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7 hours ago, kinzyjr said:

A balmy 96F in the shade today and 98F-99F on the sensors in full sun.  The NWS has had my location pegged at 60% chance of rain the last two days and we've barely had clouds.

Yes “balmy” 😂 Stay cool this weekend, its supposed to get worse. 

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Was expecting a morning in the neg 2 or 3 zone yesterday morning (forecast 2C) but a slight breeze that wasn’t forecast kicked in around midnight and slowed the temp descent right down. So we ended up with a 1.3C min which was well within the bounds of the palms and plants I grow. Gnowangerup about 130km inland went down to minus 3C.

Lastnight was almost a carbon copy (forecast 4C) only the breeze started earlier holding temps around 5C at midnight, but just before sun up the breeze stopped and the temp hit 1.2C before the sun came up and the breeze started again. So we dodged two bullets in a row. The high is moving east now with a cold front moving in so mins will rise in the short term.

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Millbrook, "Kinjarling" Noongar word meaning "Place of Rain", Rainbow Coast, Western Australia 35S. Warm temperate. Csb Koeppen Climate classification. Cool nights all year round.

 

 

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Toasty 109 at 7:35PM after a high of 116 at the local airport here in Chandler.. Station closest to the house hit 120f for about an hour around 3:30 this afternoon. Several other neighborhood stations also topped 120F at some point between 3 and 5PM also.

Stayin' HOT until ........  Note the overnight lows at/ above 87F forecast here until.....  😬  Any relief?,   in the form of rain??  🤷‍♂️


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Phoenix managed to hit the magic 118F at the airport earlier. Probably do in all over again tomorrow.  Come Monday, they will break the record for back to back days above 110..  Stayin hot, so we'll have to see how many extra days are tacked onto this years' record.

They will also shatter the # of back to back overnight lows above 90..

Looking around earlier, while toasty around town,  at least we did not approach the final #'s for the day in both Bullhead and Havasu.. 


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Heading for a bright and sunny top of 20c today. A beautiful morning at the beach, too cool for a swim,at least for me but not too bad fir a paddle.

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Trying to reconcile the "feel like" temperature experienced throughout the southeast, Florida and Texas compared to the high temperatures experienced in places like Furnace Creek. We experience numerous dewpoints in the mid 80s plus. One example here in Florida at 9:14 AM CST in the Florida panhandle at a place called Fountain (LA/Lower Alabama) is a temperature of 90.2°F with a dewpoint of 86.5°F and a humidity of 89% for a feel like temperature of 121.9°F.

As the day proceeds, these dewpoints remain relatively steady, while the temperature goes up many times, particularly in the Florida panhandle to 100°F-105°F yielding feel like temperatures in the 140°F-160°F range. At the same time, people flock to Furnace Creek to experience what may be close to the all-time high of 134°F but with a dewpoint that provides a feel like temperature of 115°F. Why are not these people flocking to the Bayou in Louisiana, south Texas or even Florida, where they can experience the joy of a feel like of 160°F?

 

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105F w/ a 60deg Dew point at 10:29AM ..on the way to 115-117F, unless the area of thicker Cirrus overhead atm sticks around for a few more hours, thus cutting down on insolation. Extra moisture in the air may also shave off a deg or two.

Another morning, another record warm low for PHX.. Anticipate several more to come.

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Interesting things on the COD satellite this morning.. 

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Most obvious feature is the first large MCCs of the season rolling west across the Gulf and Baja Norte overnight. Associated moisture could bring some buildups / widely scattered showers to the mountains between Riverside and San Quintin, BCN. / extra humidity and cloud candy to S. Cal sometime later today / this evening.  Always interesting how these take on a " decayed Tropical system " look as they proceed westward from Sonora..  If only the Gulf were wide enough to allow for some tropical-esque development as these cross..

New storms just starting to build over the Sierra Madre in Chihuahua and Durango. S. AZ may be cut off from activity ..widespread activity at least  today.

MCCs following the western edge of it today could be the first sign  of the 4c Ridge getting nudged back to the north east for the start of the week, opening the door for more / better moisture to settle in over at least central and a wider area of S. AZ.

Some hints of storm chances locally tomorrow and Tuesday evenings, but, i'll believe it when i see it..  20% is nothing to get excited about, esp. as hot as it is which tends to eat any storms that try to descend off the mountains as they try to move west / southwest.



..At least the Gulf is about where it needs to be SST - wise.. 

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Looks good, but won't matter if all that moisture stays locked up well to our south,  or keeps getting shunted off to the west before it can surge north and start building a deep pool over a wider area of the state.

...Time is a' tickin'



 

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13 hours ago, bubba said:

Trying to reconcile the "feel like" temperature experienced throughout the southeast, Florida and Texas compared to the high temperatures experienced in places like Furnace Creek. We experience numerous dewpoints in the mid 80s plus. One example here in Florida at 9:14 AM CST in the Florida panhandle at a place called Fountain (LA/Lower Alabama) is a temperature of 90.2°F with a dewpoint of 86.5°F and a humidity of 89% for a feel like temperature of 121.9°F.

As the day proceeds, these dewpoints remain relatively steady, while the temperature goes up many times, particularly in the Florida panhandle to 100°F-105°F yielding feel like temperatures in the 140°F-160°F range. At the same time, people flock to Furnace Creek to experience what may be close to the all-time high of 134°F but with a dewpoint that provides a feel like temperature of 115°F. Why are not these people flocking to the Bayou in Louisiana, south Texas or even Florida, where they can experience the joy of a feel like of 160°F?

 

I am not a fan of the “feels like” temperature at all. I have experienced 115+ in AZ many times and it feels nothing like 96 and humid here with a “feels like” of 115+. The two sensations are not equivalent.  There is no doubt to me that the true high temps of the desert feel hotter. That being said, humidity sucks, dew points of 80+ that we get here make for soaking wet shirts all the time while spending more than a few minutes outside, at least for guys like me that sweat a lot. So humidity is uncomfortable, but I never understood the notion that it feels equivalent to a hotter temp. 

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Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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95f at 2000ft above the ground and on the ground the temperature is currently 106f and still climbing.

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High of 25.8°C today. Last couple of days about the same (26/27°C). We had a couple of thunderstorms last weekend which was good. Now we're back with very pleasant dry summer weather. Night time lows are still pretty high considering the day time highs. This morning we had a low of 19.4°C under clear blue skies! ☀️🌴:greenthumb:

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111F at 12:53PM,  on the way to 114-116 later. 

Another morning, another record low for Phoenix.. 1 deg shy of the all-time record..  Many more swings at that record ahead this week..  Highs will break records too this week.

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That said, the slightest  glimmer of hope for -at least- temporary relief this evening, maybe tomorrow ..w/ the possibility of more chances later in the week / next weekend 🤞🤞

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If everything comes together as suggested by a majority of the models today,  i'd anticipate dusty breezes -at the very least, and some sprinkles passing through later.  

If storms that form to the southeast or in the higher terrain to our east are strong enough to survive the trip north or west out of the mountains, maybe we see a light shower / a quick light show, at least on this side of town.. 

May not be much, but,  i myself ...will take  -anything-  we can get..

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5 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:


 i'd anticipate dusty breezes -at the very least, and some sprinkles passing through later.  
 

I would like to report the first dust storm of the summer here. Otherwise still dry, and hot.

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3 minutes ago, Palm Sundae said:

I would like to report the first dust storm of the summer here. Otherwise still dry, and hot.

Yep, can see it rising on the horizon to the south of town.. 


There's another, much weaker gust front trying to move south from roughly the Payson area, but not looking like it will do much if anything as it reaches the valley. 

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Xerarch,

There is no question that you have far more experience with this issue than I do. Living in the western areas that you have for likely the far greater time than Corpus Christi certainly gives you background that I do not have. 
 

My experience with the SW desert heat is not gigantic but I have experienced 115-120F on golf courses where the staff thought we were nuts teeing off at Noon. We had the course to ourselves in numerous venues over the years in PS, Phoenix and Vegas (summer play for locals/off the course by 10AM). My experience was that this dry heat was far more tolerable than what I am used to. The lack of perspiration that you mentioned may have been the key component, but the feeling of heat was no more oppressive to me than a standard South Florida afternoon in the high 90's. Obviously, I am doing that now and it is incredibly oppressive.

You have the experience and my guess is that the constant and repetitive experience of the desert southwestern heat gives one a different perspective. In essence, my experience is brief and somewhat like dipping your toe into it, and then departing. I can remember getting out of a pool in the evening at a friends house on Camelback Mountain, where the thermometer read 100F and actually feeling a chill.

At the end of the day, I respect your opinion as someone with far greater experience. That stated, dew point does have a multiplying effect upon temperature that cannot be denied. Wandering around on Weather Underground during this summer heat was an eye opener. South Louisiana, the RGV and interior Florida experience shocking "feel like" temperatures that far exceed the high temperatures of the southwestern desert. I guess the grass is always greener!

 

 

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1 hour ago, bubba said:

Xerarch,

There is no question that you have far more experience with this issue than I do. Living in the western areas that you have for likely the far greater time than Corpus Christi certainly gives you background that I do not have. 
 

My experience with the SW desert heat is not gigantic but I have experienced 115-120F on golf courses where the staff thought we were nuts teeing off at Noon. We had the course to ourselves in numerous venues over the years in PS, Phoenix and Vegas (summer play for locals/off the course by 10AM). My experience was that this dry heat was far more tolerable than what I am used to. The lack of perspiration that you mentioned may have been the key component, but the feeling of heat was no more oppressive to me than a standard South Florida afternoon in the high 90's. Obviously, I am doing that now and it is incredibly oppressive.

You have the experience and my guess is that the constant and repetitive experience of the desert southwestern heat gives one a different perspective. In essence, my experience is brief and somewhat like dipping your toe into it, and then departing. I can remember getting out of a pool in the evening at a friends house on Camelback Mountain, where the thermometer read 100F and actually feeling a chill.

At the end of the day, I respect your opinion as someone with far greater experience. That stated, dew point does have a multiplying effect upon temperature that cannot be denied. Wandering around on Weather Underground during this summer heat was an eye opener. South Louisiana, the RGV and interior Florida experience shocking "feel like" temperatures that far exceed the high temperatures of the southwestern desert. I guess the grass is always greener!

 

 

I think individual perception has a lot to do with it. I would totally agree that lack of humidity makes hotter temps more tolerable,  for example 90 degrees in the arid west isn’t bad for a round of golf or a little hike. Like I say, humidity makes things uncomfortable, but I wouldn’t characterize it as feeling hotter, just makes it feel gross. Also I understand that impeding the body’s ability to have sweat evaporate due to already saturated air has a real effect on the cooling effectiveness from sweat. All in all I prefer an arid climate, but I definitely feel like summer temps here are not as hot as AZ (well in truth they really aren’t). The other day on a quite hot and sunny day by local standards my wife and I got into our vehicle after having been in a movie theater for a couple hours.  We buckled up like normal with no additional thought to it. I turned to her and asked if she remembered how much different that aspect of life was in Phoenix. Oh yes, she remembered, you can’t just get into your car and buckle up nice and easy. That little metal piece on the buckle is soooo incredibly hot, if will actually damage your skin if you aren’t careful, plus have to be extra careful with small children getting into a hot car in summer. 🥵

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Corpus Christi, TX, near salt water, zone 9b/10a! Except when it isn't and everything gets nuked.

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40 minutes ago, Xerarch said:

you can’t just get into your car and buckle up nice and easy. That little metal piece on the buckle is soooo incredibly hot, if will actually damage your skin if you aren’t careful, plus have to be extra careful with small children getting into a hot car in summer.

This is 100% ...x's 10.. and no comparison.. Even handling garden tools -kept in the shade- this time of year can burn skin.. Run a hose laying in the Sun? at least for the first couple mins ( Until the water in it has escaped?  Same thing.. Great if you want to kill your plants though, haha..

Been numerous news stories the last 2 weeks outlining how people ...and pets... can end up getting gnarly, 3rd deg. burns from walking barefoot / falling onto  paved / concrete surfaces, etc..

The car example is no joke either.. Live or work somewhere  where you driveway / parking spot isn't covered?  Better have sun shades / be sitting under trees cuz, you'll quickly regret not having either to provide shade, lol.. Been there myself. 

Don't ever recall getting into my car to go grab lunch, or after a 8-10 hour day at work -outdoors- and being un-able to grasp the steering wheel, or put on my seat belt while living in FL ..or KS / OH.

The adage' of " Just drink plenty of water " if outdoors /working outdoors?  that won't save you from the effects of the heat here either..  Dare anyone to ask me how in know, haha..

..Btw..  Another record...  Today will also be day # 19  -in a row-  above 110F.  Bye Bye previous record set in:  ..1974. 

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32 C in my north facing yard today, outside Athens, Greece. Five degrees less than in Athens. We are expecting a new heatwave starting Thursday, with temperatures up to 44 C in Athens. I expect a maximum of 35 C in my yard. I'm lucky. The air is super dry though, humidity has gone down to 27%.

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So who cares about the feel like temperature we are plant people and all I worry about is how the plants feel I think they would rather have the cooler temperatures with the higher humidity! People have air conditioning in their houses and their cars and the stores they go shopping in and I don’t know about other states but here a lot of people even have their garages cooled and I’m always amazed at how many people leave their cars running when they go shopping!!

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Min of 80f/26c, max of 106f/41c with 15% humidity in Madrid today. At least for me dry heat is very tolerable, I spent pretty much the whole day in the sun and it wasn't too bad even for the 4 and a half hours it was above 100f.  What wasn't tolerable though is sitting on anything dark colored or that is made of metal, those will certainly burn you!  You definitely want to avoid touching railings for steps in the full sun ect. In the sun on grass where the air temperature is 41c it's not too bad but you can definitely feel the heat more in the city center where the heat radiating off the ground is probably a lot hotter than that.

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8 hours ago, Xerarch said:

I think individual perception has a lot to do with it. I would totally agree that lack of humidity makes hotter temps more tolerable,  for example 90 degrees in the arid west isn’t bad for a round of golf or a little hike. Like I say, humidity makes things uncomfortable, but I wouldn’t characterize it as feeling hotter, just makes it feel gross. Also I understand that impeding the body’s ability to have sweat evaporate due to already saturated air has a real effect on the cooling effectiveness from sweat. All in all I prefer an arid climate, but I definitely feel like summer temps here are not as hot as AZ (well in truth they really aren’t). The other day on a quite hot and sunny day by local standards my wife and I got into our vehicle after having been in a movie theater for a couple hours.  We buckled up like normal with no additional thought to it. I turned to her and asked if she remembered how much different that aspect of life was in Phoenix. Oh yes, she remembered, you can’t just get into your car and buckle up nice and easy. That little metal piece on the buckle is soooo incredibly hot, if will actually damage your skin if you aren’t careful, plus have to be extra careful with small children getting into a hot car in summer. 🥵

For me it always seemed pretty subjective….

Desert heart always felt to me, like sitting in an oven on broil, or having a hot hair dryer blasting directly into your face all day.   Pretty brutal in its own way.  

Florida heat is like having your clothes dipped in dilute urine, and then sitting in a sauna in them all day.   Also…..   not overly comfortable.  

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This July has been crap so far. Really poor. Like I rated June an 8/10 month, but July so far is literally a 3/10 at best here. It hasn't been a washout by any means, but daytime temperatures have been poor (2C / 5F below average) with no proper heat yet, and it has been very dull. Provisionally it has been the dullest first half of July on record for London and southeast England. It isn't going to get much better over the next 10 -14 days either, looking at the forecast models. The fires have pretty much ground to a halt now. The last major one was 5 days ago now. Dorset, Sussex and Wales have had wildfires over the past week or two though.

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I have long heard the rumours/theories that a developing El Nino, or strong El-Nino, going into summer can lead to a poor, unsettled mid-summer period in northwest Europe due to blocking and a northerly and westerly airflow, as opposed to southerly airflow. It seems that El Nino theory may have some truth behind it. June was pretty warm and sunny and if El Nino is to blame for the poor, unsettled mid-summer period, we would likely expect a warmer, drier end to summer in August too as westerly winds/MJO forces a positive AAM once again. We will have to see though. It is just frustrating to see the mid-summer period largely wasted. I suppose you can't win them all. We were exceptionally warm and dry last July.

The lack of heat has been very notable this month so far though. It is the coolest July here since 2007. On Saturday we also had a windstorm which brought my strongest July wind gusts in like 60 years. At least the grass has recovered from the rain that we have had this month. I am now on 29mm / 1.05 inches of rainfall for the month so far. Of course that brings an added blight risk for my tomatoes as well however. But again, it is far from being a wet 'washout' or anything, but on the damp side overall, especially due to the lack of sunshine too. It looks like we are going to be waiting until August for a decent spell of weather now i.e. prolonged dry conditions and 30C / 85F+ temperatures. This is certainly going to be a July to forget for me here!

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The past two days have both maxed out at 24C / 75F in London. Not great for mid-summer. I certainly don't remember a mid-late July period as cool as this.

 

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100F at 8:40AM

When i said this summer Could be interesting, i did not think that might include: " Breaking the all-time record LOW  "  😬  Sorry TX AND  FL.. You Ain't got nothing on Desert Heat..


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Then again, when it is still above 100F, at close to 12:33AM, whatwouldya expect,  lol..

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Torture / sound of shattered records fest continues, but " some " relief may arrive soon with most Wx models suggesting an uptick in moisture/ storm activity across the state arriving over the weekend /next week..  Considering we've heard this many times, only to have it get pushed back at the last minute, repeatedly.. We'll see.

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17 hours ago, UK_Palms said:

This July has been crap so far. Really poor. Like I rated June an 8/10 month, but July so far is literally a 3/10 at best here. It hasn't been a washout by any means, but daytime temperatures have been poor (2C / 5F below average) with no proper heat yet, and it has been very dull. Provisionally it has been the dullest first half of July on record for London and southeast England. It isn't going to get much better over the next 10 -14 days either, looking at the forecast models. The fires have pretty much ground to a halt now. The last major one was 5 days ago now. Dorset, Sussex and Wales have had wildfires over the past week or two though.

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I have long heard the rumours/theories that a developing El Nino, or strong El-Nino, going into summer can lead to a poor, unsettled mid-summer period in northwest Europe due to blocking and a northerly and westerly airflow, as opposed to southerly airflow. It seems that El Nino theory may have some truth behind it. June was pretty warm and sunny and if El Nino is to blame for the poor, unsettled mid-summer period, we would likely expect a warmer, drier end to summer in August too as westerly winds/MJO forces a positive AAM once again. We will have to see though. It is just frustrating to see the mid-summer period largely wasted. I suppose you can't win them all. We were exceptionally warm and dry last July.

The lack of heat has been very notable this month so far though. It is the coolest July here since 2007. On Saturday we also had a windstorm which brought my strongest July wind gusts in like 60 years. At least the grass has recovered from the rain that we have had this month. I am now on 29mm / 1.05 inches of rainfall for the month so far. Of course that brings an added blight risk for my tomatoes as well however. But again, it is far from being a wet 'washout' or anything, but on the damp side overall, especially due to the lack of sunshine too. It looks like we are going to be waiting until August for a decent spell of weather now i.e. prolonged dry conditions and 30C / 85F+ temperatures. This is certainly going to be a July to forget for me here!

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The past two days have both maxed out at 24C / 75F in London. Not great for mid-summer. I certainly don't remember a mid-late July period as cool as this.

 

The grass at London Heathrow is slowly recovering.

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I just drove from North Scottsdale AZ where it's 119F, to 32nd street and Camelback wherre it's 121F.  The freeway inbetween was 123F.  This is not even good for the cactus!!!

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13 minutes ago, GeneAZ said:

I just drove from North Scottsdale AZ where it's 119F, to 32nd street and Camelback wherre it's 121F.  The freeway inbetween was 123F.  This is not even good for the cactus!!!

Only 104F today, but it has been above 100 almost every day since June, with no rain, and there is no relief in sight.

Any cactus that doesn't produce its own shade is dying.

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1 hour ago, amh said:

Only 104F today, but it has been above 100 almost every day since June, with no rain, and there is no relief in sight.

Any cactus that doesn't produce its own shade is dying.

Wow... that is really hot and dry!

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1 hour ago, GeneAZ said:

I just drove from North Scottsdale AZ where it's 119F, to 32nd street and Camelback wherre it's 121F.  The freeway inbetween was 123F.  This is not even good for the cactus!!!


Watching the #'s over the last couple hours, i'd believe it..  While we're used to " heat " ..Easy to tell this time around is different..

Like in 2020, ( ..maybe '19?  )  I fully anticipate stories regarding an uptick in Urban / Suburban Saguaro mortality events, directly related to heat exposure, to crop up in the news by Fall..
 

1 hour ago, amh said:

Only 104F today, but it has been above 100 almost every day since June, with no rain, and there is no relief in sight.

Any cactus that doesn't produce its own shade is dying.

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 You'd be surprised how awful Opuntia  ( and some other Cacti.. ) can look under high / long duration heat, then snap out of it ..and look as though nothing happened by Fall..  Since there is no irrigation installed, all the ones i planted at the old house go through this each year..  Have a bench of potted stuff here that sits in afternoon sun i rarely water.. Not looking so good atm but should be fine by October ..unless it stays this hot until then.

Here at least, watering ..even planted stuff.. when it is this hot is a guaranteed death sentence. All but a few  things i have are left completely dry until nights are back below 75F.




Some #'s from the past hour or so..

Can tell it is brutally hot when neighborhood Wx stations in sparsely populated areas of town are on par ..or exceeding.. stations in more developed areas.


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 Pretty hot in Tucson too...

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...until some storms prowling the area rolled in..
 
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Watching the #'s over the last couple hours, i'd believe it..  While we're used to " heat " ..Easy to tell this time around is different..

Like in 2020, ( ..maybe '19?  )  I fully anticipate stories regarding an uptick in Urban / Suburban Saguaro mortality events, directly related to heat exposure, to crop up in the news by Fall..
 

 You'd be surprised how awful Opuntia  ( and some other Cacti.. ) can look under high / long duration heat, then snap out of it ..and look as though nothing happened by Fall..  Since there is no irrigation installed, all the ones i planted at the old house go through this each year..  Have a bench of potted stuff here that sits in afternoon sun i rarely water.. Not looking so good atm but should be fine by October ..unless it stays this hot until then.

Here at least, watering ..even planted stuff.. when it is this hot is a guaranteed death sentence. All but a few  things i have are left completely dry until nights are back below 75F.




Some #'s from the past hour or so..

Can tell it is brutally hot when neighborhood Wx stations in sparsely populated areas of town are on par ..or exceeding.. stations in more developed areas.


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 Pretty hot in Tucson too...

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...until some storms prowling the area rolled in..
 
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A couple stark contrasts across the state:

Bullhead City / Havasu:

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Borderlands / Central S.E. AZ:

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30 minutes ago, Silas_Sancona said:

You'd be surprised how awful Opuntia  ( and some other Cacti.. ) can look under high / long duration heat, then snap out of it ..and look as though nothing happened by Fall..  Since there is no irrigation installed, all the ones i planted at the old house go through this each year..  Have a bench of potted stuff here that sits in afternoon sun i rarely water.. Not looking so good atm but should be fine by October ..unless it stays this hot until then.

Here at least, watering ..even planted stuff.. when it is this hot is a guaranteed death sentence. All but a few  things i have are left completely dry until nights are back below 75F.

Most of the opuntias will survive, or return from the roots, but some of these wont make it to fall.

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4 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

 You'd be surprised how awful Opuntia  ( and some other Cacti.. ) can look under high / long duration heat, then snap out of it ..and look as though nothing happened by Fall.. 

Here at least, watering ..even planted stuff.. when it is this hot is a guaranteed death sentence
 

Interesting. I have a good variety of cactus. The native cylindropuntia are basically care free even in this weather. Everything else I hand water once/twice a month to keep them looking good. That includes an established Lophocereus schottii. The potted stuff is getting some water every other day in this heat - they are small. Mostly it is the smaller stuff that needs the attention in general. Did the same in 2020 and only lost a couple very small plants that burned.

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4 minutes ago, Palm Sundae said:

Interesting. I have a good variety of cactus. The native cylindropuntia are basically care free even in this weather. Everything else I hand water once/twice a month to keep them looking good. That includes an established Lophocereus schottii. The potted stuff is getting some water every other day in this heat - they are small. Mostly it is the smaller stuff that needs the attention in general. Did the same in 2020 and only lost a couple very small plants that burned.

Cylindropuntia  and Opuntia seem to handle a a splash or two of water when nights are consistently over 78F or, at least until it starts raining. My Mam a Grahams, M. longimamma, and Coryphantha  also seem to be ok with that..

Echinocereus?  Specific ones like E. dasyacanthus,  engelmannii, scheeri, and  rigidissimus rubispinus  esp,  Learned the hard way,  a splash once a month when it is this hot seems to be tolerated.. Anything more? ..they start rotting.  Echinopsis, seem to fare about 90/10.  Fine w/ a little extra water this time of year, but, i've had a few rot from watering this time of year also.

 

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109F on the way to the upper 100 - teens..  117F is forecast but we'll see on which side of it we end up..  Sky Harbor / Downtown is forecast for 119 again today, but has an approx: 20-35% chance of reaching the dreaded 120F threshold..  We'll see what happens..

For now, ..emphasizing that..   it looks like tomorrow may be the last day ..of the " extreme " extreme heat, ..Not cooling off much, but could be back below 115F by Sunday.  110F+ heat will continue beyond that though..

A saving grace / some temporary relief in the evenings may come in the form of extra clouds / showers / storms  as moisture looks to increase across the state starting tonight (  Far Eastern / South / Southeastern AZ. ) 

While they aren't great, there are at least ~some~ chances for rain in the local forecast starting Sunday night..  We'll see..

  As is usual during Monsoon Season, rain chances will ebb and flow across the state next week ..or is how things seem to be trending atm.. 

This uptick in Monsoon activity may ..Emphasis on MAY   finally crack the foundation on our unrelenting 110+F streak by next Saturday.. While the currently suggested 109 on that day doesn't sound like much of a break, it would be better than 114-118F.  Watching that closely..  Bigger relief from this extreme heat may be felt in Tucson and points south by that time too.. 

Current forecasts for Chandler, Tucson, and Sonoita:


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Looking further south, uptick in precip chances across Sonora / S. Baja are looking better too..  With that said, Something interesting may be influencing the forecast for Todo Santos, esp. toward next weekend / just beyond that..  🤔 ...Something to watch,  ...but not dive into  -yet-.

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Weather is still the same though I have noticed the skies are getting cloudier day by day. Today's high in my garden was 26.9°C and a low of 17.6°C this morning. A weird thing today was that it cooled down to around 22°C in the afternoon and then temperatures went up to around 27°C by the evening. (Without a thunderstorm or rain or anything) 🌥️🌴

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16 hours ago, Silas_Sancona said:

Cylindropuntia  and Opuntia seem to handle a a splash or two of water when nights are consistently over 78F or, at least until it starts raining. My Mam a Grahams, M. longimamma, and Coryphantha  also seem to be ok with that..

Echinocereus?  Specific ones like E. dasyacanthus,  engelmannii, scheeri, and  rigidissimus rubispinus  esp,  Learned the hard way,  a splash once a month when it is this hot seems to be tolerated.. Anything more? ..they start rotting.  Echinopsis, seem to fare about 90/10.  Fine w/ a little extra water this time of year, but, i've had a few rot from watering this time of year also.

 

I'm afraid my only Echinocereus are still seedlings, started this spring. Wish me luck. Have had no issue with Echinopsis, Echinocactus, Stetsonia, Austrocylindropuntia, Stenocereus Tephrocactus, Myrtillocactus geometrizans or Cereus peruvianis.

The Ferocactus pilosus never gets any water, of course. I will be sorely tempted by the end of the month if there is still no sign of rain.

 

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Same story here in Western AZ, our temp measurements actually come from Needles CA across the river. It is starting to cool off....a bit, hoping we will see some rain soon.

 

 

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