it at all there.  Some other surprises too and a ton of cool plants and ideas.

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A coconut about a mile from me on Lake Conway. Took little to no damage this winter, maybe because it's under the canopy of large oaks. Been there since at least 2015. 

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That Neovietchia has been struggling since last year. It had been growing in heavy shade under an old Laurel Oak. The tree fell last summer missing the palm by just inches, most of the foliage was stripped. It was stunted for awhile since it went from shade to blazing sun then a little cold damage. Hope it recovers this summer.

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Orlando, FL

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1 hour ago, Eric in Orlando said:

That Neovietchia has been struggling since last year. It had been growing in heavy shade under an old Laurel Oak. The tree fell last summer missing the palm by just inches, most of the foliage was stripped. It was stunted for awhile since it went from shade to blazing sun then a little cold damage. Hope it recovers this summer.

It looked like a few big oak trees fell recently and damaged things.  Its in a very exposed spot and beat up yet still going strong.  Maybe more hardy than "distinctly tropical" after all.  The oak density was not as heavy as i thought it would need to be either for effective canopy.  After that visit i need new knees and hips!  Do you have a plant list for the garden, not just the palms but the other trees? I took photos and the names are too blurry (shaky hands i guess🤷‍♂️)

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Been busy for a while but always looking around... Spotted this royal and coconut off the I-4 Colonial interchange in downtown Orlando. 

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6 hours ago, Borderline Tropical said:

Been busy for a while but always looking around... Spotted this royal and coconut off the I-4 Colonial interchange in downtown Orlando. 

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Dang I would love to be able to grow royals and coconuts. I need to convince my family to move about 125 miles south 

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A Veitchia arecina poking above the roofline of a house on the southside of Lake Concord near downtown Orlando. This is the same house in the above post that has a large royal and coconut visible from the I-4 ramp at I-4 and Hyw 50/Colonial Dr.

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Orlando, FL

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9 hours ago, Eric in Orlando said:

A Veitchia arecina poking above the roofline of a house on the southside of Lake Concord near downtown Orlando. This is the same house in the above post that has a large royal and coconut visible from the I-4 ramp at I-4 and Hyw 50/Colonial Dr.

Nice find!  I'm familiar with the coconut and Roystonea regia.  The street view from the ramp has a fairly clear image of them in 2021:

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Lakeland, FL

USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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On 7/19/2023 at 7:01 PM, kinzyjr said:

Nice find!  I'm familiar with the coconut and Roystonea regia.  The street view from the ramp has a fairly clear image of them in 2021:

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That whole area on the south and east side of Lake Concord had commercial pineapple fields in the late 1880s, wiped out in the great freeze of 1894-95.

Theres a house on the north side of the lake with a planting of tall Royals in the front.

 

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Orlando, FL

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I hope to be a thread in the future. I have hundreds of palms but the most stand out are bottles and 3 royals. Hundreds of areca’s, a few bismarcks, coconuts both dwarf from box store and home grown from Jamaican talls, a dozen, Livistona decipiens, .and several others. 

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I live in Orlando, close to Leu Gardens, and the microclimate here is borderline zone 10a. I thought I’d post some pics of my palms which include Satakentia, Cocos Nucifera, Kentiopsis Oliviformis, Wodyetia, Copernicia Falleansis, Archontophoenix Cunninghamiana, Livistonia Chinesa, Phoenix Robellini and Serenoa Repens.

The coconut, Satakentia and Cunninghamiana are the most borderline of the palms in my garden. The Cunninghamiana took a hit during the freeze in 2018, after I’d planted them in 2017. I didn’t know what to do, which is how I discovered Palmtalk after researching online and learned about pulling their spears and spraying with liquid copper. I didn’t think they were going to make it, their growth stalled completely for about nine months, but it worked and they pushed out new spears in the fall of that year!  Since then they’ve grown like weeds and I think they are a very underrated palm for central Florida. They are pretty cold tolerant once they get some size. I also included a pic of my Alcantrea Imperialis Julietta. It’s not a palm but a pretty nice specimen!

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On 9/4/2023 at 10:32 PM, Midnight Gardener said:

I live in Orlando, close to Leu Gardens, and the microclimate here is borderline zone 10a. I thought I’d post some pics of my palms which include Satakentia, Cocos Nucifera, Kentiopsis Oliviformis, Wodyetia, Copernicia Falleansis, Archontophoenix Cunninghamiana, Livistonia Chinesa, Phoenix Robellini and Serenoa Repens.

The coconut, Satakentia and Cunninghamiana are the most borderline of the palms in my garden. The Cunninghamiana took a hit during the freeze in 2018, after I’d planted them in 2017. I didn’t know what to do, which is how I discovered Palmtalk after researching online and learned about pulling their spears and spraying with liquid copper. I didn’t think they were going to make it, their growth stalled completely for about nine months, but it worked and they pushed out new spears in the fall of that year!  Since then they’ve grown like weeds and I think they are a very underrated palm for central Florida. They are pretty cold tolerant once they get some size. I also included a pic of my Alcantrea Imperialis Julietta. It’s not a palm but a pretty nice specimen!

I really like the landscaping and plant selection you have in that garden.  You've got some tender stuff, some moderately hardy stuff, and then some bulletproof stuff.  Archontophoenix seem to handle the radiational cooling fairly well, especially under canopy.  Advective cold seems to be a different story as an Archontophoenix alexandrae was my one cold casualty from Jan. 2018.  Like yours, it had a crown infection, but since the leaf damage wasn't really bad, I didn't notice until it was too late.  Glad your Archontophoenix cunninghamiana not only survived, but are now standout palms in your landscape.

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USDA Zone (2012): 9b | Sunset Zone: 26 | Record Low: 20F/-6.67C (1985, 1962) | Record Low USDA Zone: 9a | 30-Year Avg. Low: 30F | 30-year Min: 24F

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I spotted this Coconut last week near downtown Orlando in the Thornton Park area close to Howard Middle School.

Eric

Orlando, FL

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On 9/5/2023 at 11:08 PM, kinzyjr said:

I really like the landscaping and plant selection you have in that garden.  You've got some tender stuff, some moderately hardy stuff, and then some bulletproof stuff.  Archontophoenix seem to handle the radiational cooling fairly well, especially under canopy.  Advective cold seems to be a different story as an Archontophoenix alexandrae was my one cold casualty from Jan. 2018.  Like yours, it had a crown infection, but since the leaf damage wasn't really bad, I didn't notice until it was too late.  Glad your Archontophoenix cunninghamiana not only survived, but are now standout palms in your landscape.

Thanks Kinzyjr!

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On 9/4/2023 at 10:32 PM, Midnight Gardener said:

I live in Orlando, close to Leu Gardens, and the microclimate here is borderline zone 10a. I thought I’d post some pics of my palms which include Satakentia, Cocos Nucifera, Kentiopsis Oliviformis, Wodyetia, Copernicia Falleansis, Archontophoenix Cunninghamiana, Livistonia Chinesa, Phoenix Robellini and Serenoa Repens.

The coconut, Satakentia and Cunninghamiana are the most borderline of the palms in my garden. The Cunninghamiana took a hit during the freeze in 2018, after I’d planted them in 2017. I didn’t know what to do, which is how I discovered Palmtalk after researching online and learned about pulling their spears and spraying with liquid copper. I didn’t think they were going to make it, their growth stalled completely for about nine months, but it worked and they pushed out new spears in the fall of that year!  Since then they’ve grown like weeds and I think they are a very underrated palm for central Florida. They are pretty cold tolerant once they get some size. I also included a pic of my Alcantrea Imperialis Julietta. It’s not a palm but a pretty nice specimen!

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Gorgeous and so lush. I love how you make a robellini look so tropical. 

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On 9/6/2023 at 8:31 AM, Eric in Orlando said:

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Great! I'm seeing a lot more this size and a little smaller around town. Would love to see these grow for 5 more years to see some great coconuts around Orlando. One at corner of conway and Judge now is growing over the wall. A few more heading north are visible from Conway Rd. 

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